The push for men on Mars. . .What's really going on here?

In article ,
ospam (Jmpngtiger) wrote:

Yes, let's continue to look through our telescopes and dream. Let's make it
a
dream for our decendants 200 years from now. It's a safe dream. We never
have
to commit.

Like Star Trek. We can enjoy it without ever taking the risk.

That's sad.

And we're supposed to be such a learned group.



These are the best remarks I've read on the subject here in SAA. And
you're right- it is very sad.

".....What's the rush..."

Actually, we haven't been rushing into anything since we rushed back
from
the Moon. Yes, we have sent our robotic explorers and well we should.
But Man,as a species, did not just arrive in 21st Century America.
We are Americans because,our ancestors,
Fathers,Mothers,Brothers,Sisters,
Aunts & Uncles decided they wanted a better life.

Just as all of our fellow siblings have done across eons.

We explore.

Why is it that we go on vacations to distant lands when they have
already been
discovered? Volcanoes & Ice fields,Architecture & Art have been seen &
photographed.

Yet we still go to see them...we still go to visit history.

All of us explore.

That's why we go, it's in our genes. But not everyone understands
this.

But time & history have taught us that if a nation, any nation decides
not to take up a challenge,whether to explore space or undertake any
new national challenge, that nation suffers.

If Americans don't go back to the Moon, others will and that's fine
but our nation will not benefit in the growth, the new knowledge, the
new materials & techniques, the new industries and jobs that such a
challenge will bestow.

That's why we must go.

".....What's the rush..."

Actually, we haven't been rushing into anything since we rushed back
from
the Moon. Yes, we have sent our robotic explorers and well we should.
But Man,as a species, did not just arrive in 21st Century America.
We are Americans because,our ancestors,
Fathers,Mothers,Brothers,Sisters,
Aunts & Uncles decided they wanted a better life.

Just as all of our fellow siblings have done across eons.

We explore.

Why is it that we go on vacations to distant lands when they have
already been
discovered? Volcanoes & Ice fields,Architecture & Art have been seen &
photographed.

Yet we still go to see them...we still go to visit history.

All of us explore.

That's why we go, it's in our genes. But not everyone understands
this.

But time & history have taught us that if a nation, any nation decides
not to take up a challenge,whether to explore space or undertake any
new national challenge, that nation suffers.

If Americans don't go back to the Moon, others will and that's fine
but our nation will not benefit in the growth, the new knowledge, the
new materials & techniques, the new industries and jobs that such a
challenge will bestow.

That's why we must go.

".....What's the rush..."

Actually, we haven't been rushing into anything since we rushed back
from
the Moon. Yes, we have sent our robotic explorers and well we should.
But Man,as a species, did not just arrive in 21st Century America.
We are Americans because,our ancestors,
Fathers,Mothers,Brothers,Sisters,
Aunts & Uncles decided they wanted a better life.

Just as all of our fellow siblings have done across eons.

We explore.

Why is it that we go on vacations to distant lands when they have
already been
discovered? Volcanoes & Ice fields,Architecture & Art have been seen &
photographed.

Yet we still go to see them...we still go to visit history.

All of us explore.

That's why we go, it's in our genes. But not everyone understands
this.

But time & history have taught us that if a nation, any nation decides
not to take up a challenge,whether to explore space or undertake any
new national challenge, that nation suffers.

If Americans don't go back to the Moon, others will and that's fine
but our nation will not benefit in the growth, the new knowledge, the
new materials & techniques, the new industries and jobs that such a
challenge will bestow.

That's why we must go.

".....What's the rush..."

Actually, we haven't been rushing into anything since we rushed back
from
the Moon. Yes, we have sent our robotic explorers and well we should.
But Man,as a species, did not just arrive in 21st Century America.
We are Americans because,our ancestors,
Fathers,Mothers,Brothers,Sisters,
Aunts & Uncles decided they wanted a better life.

Just as all of our fellow siblings have done across eons.

We explore.

Why is it that we go on vacations to distant lands when they have
already been
discovered? Volcanoes & Ice fields,Architecture & Art have been seen &
photographed.

Yet we still go to see them...we still go to visit history.

All of us explore.

That's why we go, it's in our genes. But not everyone understands
this.

But time & history have taught us that if a nation, any nation decides
not to take up a challenge,whether to explore space or undertake any
new national challenge, that nation suffers.

If Americans don't go back to the Moon, others will and that's fine
but our nation will not benefit in the growth, the new knowledge, the
new materials & techniques, the new industries and jobs that such a
challenge will bestow.

That's why we must go.

"Starstuffed" wrote in message link.net...
The approximately 100 years since the appearance of airplanes have seen
inhabitants of this planet launch themselves into space, orbit the earth,
and walk on the moon.

Now, we are being told, it is time to establish a permanent presence on the
moon to aid in the objective of landing humans on Mars around the year 2030.
What is the rush?

The few vehicular robots which have been fortunate enough to hit the bulls
eye exhibit an ability to adequately photograph the surface on which they
can more or less freely roam. These rovers have now evolved to a point
where water and evidence of life, either present or past, can be
experimentally detected. It has not come cheaply but at a far less
expensive price and safer program than manned exploration could be
performed. Future robotics will surely be even more capable.

If money for the space program were limitless and human life were cheap then
perhaps the hurry could be more understood.

Yes, we all know new frontiers were breached by being wussy little cowards,
right?
-Rich

"Starstuffed" wrote in message link.net...
The approximately 100 years since the appearance of airplanes have seen
inhabitants of this planet launch themselves into space, orbit the earth,
and walk on the moon.

Now, we are being told, it is time to establish a permanent presence on the
moon to aid in the objective of landing humans on Mars around the year 2030.
What is the rush?

The few vehicular robots which have been fortunate enough to hit the bulls
eye exhibit an ability to adequately photograph the surface on which they
can more or less freely roam. These rovers have now evolved to a point
where water and evidence of life, either present or past, can be
experimentally detected. It has not come cheaply but at a far less
expensive price and safer program than manned exploration could be
performed. Future robotics will surely be even more capable.

If money for the space program were limitless and human life were cheap then
perhaps the hurry could be more understood.

Yes, we all know new frontiers were breached by being wussy little cowards,
right?
-Rich

"Starstuffed" wrote in message link.net...
The approximately 100 years since the appearance of airplanes have seen
inhabitants of this planet launch themselves into space, orbit the earth,
and walk on the moon.

Now, we are being told, it is time to establish a permanent presence on the
moon to aid in the objective of landing humans on Mars around the year 2030.
What is the rush?

The few vehicular robots which have been fortunate enough to hit the bulls
eye exhibit an ability to adequately photograph the surface on which they
can more or less freely roam. These rovers have now evolved to a point
where water and evidence of life, either present or past, can be
experimentally detected. It has not come cheaply but at a far less
expensive price and safer program than manned exploration could be
performed. Future robotics will surely be even more capable.

If money for the space program were limitless and human life were cheap then
perhaps the hurry could be more understood.

Yes, we all know new frontiers were breached by being wussy little cowards,
right?
-Rich

"Starstuffed" wrote in message link.net...
The approximately 100 years since the appearance of airplanes have seen
inhabitants of this planet launch themselves into space, orbit the earth,
and walk on the moon.

Now, we are being told, it is time to establish a permanent presence on the
moon to aid in the objective of landing humans on Mars around the year 2030.
What is the rush?

The few vehicular robots which have been fortunate enough to hit the bulls
eye exhibit an ability to adequately photograph the surface on which they
can more or less freely roam. These rovers have now evolved to a point
where water and evidence of life, either present or past, can be
experimentally detected. It has not come cheaply but at a far less
expensive price and safer program than manned exploration could be
performed. Future robotics will surely be even more capable.

If money for the space program were limitless and human life were cheap then
perhaps the hurry could be more understood.

Yes, we all know new frontiers were breached by being wussy little cowards,
right?
-Rich

"Starstuffed" wrote in message link.net...
The approximately 100 years since the appearance of airplanes have seen
inhabitants of this planet launch themselves into space, orbit the earth,
and walk on the moon.

Now, we are being told, it is time to establish a permanent presence on the
moon to aid in the objective of landing humans on Mars around the year 2030.
What is the rush?

The few vehicular robots which have been fortunate enough to hit the bulls
eye exhibit an ability to adequately photograph the surface on which they
can more or less freely roam. These rovers have now evolved to a point
where water and evidence of life, either present or past, can be
experimentally detected. It has not come cheaply but at a far less
expensive price and safer program than manned exploration could be
performed. Future robotics will surely be even more capable.

If money for the space program were limitless and human life were cheap then
perhaps the hurry could be more understood.

Is there a scientific basis at this early stage in the history of being able
to lift our feet off this planet for extended periods to plant them on the
surface of Mars? Could it simply be a national prestige thing under the
guise of necessary science? Is it just another mountain to climb simply
because it's there? Is it political ploy?

I don't get it.

Think politics.
Think election year.
Think president who doesn't know where/what Mars is, and failed
astronomy.
Think population largely consisting of voters who are no smarter than
their prez, and don't realize that it isn't going to happen.