JAXA "KAGUYA"(SELENE), the big flop and still nothing Apollo

On Jun 13, 4:58*pm, namekuseijin
wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On Jun 12, 11:19 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Alan Erskine wrote:
I never thought I'd say this, but Brad's right about the Moon's darkness -
7% albido - about as dark as asphalt or coal.
Which is odd, as a *few months back he was saying it was _highly_
reflective and made of frozen salt water.
That's when I first realized where the Nazi fixation was coming from:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welteislehre

Pat

Pat, you silly old out of context kind of guy. *Are you now admitting
that you are a certified liar? *Because your bogus statements have
clearly nailed that coffin shut.

that article could've been penned by you.

I too have suggested that our physically dark Selene/moon was once a
very icy kind of interstellar trekking orb, possibly released from
Sirius B.

~ BG

namekuseijin wrote:

that article could've been penned by you.

The key is remembering that ice is not frozen water...water is melted
ice. :-)
That was part of the dogma of the Glacial Cosmogony theory.
Some of the top Nazis were concerned that the V-2 missile might break a
hole in the ice shell around the Earth, and let in flood waters from
outside of it. Werner von Braun had to talk them out of that being a danger.
At one point in the 1930's someone was working on a rocket that was to
carry a man up to the altitude where the ice shell was supposed to be;
assuming he didn't get squashed like a bug on hitting it, he was then
supposed to parachute back to earth and report on what he had found.

Pat

On Jun 14, 4:27*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
namekuseijin wrote:

that article could've been penned by you.

The key is remembering that ice is not frozen water...water is melted
ice. :-)
That was part of the dogma of the Glacial Cosmogony theory.
Some of the top Nazis were concerned that the V-2 missile might break a
hole in the ice shell around the Earth, and let in flood waters from
outside of it. Werner von Braun had to talk them out of that being a danger.
At one point in the 1930's someone was working on a rocket that was to
carry a man up to the altitude where the ice shell was supposed to be;
assuming he didn't get squashed like a bug on hitting it, he was then
supposed to parachute back to earth and report on what he had found.

Nazis were/are clearly insane.

On Jun 14, 12:40*pm, namekuseijin wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:27*am, Pat Flannery wrote:

namekuseijin wrote:

that article could've been penned by you.

The key is remembering that ice is not frozen water...water is melted
ice. :-)
That was part of the dogma of the Glacial Cosmogony theory.
Some of the top Nazis were concerned that the V-2 missile might break a
hole in the ice shell around the Earth, and let in flood waters from
outside of it. Werner von Braun had to talk them out of that being a danger.
At one point in the 1930's someone was working on a rocket that was to
carry a man up to the altitude where the ice shell was supposed to be;
assuming he didn't get squashed like a bug on hitting it, he was then
supposed to parachute back to earth and report on what he had found.

Nazis were/are clearly insane.

Since most of them were highly educated Zionists, I'd have to agree
with that. Catholics were simply not nearly as insane, as otherwise
not anywhere as physics and science smart enough.

~ BG

namekuseijin wrote:
Nazis were/are clearly insane.


Yup...I read up on their WW II antics and it's basically impossible to
understand where they are coming from.

Pat

In article ,
namekuseijin wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:27*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
namekuseijin wrote:

that article could've been penned by you.

The key is remembering that ice is not frozen water...water is melted
ice. :-)
That was part of the dogma of the Glacial Cosmogony theory.
Some of the top Nazis were concerned that the V-2 missile might break a
hole in the ice shell around the Earth, and let in flood waters from
outside of it. Werner von Braun had to talk them out of that being a danger.
At one point in the 1930's someone was working on a rocket that was to
carry a man up to the altitude where the ice shell was supposed to be;
assuming he didn't get squashed like a bug on hitting it, he was then
supposed to parachute back to earth and report on what he had found.

Nazis were/are clearly insane.

Not necessarly. Only evil, misguided and very good organisers.

Their insistence on policies we, the rest of the world, would call pure
evil, togehter with some total weirdness in priorities was what saved
us from a long-term Nazi regime.

But that discussion belongs elsewhere. Here, we aim for the stars.

-- mrr

On Jun 14, 3:18*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
namekuseijin wrote:
Nazis were/are clearly insane.

Yup...I read up on their WW II antics and it's basically impossible to
understand where they are coming from.

Pat

It's called Zionism, and otherwise called global domination by
whatever means.

For any religion cult/cabal to pull this off, you need to get yourself
a viable puppet warlord, such as Hitler.

~ BG

Morten Reistad wrote:
Not necessarly. Only evil, misguided and very good organisers.


Not when it came to their weapons programs they weren't. They would have
several companies and individual inventors working on the same basic
thing, all going at it in different ways and in competition with each
other for funding and political favor.
Consider all the German SAMs and AAMs that not only got proposed during
the war, but actually reached prototype stage and were test-launched.
Germany badly needed SAMs to deal with the hoards of incoming Allied
bombers, but frittered away the possibility of getting one operational
till it was too late, as all the firms trying to develop one were each
working on their own concept with no cooperation with the other teams
who were also trying to make one.
Then of course, there was Dr. Zippermayer's Whirlwind AA Cannon and the
Bachem Natter disposable fighter plane to also compete with.
In the AAM field, after screwing around with different guided missile
designs, the most effective thing they could come up with was the R4M
unguided air-to-air rocket, something so simple in design that they
could have had it operational during the whole war.
Even after the war, some of that craziness got incorporated into
American weapon design programs due to Operation Paperclip. You can
trace the X-20 Dynasoar straight back to Sanger's Antipodal bomber, and
although von Braun thought the Jupiter IRBM was a "mobile missile
system", it was a complete mess to move it around to different launching
sites.

Pat