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Old May 7th 14, 10:31 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 5/7/14 10:57 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:27:21 PM UTC-6, Uncarollo2 wrote:

new forms of electric storage are only about 5 years away.


Do you know how long ago fusion power was only 10 years away?


Hah! Trick question.
Fusion power has/will always been/be 20 years away.
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Old May 8th 14, 03:23 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"palsing" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 2:26:46 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
discuss people." Eleanor Roosevelt


"I once had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not
pleased to read the description in the catalogue: no good in a bed, but fine
up against a wall.
Eleanor Roosevelt"

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The double entendre is always funny no matter how old it is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_entendre#Etymology
Examples of sexual innuendo and double-entendre occur in Geoffrey Chaucer's
The Canterbury Tales (14th century), in which the Wife of Bath's Tale is
laden with double entendres. The most famous of these may be her use of the
word "queynte" to describe both domestic duties (from the homonym "quaint")
and genitalia ("queynte" being a root of the modern English word ****.)
After the Norman conquest snobbery demanded French words were permitted but
Anglo-Saxon words meaning the same thing were low-life. Don't tell Snell,
though.

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Old May 8th 14, 04:28 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:24:41 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:58:51 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:

On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 2:26:46 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:








"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Eleanor Roosevelt


"I once had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalogue: no good in a bed, but fine up against a wall.




Eleanor Roosevelt"




It must be cocktail hour again there Paul...


It is always the cocktail hour SOMEWHERE, Gerald, it is what makes the world go 'round...
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Old May 8th 14, 07:09 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Thursday, May 8, 2014 4:28:11 AM UTC+1, palsing wrote:
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 1:24:41 PM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:

On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:58:51 PM UTC+1, palsing wrote:




On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 2:26:46 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
















"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Eleanor Roosevelt




"I once had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalogue: no good in a bed, but fine up against a wall.








Eleanor Roosevelt"








It must be cocktail hour again there Paul...




It is always the cocktail hour SOMEWHERE, Gerald, it is what makes the world go 'round...


Another quote that is worth noting Paul is perhaps the overused - Ad astra per aspera.

The tendency among contributors in saa nowadays is to try to make oneself feel better by trying to make others feel worse about themselves and that is not the rough road to the stars but the slippery slope to bottomless inanity.

There is an intense satisfaction in the simple things that many would miss and they rarely get an airing among those who have lost that intuitive sense of the celestial arena and their position and motion in it. Fair dues to you for sticking around and contributing insofar as the progress of astronomy is just one of those things which rely on individual contributions rather than communal dictates like political or social opinions.



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Old May 8th 14, 08:04 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 07/05/2014 18:57, Quadibloc wrote:
On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 6:27:21 PM UTC-6, Uncarollo2 wrote:

new forms of electric storage are only about 5 years away.


Although there might be a breakthrough in terms of fast recovery
capacitors backed by slower battery storage they are never going to
compete with pumped storage reservoirs for grid balancing.

And in cars you have the *very* big problem that any sealed chemical
battery has to carry all its reactants around with it. Fuel cells at
least have the advantage like combustion of taking oxygen from the air
but they are far too tetchy about the purity of their fuel.

Do you know how long ago fusion power was only 10 years away?

John Savard


Commercial fusion power has been 50 years away since the 1960's when we
were also promised nuclear fission electricity "too cheap to meter" in
the glory days of the white heat of technology "revolution".

There were a heck of a lot of third rate nuclear physics technicians
teaching physics in the 1970's when promises failed to materialise.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown
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Old May 8th 14, 02:16 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 9:37:34 AM UTC-4, AM wrote:


I don't think people know or understand what happened at the end of the
first gulf war.


An armistice was signed. All that meant was a cessation of hostilities,
that's it. The war was NOT over ! Add to that Hussein violated un
resolution 1441 which in and of itself was cause and just grounds for
resumption of hostilities. It's amazing how ignorant of the history of
this fact (s) people are !


We have a similar case wrt N. Korea. The war never ended there, just a
cessation of hostilities.


And of course Korea had no significant oil reserves, so hostilities there must have been over something else. Same with Vietnam.

While Saddam might have invaded Kuwait over oil, the coalition was more interested in liberating Kuwait on general principles.

If someone has a problem with "oil wars," then he should demonstrate his displeasure with oil by not using any.





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Old May 9th 14, 08:06 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 4:34:24 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 07/05/2014 06:49, RichA wrote:

On Monday, April 28, 2014 10:02:07 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:


On Sunday, April 27, 2014 6:02:51 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:




On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:26:56 AM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:




So you feel that the ultra-wealthy don't have enough money yet, that they need more? Thanks for enlightening us.


Uncarollo




They don't owe you or anyone else a living, is the main point.




Pope Francis took a hard stance against inequality on Monday in a tweet sent from his official Twitter page: Inequality is the root of social evil.-- Pope Francis (@Pontifex) April 28, 2014




Rich, go argue with the Pope.




If that "liberation theologist" was in South America in 1985, he'd find himself at the bottom of a well.




The deranged rightard solution to anyone they disagree with.

So much for freedom of speech!


I'm not religious and I'm not advocating doing it to him, but I believe radical socialism is detrimental to everything.
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Old May 9th 14, 08:08 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 8:38:46 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 12:03:44 AM UTC-4, RichA wrote:



Fact: He also had 17 tons of uranium oxide which (during the war) was transferred to Canada for processing into nuclear fuel. What do the libs


think Saddam wanted to do with that material?




http://webecoist.momtastic.com/2011/...uranium-glass/



(Libs like that sort of stuff.)


The dog is cute.
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Old May 10th 14, 03:41 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:27:21 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:

I'm all for nuclear energy. Charging electric vehicles for propulsion, solar to augment daytime peak use.


new forms of electric storage are only about 5 years away.


Since CO2 emission is a ongoing occurrence and there will be -only- a five year wait for batteries then perhaps eliminating your fossil fuel use until then shouldn't be such a hardship?

Of course, aircraft currently require fossil fuel so no more trips to Hawaii until that situation is resolved. (And no, reserving scarce biofuels for aircraft is cheating, not to mention fascist.)


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Old May 10th 14, 07:48 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Saturday, May 10, 2014 10:41:23 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 6, 2014 8:27:21 PM UTC-4, Uncarollo2 wrote:



I'm all for nuclear energy. Charging electric vehicles for propulsion, solar to augment daytime peak use.




new forms of electric storage are only about 5 years away.




Since CO2 emission is a ongoing occurrence and there will be -only- a five year wait for batteries then perhaps eliminating your fossil fuel use until then shouldn't be such a hardship?



Of course, aircraft currently require fossil fuel so no more trips to Hawaii until that situation is resolved. (And no, reserving scarce biofuels for aircraft is cheating, not to mention fascist.)


Are you kidding? I'm sure some Third Worlder will be happy to live with a 50-100% increase in the price of corn (and as a result, all staples) so I can fly to Hawaii. It's not like this would be the first time.
 




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