What causes the seasons ?

The Earth has two surface rotations to the central Sun and that the astronomical community refuses to accept the orbital component at a time when they are going toxic with climate is a great loss to this world.

The title of this thread requires two separate causes obviating the need to dump the cause into 'tilt'.That I have to bypass utter nuisances to get this information to a wider audience may be the most appalling thing about this because there is absolutely nothing difficult in allowing the polar coordinates to not only act as a window into that orbital component but use the degree of inclination to determine the nature of planetary climate.

Is the polar day/night cycle and its orbital cause so unbelievably difficult to envisage that readers would rather suffer the idea of human control of the complex planetary climate system than to make an attempt to streamline the whole thing including the cause of the seasons ?.

Minus daily rotation,the Earth's orbital behavior as it travels around the Sun would act like the graphic on the right while the moon's orbital behavior is reflected by the graphic to the left if the graphic could be adapted for comparative purposes -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _Earth.gif

This is really,really important - climate researches are omitting the defining spectrum which determines what type of climate a planet has by virtue of a planet's rotational inclination where the North/South polar coordinates act like a window into the orbital behavior of the planet.It is a new way of looking at the cause of the seasons and very much enjoyable once observers get into the spirit of things.

Raising the standard of astronomy raises the standard of everything else as it demonstrates the power of interpretative reasoning in a world that is now highly speculative in all its endeavors and very unstable at that.

Minus daily rotation,the Earth's orbital behavior as it travels around the Sun would act like the graphic on the right while the moon's orbital behavior is reflected by the graphic to the left if the graphic could be adapted for comparative purposes -

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._the_Earth.gif

This is really,really important - climate researches are omitting the defining spectrum which determines what type of climate a planet has by virtue of a planet's rotational inclination where the North/South polar coordinates act like a window into the orbital behavior of the planet.It is a new way of looking at the cause of the seasons.

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On Friday, July 19, 2013 12:21:39 AM UTC-7, oriel36 wrote:
Minus daily rotation,the Earth's orbital behavior as it travels around the Sun would act like the graphic on the right while the moon's orbital behavior is reflected by the graphic to the left if the graphic could be adapted for comparative purposes -



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._the_Earth.gif


WOW! You finally agree with everyone else! That graphic on the left CLEARLY shows that the moon MUST rotate in order to present the same face to the Earth all the time. with respect to my computer screen it is obviously rotating...

The answer as to why we have the seasons requires two additional questions.

What causes the daylight/darkness cycle once each 24 hours ? and the second question - what causes the polar daylight/darkness cycle arising from a separate cause ?.

When men can answer those two questions they can begin to put together the cause of the seasons and why natural noon cycles vary as both arise from the same causes.

There is no reason why the correct explanation cannot be promoted as quickly as possible insofar as the introduction of the cause of the polar day/night cycle is crucial for planetary climate studies and especially the climate spectrum.

Is all this too difficult for the salaried astronomers ?.This is no game and no grounds for grandstanding,it simply is the correct explanation that will be adopted sooner or later.

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 09:10:21 -0700 (PDT), palsing
wrote, in part:

WOW! You finally agree with everyone else! That graphic on the left CLEARLY
shows that the moon MUST rotate in order to present the same face to the
Earth all the time. with respect to my computer screen it is obviously
rotating...

But that depends on how you define "rotation". The situation in the
image shows the Moon doing what Oriel calls *not* rotating. It presents
the same face to its primary, and that is what rotation is reckoned
from. Just as the Earth turns with respect to its primary in 24 hours.

Of course, a direct consequence of his ideas is the "wandering analemma
Sun" he professes to anathematize.

John Savard
http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html

On Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:17:22 -0700 (PDT), oriel36
wrote, in part:

The answer as to why we have the seasons requires two additional questions.

What causes the daylight/darkness cycle once each 24 hours ? and the second
question - what causes the polar daylight/darkness cycle arising from a
separate cause ?.

Well, the Earth orbits the Sun. The whole Earth - not just the poles.

So the Sun is moved apparently in the Earth's sky over the whole Earth
by the cause of the polar daylight/darkness cycle - the Earth's orbit.
(Second question answered first.)

The daylight/darkness cycle in the temperate regions is caused by the
Earth rotating once every 23 hours, 56 minutes, and 4 seconds; *plus*
the Earth's orbital motion, which causes a negative daylight/darkness
cycle - experienced at the poles as an annual daylight/darkness cycle,
and in the temperate and tropical areas as what subtracts one from the
366 1/4 rotations to give 365 1/4 days in a year.

When men can answer those two questions they can begin to put together
the cause of the seasons and why natural noon cycles vary as both arise
from the same causes.

I resent that remark: I am *not* gay!

Is all this too difficult for the salaried astronomers ?

No, it's too difficult for _you_, because they have it right, and you
have it wrong.

John Savard
http://www.quadibloc.com/index.html

The major cause of the Earth's seasons is due to the rotational axis
being inclined to the normal of the plane of the ecliptic thus the
earth experiences a full set of season every orbital year.

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On Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:03:01 AM UTC+1, Sam Wormley wrote:
The major cause of the Earth's seasons is due to the rotational axis

being inclined to the normal of the plane of the ecliptic thus the

earth experiences a full set of season every orbital year.



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Teach your students properly that to explain the seasons requires the two additional questions which unlocks the correct answer.The cause of the polar daylight/darkness cycle where roughly 6 months of daylight follows 6 months of darkness requires a separate cause to the daylight/darkness cycle within a 24 hour period.The North/South polar coordinates therefore are assigned their proper significance of being a window into the orbital behavior of the planet.

Your response neither addresses the daily cycle nor the orbital cycle which combine to create the seasons.This is hugely important as the decree of axial inclination,something that remains constant throughout an orbital period, determines what type of climate is experienced on the surface of the planet within a spectrum of 0 degrees (equatorial climate) to 90 degrees (polar climate).

If observers can't make sense of the polar day/night cycle and its cause they may as well give up calling themselves astronomers for it is as obvious as the 24 hour day/night cycle.There is no standing on ceremony and ,as usual,I expect nothing apart from watching the normal hatchet job they do on these insights as they morph from one explanation to another like they did with the rotation mechanism for plate tectonics.