Aether has mass

mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 29, 9:20 pm, Brad wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_...es#Pilot_waves

Was any of that contributed by yourself?

I contributed pilot waves.


Always with the negative pilot waves, Moriarty!

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

On Nov 29, 5:42*pm, GogoJF wrote:
On Nov 29, 7:31*pm, GogoJF wrote:









On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:14*pm, John Gogo wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:04*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, GogoJF wrote:

The two slits and their separation acts like some primitive filter- a
primitive filter with a design.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

Again, the double-slit model is macroscopic- the effects are
macroscopic. *When you talk of particles- these particles are not
observable. *Your idea is just a theory. *The aether is unobservable.
The idea that there would contain so much energy called the aether-
yet to be so transparent and capable of supporting observations with
our most powerful telescopes of objects which are billions of light
years away seems unimaginable.

Again, a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

It is a miracle that all of the observed planets revolve around the
Sun. *The Sun has made this all possible. *When we realize how "calm"
the Earth has made it for us humans- we are even more amazed. *The
double-slit experiment is one done in "calm" circumstances. *In fact,
all human measures follow this "calm" philosophy. *To compare aether
with the double-slit experiment does not even make sense to me.

What I am trying to say is- sure it is alright to try to make sense of
the two-slit model on a local level- that one particle (if we may call
it that) has an associated aether wave- that affects both slits. *But
this all small scale- we have no right to assume that the results of
the two slit model will give any sort of truism when dealing with
astronomical scales- or atomic scales for that matter.

Is there any objective method of proving that a singular photon wave
(all by itself) actually travels, and is not otherwise simply getting
replicated along any given path?

It seems logical that aether of whatever's dark/clear matter that gets
displaced by everything, could also provide photon conductance.

Could dark energy be positrons?

On Nov 30, 9:38*am, linuxgal wrote:
mpc755 wrote:
How about understanding displaced aether pushing back and exerting
inward pressure toward matter is gravity?

I like the idea that gravity is when an object follows a geodesic in
space-time. *It's much simpler, and has nearly a century of
observational evidence to support it.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

An object following a geodesic in space-time is a pseudoforce. It
doesn't physically exist. It is a mathematical representation of
gravity.

Now, all you have to do is associated the physical force of the
displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the
matter and you understand what is actually occurring physically in
nature to cause gravity.

If it helps you to conceptually visualize gravity as an object
following a geodesic in space-time that is fine.

All you have to do to that in order to understand what is occurring
physically in nature which causes the object to follow the geodesic is
to understand aether displaced by matter pushing back toward matter is
gravity and that is what causes the object to follow the geodesic.

The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the
aether.

Curved spacetime is displaced aether.

On Nov 30, 9:51*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 29, 5:42*pm, GogoJF wrote:









On Nov 29, 7:31*pm, GogoJF wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:14*pm, John Gogo wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:04*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, GogoJF wrote:

The two slits and their separation acts like some primitive filter- a
primitive filter with a design.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

Again, the double-slit model is macroscopic- the effects are
macroscopic. *When you talk of particles- these particles are not
observable. *Your idea is just a theory. *The aether is unobservable.
The idea that there would contain so much energy called the aether-
yet to be so transparent and capable of supporting observations with
our most powerful telescopes of objects which are billions of light
years away seems unimaginable.

Again, a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave..
In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

It is a miracle that all of the observed planets revolve around the
Sun. *The Sun has made this all possible. *When we realize how "calm"
the Earth has made it for us humans- we are even more amazed. *The
double-slit experiment is one done in "calm" circumstances. *In fact,
all human measures follow this "calm" philosophy. *To compare aether
with the double-slit experiment does not even make sense to me.

What I am trying to say is- sure it is alright to try to make sense of
the two-slit model on a local level- that one particle (if we may call
it that) has an associated aether wave- that affects both slits. *But
this all small scale- we have no right to assume that the results of
the two slit model will give any sort of truism when dealing with
astronomical scales- or atomic scales for that matter.

Is there any objective method of proving that a singular photon wave
(all by itself) actually travels, and is not otherwise simply getting
replicated along any given path?

It seems logical that aether of whatever's dark/clear matter that gets
displaced by everything, could also provide photon conductance.

Could dark energy be positrons?

A light wave is an aether displacement wave.

On 11/30/2012 9:40 AM, linuxgal wrote:
mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 29, 9:20 pm, Brad wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_...es#Pilot_waves

Was any of that contributed by yourself?

I contributed pilot waves.


Always with the negative pilot waves, Moriarty!


I wonder how many people will get that reference?











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On Nov 30, 7:34*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:51*am, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 29, 5:42*pm, GogoJF wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:31*pm, GogoJF wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:14*pm, John Gogo wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:04*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, GogoJF wrote:

The two slits and their separation acts like some primitive filter- a
primitive filter with a design.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

Again, the double-slit model is macroscopic- the effects are
macroscopic. *When you talk of particles- these particles are not
observable. *Your idea is just a theory. *The aether is unobservable.
The idea that there would contain so much energy called the aether-
yet to be so transparent and capable of supporting observations with
our most powerful telescopes of objects which are billions of light
years away seems unimaginable.

Again, a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

It is a miracle that all of the observed planets revolve around the
Sun. *The Sun has made this all possible. *When we realize how "calm"
the Earth has made it for us humans- we are even more amazed. *The
double-slit experiment is one done in "calm" circumstances. *In fact,
all human measures follow this "calm" philosophy. *To compare aether
with the double-slit experiment does not even make sense to me.

What I am trying to say is- sure it is alright to try to make sense of
the two-slit model on a local level- that one particle (if we may call
it that) has an associated aether wave- that affects both slits. *But
this all small scale- we have no right to assume that the results of
the two slit model will give any sort of truism when dealing with
astronomical scales- or atomic scales for that matter.

Is there any objective method of proving that a singular photon wave
(all by itself) actually travels, and is not otherwise simply getting
replicated along any given path?

It seems logical that aether of whatever's dark/clear matter that gets
displaced by everything, could also provide photon conductance.

Could dark energy be positrons?

A light wave is an aether displacement wave.

You could be right about that, in which case the photon wave and its
2D quantum entangled particle has actual volume and mass. Can you and
your aether theory of everything help to establish the particle mass
and volume of a photon?

On average, how many all-inclusive (0 Hz to 1e24 Hz) photons exist per
cm3/sec or per nano second if you like?

mpc755 wrote:
The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

No wonder you're a theist, you think the galaxy is an angel.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

On Nov 30, 1:42*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:34*am, mpc755 wrote:









On Nov 30, 9:51*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 29, 5:42*pm, GogoJF wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:31*pm, GogoJF wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:14*pm, John Gogo wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:04*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, GogoJF wrote:

The two slits and their separation acts like some primitive filter- a
primitive filter with a design.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

Again, the double-slit model is macroscopic- the effects are
macroscopic. *When you talk of particles- these particles are not
observable. *Your idea is just a theory. *The aether is unobservable.
The idea that there would contain so much energy called the aether-
yet to be so transparent and capable of supporting observations with
our most powerful telescopes of objects which are billions of light
years away seems unimaginable.

Again, a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

It is a miracle that all of the observed planets revolve around the
Sun. *The Sun has made this all possible. *When we realize how "calm"
the Earth has made it for us humans- we are even more amazed. *The
double-slit experiment is one done in "calm" circumstances. *In fact,
all human measures follow this "calm" philosophy. *To compare aether
with the double-slit experiment does not even make sense to me.

What I am trying to say is- sure it is alright to try to make sense of
the two-slit model on a local level- that one particle (if we may call
it that) has an associated aether wave- that affects both slits. *But
this all small scale- we have no right to assume that the results of
the two slit model will give any sort of truism when dealing with
astronomical scales- or atomic scales for that matter.

Is there any objective method of proving that a singular photon wave
(all by itself) actually travels, and is not otherwise simply getting
replicated along any given path?

It seems logical that aether of whatever's dark/clear matter that gets
displaced by everything, could also provide photon conductance.

Could dark energy be positrons?

A light wave is an aether displacement wave.

You could be right about that, in which case the photon wave and its
2D quantum entangled particle has actual volume and mass. *Can you and
your aether theory of everything help to establish the particle mass
and volume of a photon?

On average, how many all-inclusive (0 Hz to 1e24 Hz) photons exist per
cm3/sec or per nano second if you like?

I do not think it can be known if a photon is a particle which has an
associated external aether displacement wave or if the photon
'particle' consists of a very small region of the wave itself.

On Nov 30, 1:44*pm, linuxgal wrote:
mpc755 wrote:
The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

No wonder you're a theist, you think the galaxy is an angel.

--
Halftime at Circvs Maximvs, and the Lions lead the Christians 326-0

'Milky Way's halo more squished than spherical'
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34735679.../#.TjkpbmDmE2c

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

On Nov 30, 11:31*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:42*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Nov 30, 7:34*am, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 30, 9:51*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 29, 5:42*pm, GogoJF wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:31*pm, GogoJF wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:14*pm, John Gogo wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:04*pm, mpc755 wrote:

On Nov 29, 7:18*pm, GogoJF wrote:

The two slits and their separation acts like some primitive filter- a
primitive filter with a design.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a
double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and
the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

Again, the double-slit model is macroscopic- the effects are
macroscopic. *When you talk of particles- these particles are not
observable. *Your idea is just a theory. *The aether is unobservable.
The idea that there would contain so much energy called the aether-
yet to be so transparent and capable of supporting observations with
our most powerful telescopes of objects which are billions of light
years away seems unimaginable.

Again, a moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit
and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

It is a miracle that all of the observed planets revolve around the
Sun. *The Sun has made this all possible. *When we realize how "calm"
the Earth has made it for us humans- we are even more amazed. *The
double-slit experiment is one done in "calm" circumstances. *In fact,
all human measures follow this "calm" philosophy. *To compare aether
with the double-slit experiment does not even make sense to me.

What I am trying to say is- sure it is alright to try to make sense of
the two-slit model on a local level- that one particle (if we may call
it that) has an associated aether wave- that affects both slits. *But
this all small scale- we have no right to assume that the results of
the two slit model will give any sort of truism when dealing with
astronomical scales- or atomic scales for that matter.

Is there any objective method of proving that a singular photon wave
(all by itself) actually travels, and is not otherwise simply getting
replicated along any given path?

It seems logical that aether of whatever's dark/clear matter that gets
displaced by everything, could also provide photon conductance.

Could dark energy be positrons?

A light wave is an aether displacement wave.

You could be right about that, in which case the photon wave and its
2D quantum entangled particle has actual volume and mass. *Can you and
your aether theory of everything help to establish the particle mass
and volume of a photon?

On average, how many all-inclusive (0 Hz to 1e24 Hz) photons exist per
cm3/sec or per nano second if you like?

I do not think it can be known if a photon is a particle which has an
associated external aether displacement wave or if the photon
'particle' consists of a very small region of the wave itself.

I'd have to agree with that.

My thought is this; By now there's at least 1e100 photons/atom as
coexisting within our universe, and since there could easily be 1e83
atoms and 1e100 photons/atom = 1e183 photons (as always increasing by
at least 1e74/sec regardless of all the trillions upon trillions upon
trillion per second getting terminated by their being trapped inside
of matter, hitting those photon absorbing targets or passing through
slits)