Coincidence of meteor strike and close asteroid approach at same time.

On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 14:01:14 -0400, "Robert Clark"
wrote:

I'm in the distinct minority in still thinking there is a connection between
asteroid close approaches and meteorite fireballs, like in the Russian
meteorite case and in this Spanish case.

In neither case was there any connection between meteors and large
asteroids observed near Earth. This is 100% certain, as the orbits are
known.

Dne 14.9.2014 v 16:25 Robert Clark napsal(a):
Just because we don't understand how there can be a connection between
two events does not mean there can not be one. The conclusion that the
events were connected was based on the unlikelihood of their occurring
in close proximity in time. IF it continues to happen that close flybys
are accompanied by large meteorite fireballs then that would lead to a
search for a mechanism to explain how they could be related despite
their appearing from different directions in space.


Bob Clark

If they shared the similar orbit characteristics, than they were very
probably related.

As is is very common small objects progresively desintegrates
creating debris. Many meteoroids are some debris of larger comets,
following their orbits.

If they do not share them, they were not.

--
Poutnik

On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:25:19 -0400, "Robert Clark"
wrote:

Just because we don't understand how there can be a connection between two
events does not mean there can not be one.

Sorry, but orbital dynamics is something that is extremely well
understood. You might as well claim that a meteor was caused by the
conjunction of Saturn and Venus.

The conclusion that the events
were connected was based on the unlikelihood of their occurring in close
proximity in time. IF it continues to happen that close flybys are
accompanied by large meteorite fireballs then that would lead to a search
for a mechanism to explain how they could be related despite their appearing
from different directions in space.

It does happen every time. Asteroid flybys happen several times each
year. Massive fireballs happen every few days. You are falling victim
to a type of observation bias.

On Sunday, September 14, 2014 4:30:12 PM UTC+1, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2014 10:25:19 -0400, "Robert Clark"

wrote:



Just because we don't understand how there can be a connection between two

events does not mean there can not be one.



Sorry, but orbital dynamics is something that is extremely well

understood.

Pity the world remains mired with intellectual frauds like yourself Peterson in that you represent a cult with an inability to appreciate basic orbital features such as the Earth moving through space and turning to the Sun at the same time as a function of that orbital motion, even with imaging showing this to be a 100% certainty -

http://www.terrapapers.com/wp-conten...823uranus1.jpg

Orbital dynamics actually means appreciating features of planetary motion from observations and omitting that annual surface rotation and aside from daily rotation to the Sun is incredible.

On 9/14/2014 11:30 AM, Chris L Peterson wrote:

Asteroid flybys happen several times each
year. Massive fireballs happen every few days


I witnessed a small fireball last night here in the Northeast US around
9PM or so EDT. It was headed due south. I believe it a fireball because
it had a longer duration than a typical meteor, it burned brighter, and
it appeared to move a little slower.

I just happened to step out for some air. Luck of the draw.

Enjoy!
-Steve

In sci.astro.amateur message m96dnZ2RiMm1FYHJnZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.
com, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:46:50, Stephen Paul
posted:

On 9/14/2014 11:30 AM, Chris L Peterson wrote:

Asteroid flybys happen several times each
year. Massive fireballs happen every few days


I witnessed a small fireball last night here in the Northeast US around
9PM or so EDT. It was headed due south. I believe it a fireball because
it had a longer duration than a typical meteor, it burned brighter, and
it appeared to move a little slower.

I just happened to step out for some air. Luck of the draw.

You are sure that it was not a
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_flare ?

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On Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:50:50 AM UTC-7, Dr J R Stockton wrote:
In sci.astro.amateur message m96dnZ2RiMm1FYHJnZ2dnUU7-WWdnZ2d@giganews.

com, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:46:50, Stephen Paul

posted:



On 9/14/2014 11:30 AM, Chris L Peterson wrote:



Asteroid flybys happen several times each

year. Massive fireballs happen every few days





I witnessed a small fireball last night here in the Northeast US around

9PM or so EDT. It was headed due south. I believe it a fireball because

it had a longer duration than a typical meteor, it burned brighter, and

it appeared to move a little slower.



I just happened to step out for some air. Luck of the draw.



You are sure that it was not a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_flare ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qkmrTIAKk

On 9/21/2014 10:07 PM, palsing wrote:
On Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:50:50 AM UTC-7, Dr J R Stockton wrote:

com, Fri, 19 Sep 2014 15:46:50, Stephen Paul

I witnessed a small fireball last night here in the Northeast US around

9PM or so EDT. It was headed due south. I believe it a fireball because

it had a longer duration than a typical meteor, it burned brighter, and

it appeared to move a little slower.



I just happened to step out for some air. Luck of the draw.



You are sure that it was not a

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_flare ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1qkmrTIAKk


Yeah, I thought about it being an Iridium flare later.
Probably right.

-Steve