Could congress get their act together? With a real threat

On Mar 25, 11:49*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Mar 25, 4:22*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Nun Giver wrote:

No matter the 12 mile/20 kilometer exclusion zone.
That were you spend all your remaining days.

Uh, radiation DECREASES with time, you pathetic loon.

With so much radiation on site specifically in the structurally
damaged waste core storage pools theres a real danger in another
earquake, the elevated pools could collapse, releasing enough
radiation to cause evacuation of most or all of japan.....

Poppycock! *Bobbert "Chicken Little" Haller was calling for the
evacuation of most of Japan right along. *What reality is is a 12 mile
exclusion zone with practically no increase in cancer rates.

Yeah, Bobbert, the sky is falling. *We know....

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

do note the NRC called for what a 20 mile evacuation? Chernobys is 50
miles. 20 miles in japan would of necessiated parts of japans main
city to be declared a dead zone.

claims of low increased cancer rates can only be proven over many
years.

the reason why near all japan nuke plants are still shut down? japan
is full of faults and future earthquakes can damage things so much
more of japan is delared a dead zone.....

On 26/03/2013 5:02 AM, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

They aren't going to come from the Oort Cloud unless something major out
there disturbs them.


It's not as if everything is ordered and stable out there - it's an
N-body problem.

Sylvia.

On Mar 25, 9:33*pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 26/03/2013 5:02 AM, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

They aren't going to come from the Oort Cloud unless something major out
there disturbs them.

It's not as if everything is ordered and stable out there - it's an
N-body problem.

Sylvia.

when the plant first melted down japanese leadership had its head in
the sand. climing a full clean up for nearby communities in a year or
two. japan discouraged evacuating nearby villages, and put off
injecting sea water to cool reactors because the salt water would ruin
the reactors.

it didnt matter the reactors were already wrecked

In article ,
Sylvia Else wrote:

On 26/03/2013 5:02 AM, Orval Fairbairn wrote:

They aren't going to come from the Oort Cloud unless something major out
there disturbs them.


It's not as if everything is ordered and stable out there - it's an
N-body problem.

Sylvia.

True -- but it would take some major delta-V to deorbit from the Oort
Cloud at around 10 AU to less than 1 AU.

On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:22:56 AM UTC-7, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Nun Giver wrote:





No matter the 12 mile/20 kilometer exclusion zone.

That were you spend all your remaining days.





Uh, radiation DECREASES with time, you pathetic loon.





--

"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the

truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."

-- Thomas Jefferson

And the half life of some of nasties is counted in decades and then
there is the PU. So sure the exposure is going down for the time being
but that will slow.

http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS...a_0603131.html

And there is the issue of the ongoing outgoing radiation plume.
http://www.nirs.org/fukushima/crisis.htm
Now more waterborne than at the start but it's all bad.

McCall needs to go ocean fishing from his new retirement home sited by
the nuclear park.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2536775.html

Think 160 000 people no longer live were McCall retirement home
is to be sited. But he could pick up part time worker as a clean
up worker and then walk home.

Fear not McCall believes Tepco as it says all is well and the power to
pumps doesn't go off too often;-)

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=10872438

If 'we' send McCall to space he needs a month long visit to Van Allen
belts.

McCall a brand of hot canned meat.......................Trig

On Mar 25, 12:54*pm, bob haller wrote:
On Mar 25, 11:49*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:









bob haller wrote:
On Mar 25, 4:22*am, Fred J. McCall wrote:
Nun Giver wrote:

No matter the 12 mile/20 kilometer exclusion zone.
That were you spend all your remaining days.

Uh, radiation DECREASES with time, you pathetic loon.

With so much radiation on site specifically in the structurally
damaged waste core storage pools theres a real danger in another
earquake, the elevated pools could collapse, releasing enough
radiation to cause evacuation of most or all of japan.....

Poppycock! *Bobbert "Chicken Little" Haller was calling for the
evacuation of most of Japan right along. *What reality is is a 12 mile
exclusion zone with practically no increase in cancer rates.

Yeah, Bobbert, the sky is falling. *We know....

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
*only stupid."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Heinrich Heine

do note the NRC called for what a 20 mile evacuation? Chernobys is 50
miles. 20 miles in japan would of necessiated parts of japans main
city to be declared a dead zone.

claims of low increased cancer rates can only be proven over many
years.

the reason why near all japan nuke plants *are still shut down? japan
is full of faults and future earthquakes can damage things so much
more of japan is delared a dead zone.....

There are relatively failsafe thorium fueled reactor options, but that
sort of clean and really cheap energy would only damage the other
mostly oligarch dominated energy markets. Floating and mostly if not
entirely submerged reactors could have been constructed as of decades
ago.

On Mar 24, 6:21*pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 25/03/2013 5:45 AM, bob haller wrote:

Could congress get their act together? with a real threat

Its may 2013 a asteroid passes right over our country, does some minor
damage.

It wasnt detected before but tracking on the 5 mile wide asteroid
shows it will devastingly impact our world in 2020.. A likely human
life ending event.....

In the event of a definite prediction of a hit by such an object in
2020, I'd say that politicians generally would find the will to act.

In practice, it would take time to pin down the orbit of a previously
undetected object, and the likely initial prediction for 2020 would be
"perhaps". If one hypothesises that in reality the object will hit in
2020, the question then becomes one of how long it takes before the
astromers have pinned that down with sufficient certainty that congress
will not be able to take a wait-and-see approach. The concern is
obviously that by the time the certainty crosses the threshold for
congressional action, it will then be too late.

As an aside, it's going to be a long time before we can deal with
extinction-sized objects that come barrelling in from the Oort cloud,
having never previously been seen.

Sylvia.

There's more than a thousand times the number of rogue/wandering nomad
planets than stars, and perhaps at least another millionfold of killer
asteroids or even moon sized planetoids to consider. The Sirius Oort
cloud isn't going to be an empty threat.