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On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:30:20 -0500, Jeff Findley
wrote: The star trek people would of rallied around nasa to get the extra money to make enterprise space worthy. Bull. The "Star Trek people" moved on to X-files, believing that the US government stole the ability to go faster than light from aliens who crashed their UFOs in the US desert. Well, no. I don't think so. I've never considered X-Filers and Trekkies to be the same subset of society. X-Filers come out of the UFO / Conspiracy sect, which I don't think has ever really been popular among Trekkies, who by and large are more science-minded. Brian |
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On Mar 4, 10:29*pm, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:30:20 -0500, Jeff Findley wrote: The star trek people would of rallied around nasa to get the extra money to make enterprise space worthy. Bull. *The "Star Trek people" moved on to X-files, believing that the US government stole the ability to go faster than light from aliens who crashed their UFOs in the US desert. Well, no. I don't think so. I've never considered X-Filers and Trekkies to be the same subset of society. X-Filers come out of the UFO / Conspiracy sect, which I don't think has ever really been popular among Trekkies, who by and large are more science-minded. Brian I was involved in start trek fan clubs etc at the time. We mourned the fact enterprise would never fly in space..... Nasa didnt want to be connected to star trek for some reason but sometime later nasa hired nichelle nichols as a nasa spokeperson. It turned her into a nasa preacher. and no fun at conventions I hope a coming vehicle is named enterprise. |
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In article , bthorn64
@suddenlink.net says... On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 11:41:49 -0500, Jeff Findley wrote: And finally, Challenger would be replaced by a new orbiter assembled from the structural spares that the program had acquired. What more could anyone reasonably expect? We could expect a Shuttle replacement on the horizon. And that's exactly what President Reagan said he would do. He announced the Orient Express one week after Challenger. Ah yes, the hypersonic air breather dream. Any year now. We're getting close. We promise that NASP will be able to perform efficient hypersonic cruise *and* provide extremely high levels of thrust for an orbital launch vehicle! Whenever anyone makes an obviously absurd claim like this, I'm reminded of this Saturday Night Live skit, specifically, this quote: "Hey, hey, hey! Calm down you two. New Shimmer is a floor wax and a dessert topping! Here, I'll spray some on your mop, and some on your butterscotch pudding..." http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...oor-wax/n8625/ I have no idea what Bob is going on about this time. Does anyone ever? Jeff -- "the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer |
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"bob haller" wrote in message
... On Mar 4, 10:29 pm, Brian Thorn wrote: On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:30:20 -0500, Jeff Findley wrote: The star trek people would of rallied around nasa to get the extra money to make enterprise space worthy. Bull. The "Star Trek people" moved on to X-files, believing that the US government stole the ability to go faster than light from aliens who crashed their UFOs in the US desert. Well, no. I don't think so. I've never considered X-Filers and Trekkies to be the same subset of society. X-Filers come out of the UFO / Conspiracy sect, which I don't think has ever really been popular among Trekkies, who by and large are more science-minded. Brian I was involved in start trek fan clubs etc at the time. We mourned the fact enterprise would never fly in space..... But what did you do about it other than sit in your parents' basement and whine about how someone should do something? Nasa didnt want to be connected to star trek for some reason but sometime later nasa hired nichelle nichols as a nasa spokeperson. It turned her into a nasa preacher. and no fun at conventions So, she gets hired in 1977, before the decision was made, is no longer "fun at conventions" and that's a problem/ Seriously, there's NO pleasing you. I hope a coming vehicle is named enterprise. You're in luck. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VSS_Enterprise -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:42:52 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote: I was involved in start trek fan clubs etc at the time. We mourned the fact enterprise would never fly in space..... Nasa didnt want to be connected to star trek for some reason Well, they didn't want OV-101 named Enterprise, that much is certain. They had planned to have her named Constitution for the 200th Anniversary of the U.S. Constitution. But once the decision was decreed by President Ford, they seemed to embrace Star Trek. Note NASA's participation in 1979's "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" (providing the Voyager mockup and imagery of Jupiter for the Enterprise's flyby.) but sometime later nasa hired nichelle nichols as a nasa spokeperson. "Sometime later" than what? Nichols was among the Star Trek cast to attend the unveiling of Enterprise in 1976 (although William Shatner was conspicuously absent), It was then that she became involved in recruiting women into the NASA astronaut corps. She has often said she felt responsible for Judith Resnik (who died on Challenger) becoming an astronaut. Brian |
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On Mar 5, 6:31*pm, Brian Thorn wrote:
On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:42:52 -0800 (PST), bob haller wrote: I was involved in start trek fan clubs etc at the time. We mourned the fact enterprise would never fly in space..... Nasa didnt want to be connected to star trek for some reason Well, they didn't want OV-101 named Enterprise, that much is certain. They had planned to have her named Constitution for the 200th Anniversary of the U.S. Constitution. But once the decision was decreed by President Ford, they seemed to embrace Star Trek. Note NASA's participation in 1979's "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" (providing the Voyager mockup and imagery of Jupiter for the Enterprise's flyby.) but sometime later nasa hired nichelle nichols as a nasa spokeperson. "Sometime later" than what? Nichols was among the Star Trek cast to attend the unveiling of Enterprise in 1976 (although William Shatner was conspicuously absent), It was then that she became involved in recruiting women into the NASA astronaut corps. She has often said she felt responsible for Judith Resnik (who died on Challenger) becoming an astronaut. Brian nichols was not hired by nasa as a spokesperson to many years later.... |
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"bob haller" wrote in message ... "Sometime later" than what? Nichols was among the Star Trek cast to attend the unveiling of Enterprise in 1976 (although William Shatner was conspicuously absent), It was then that she became involved in recruiting women into the NASA astronaut corps. She has often said she felt responsible for Judith Resnik (who died on Challenger) becoming an astronaut. Brian nichols was not hired by nasa as a spokesperson to many years later.... You may want to tell NASA they have their information wrong then since you seem to know better. Seriously Bob, DO YOUR RESEARCH. -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net |
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On Mar 7, 7:44*am, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote: "bob haller" *wrote in message .... "Sometime later" than what? Nichols was among the Star Trek cast to attend the unveiling of Enterprise in 1976 (although William Shatner was conspicuously absent), It was then that she became involved in recruiting women into the NASA astronaut corps. She has often said she felt responsible for Judith Resnik (who died on Challenger) becoming an astronaut. Brian nichols was not hired by nasa as a spokesperson to many years later.... You may want to tell NASA they have their information wrong then since you seem to know better. Seriously Bob, DO YOUR RESEARCH. -- Greg D. Moore * * * * * * * * *http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses.http://www.quicr.net From my memory nichols involvement in NASA came later.... |
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On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:58:21 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote: From my memory nichols involvement in NASA came later.... Your memory is faulty. Nichols became involved with NASA in 1976. It is well documented that she was a member of the committee tasked with diversifying the astronaut corps. She helped select female astronauts Sally Ride and Judy Resnik, and black astronauts Guion Bluford and Ron McNair, who were all named to the astronaut corps in January 1978. Resnik and McNair died on STS-51L Challenger. Brian |
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On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 13:58:21 -0800 (PST), bob haller
wrote: From my memory nichols involvement in NASA came later.... http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/ABSTRACTS/GPN-2004-00017.html NASA's bio of Nichols and description of her work for them is dated March, 1977. Brian |
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