Equinox March 2013

On Mar 22, 9:05*am, Martin Nicholson
wrote:
Oriel - it is annoying isn't it when people hijack your threads and
*repeat themselves many time a week? *Just look how quickly you have
*been reduced to whining like some sulky teenager about me - now I
have
*adopted your own tactics!

For many years now you have been recycling your arguments (your words
*BTW) on the outer fringes of the astronomical world stating, but not
*explaining in any way, that 500 years worth of astronomers (your
words
*BTW) are wrong and you are right. Your success rate - in terms of
*people openly and consistently supporting your views - is close to
*zero. So isn't it time that you tried to reach out to a new audience
-
*one that hasn't read and rejected your viewpoint quite literally
*hundreds of times.

If you care enough to post here multiple times a day - despite
*widespread derision - then why don't you care enough to "go the
extra
*mile" and articulate exactly where your views and the views of the
*mainstream scientific community differ? It seems to me that your
*current unsuccessful policy - the one that you have been following
for
*years - has pretty much taken over your life and this must be a
source
*of deep unhappiness to you and your therapist.

Oriel crank, nutter or bot - frankly who cares?

As a final response to you - when you decided to exercise unauthorized
moderation on everyone else you created a spectacle,as for me here is
what it looks from my side -

http://thebowwowfactor.files.wordpre...lah-ginger.jpg

I always look for somebody with original opinions far from the mob
and that I haven't found yet but it has been quite a spectacle to see
an idiot moderate everyone else in the forum because they do not know
how to handle such a tactic.

Oriel - it is annoying isn't it when people hijack your threads and
repeat themselves many time a week? Just look how quickly you have
been reduced to whining like some sulky teenager about me - now I have
adopted your own tactics!

On Mar 21, 2:37*pm, (Anders Eklöf) wrote:

You, apparently.

Your conclusion is unwarranted.

He does apparently care a great deal about Oriel's waste of bandwidth,
but that doesn't mean he cares about the reasons behind it.

On the other hand, I do care. I hope to rescue Oriel from his
confusion, so he can join us in happily celebrating and fervently
embracing Newton's gift of truth.

John Savard

On Mar 21, 11:56*pm, oriel36 wrote:

I think you are doing a fine job and have nothing to say against you
or your tactic so make sure you keep up repeating that one sentence -
that is an unwanted power I have over you and you have over everyone
else.

Keep up that sort of thinking, and you might end up a gutless umbrella-
carrying sissy!

John Savard

"Quadibloc" wrote in message
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On Mar 21, 11:56 pm, oriel36 wrote:

I think you are doing a fine job and have nothing to say against you
or your tactic so make sure you keep up repeating that one sentence -
that is an unwanted power I have over you and you have over everyone
else.

Keep up that sort of thinking, and you might end up a gutless umbrella-
carrying sissy!

John Savard
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With a bowler hat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGk4AKOwJbc

"Quadibloc" wrote in message
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On Mar 21, 2:37 pm, (Anders Eklöf) wrote:

You, apparently.

Your conclusion is unwarranted.

He does apparently care a great deal about Oriel's waste of bandwidth,
but that doesn't mean he cares about the reasons behind it.

On the other hand, I do care. I hope to rescue Oriel from his
confusion, so he can join us in happily celebrating and fervently
embracing Newton's gift of truth.

John Savard
=================================================
Can you walk on water, feed 5000 fish sandwiches for lunch and turn water
into wine as well, Our Saviour Savard?

On Mar 22, 1:45*pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote:
"Quadibloc" *wrote in message

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On Mar 21, 2:37 pm, (Anders Eklöf) wrote:

You, apparently.

Your conclusion is unwarranted.

He does apparently care a great deal about Oriel's waste of bandwidth,
but that doesn't mean he cares about the reasons behind it.

On the other hand, I do care. I hope to rescue Oriel from his
confusion, so he can join us in happily celebrating and fervently
embracing Newton's gift of truth.

John Savard
=================================================
Can you walk on water, feed 5000 fish sandwiches for lunch and turn water
into wine as well, Our Saviour Savard?

You see,there are always three types of men on the Earth,someone like
Copernicus who turns the water of retrogrades into the wine of the
Earth's dynamics -

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap011220.html

Then there are other men who turn wine into vinegar but try to pass it
off as wine -

"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes
stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
always seen direct,..." Newton

The third kind are those who don't know the difference -

"And thus it is rare that mathematicians are intuitive and that men of
intuition are mathematicians, because mathematicians wish to treat
matters of intuition mathematically and make themselves ridiculous,
wishing to begin with definitions and then with axioms, which is not
the way to proceed in this kind of reasoning. Not that the mind does
not do so, but it does it tacitly, naturally, and without technical
rules; for the expression of it is beyond all men, and only a few can
feel it.
Intuitive minds, on the contrary, being thus accustomed to judge at
a single glance, are so astonished when they are presented with
propositions of which they understand nothing, and the way to which is
through definitions and axioms so sterile, and which they are not
accustomed to see thus in detail, that they are repelled and
disheartened.But dull minds are never either intuitive or
mathematical." Pascal

http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/phl3...a.html#SECTION
I

The Christian texts are spirit and love but to the dull they look like
magic but then again when you mix fact with fiction as you and your
mathematical buddies have done,how are you supposed to know what is
correct from what is not.After describing the equinox as zero
inclination to the Sun I forgive you everything and go your own way.

"oriel36" wrote in message
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On Mar 22, 1:45 pm, "Lord Androcles, Zeroth Earl of Medway"
wrote:
"Quadibloc" wrote in message

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On Mar 21, 2:37 pm, (Anders Eklöf) wrote:

You, apparently.

Your conclusion is unwarranted.

He does apparently care a great deal about Oriel's waste of bandwidth,
but that doesn't mean he cares about the reasons behind it.

On the other hand, I do care. I hope to rescue Oriel from his
confusion, so he can join us in happily celebrating and fervently
embracing Newton's gift of truth.

John Savard
=================================================
Can you walk on water, feed 5000 fish sandwiches for lunch and turn water
into wine as well, Our Saviour Savard?

You see,

========================================
I was addressing Savard, not you, you vicious ugly dull unimaginative
anonymous rude uncivilised empirical thug.

Quadibloc:
On the other hand, I do care. I hope to rescue Oriel from his
confusion, so he can join us in happily celebrating and fervently
embracing Newton's gift of truth.

It is to laugh. I repeat: you make yourself appear as stupid as Oriel
appears. He's a troll. One doesn't rescue trolls. One kill-files them.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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On Mar 23, 4:25*am, Davoud wrote:
Quadibloc:

On the other hand, I do care. I hope to rescue Oriel from his
confusion, so he can join us in happily celebrating and fervently
embracing Newton's gift of truth.

It is to laugh. I repeat: you make yourself appear as stupid as Oriel
appears. He's a troll. One doesn't rescue trolls. One kill-files them.


I am the one who smiles these days as a community scrambles to keep
up.

The mechanism which links plate tectonics with the spherical deviation
of the planet was developed here by simply interpreting the behavior
of all rotating viscous compositions and applying differential
rotation to the Earth';s fluid interior,instead of adopting the neat
reasoning where everything fits together neatly they dumped every
assertion they could find at rotation in the hope one would stick.

The really attractive idea that 'certain types of supernova which
produce nebula and do not destroy their progenitor star are the basis
for solar system formation so that some supernova events are a
transition phase of stellar evolution and not the final moments of a
star hence the perception switches to the birth of a solar system
where a giant star loses its nebula generating process and becomes a
smaller star with a solar system when the smoke clears,so to speak.

These are two topics of discussion which should occupy genuine
empiricists as they allow plenty of room for speculation yet physical
considerations keep the themes compact, exceptionally interesting and
anyone can engage in these things by being participators rather than
spectators trying to imitate academics who seem to do nothing apart
from try to fumble around with the information they get here in these
forums.

In this thread alone it was shown to a 100% certainty that there is no
axial orientation component involved in the variations in the natural
noon cycle as the component that causes the observed effect is solely
a component of the orbital behavior of the planet and separately,the
orientation defines where in the spectrum a planet's climate is
between equatorial and polar.In short,astronomy has never been so
interesting and productive for those who can find themselves
interpreting all the images that 21st century technology
supplies.Great if all you want to do is believe magnification is
astronomy but people know better than this and only images are put in
sequence and in context with the motions and structure within the
celestial arena then the curtain rises on a more satisfying and
explosively vibrant form of astronomy ,an astronomy anyone can do.


--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm