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Old April 18th 09, 06:45 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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PBS has been showing a one hour program
summarizing the history of the telescope and
how it contributed to advances in astrophysics.
Neal deGrasse Tyson narrates.

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Old April 18th 09, 08:50 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Rick033050" wrote in news:9loGl.791$N5.30
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PBS has been showing a one hour program
summarizing the history of the telescope and
how it contributed to advances in astrophysics.
Neal deGrasse Tyson narrates.




It's very good but I would really like to see a program done on AA's and
their scopes...how they are made and used by some of the advanced
Astrophotogaphers...
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Old April 18th 09, 09:49 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Apr 18, 6:45*pm, "Rick033050" wrote:
PBS has been showing a one hour program
summarizing the history of the telescope and
how it contributed to advances in astrophysics.
Neal deGrasse Tyson narrates.

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Rick Evans
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Lon -71° 05'
Lat +42° 11'


Looks like astrological propaganda given the way information is
relayed .

"Today students grow up with the notion that the Earth is just another
planet orbiting the Sun and this idea is reinforced in popular culture
through cartoons, movies, toys, and more. But in Galileo's time, the
notion that the Earth could be moving without our sensing it seemed
the height of absurdity. If your students are older, you might assign
them to research what the debate in the 1500's and 1600's was about
and get them to stage a debate between believers in the geo-centric
and helio-centric perspectives."

http://www.400years.org/for_teachers/teaching_ideas.php

The Church at the time of Copernicus was highly engaged in astronomy,I
know this by virtue of the theological arguments,calendar corrections
and the attempts to find arguments for the Earth's motion.The idea
that Christian astronomical tradition was opposed to the motions of
the Earth is modern empirical fiction from people who have a distaste
for the actual reasoning of Copernicus and his individual resolutions
for annual orbital motion and daily rotation.

As empiricists have control the education system,they can fabricate
any story they like regarding Galileo,regarding climate or just about
anything else they desire.That website aired on public television
dictates to teachers what toi teach students but let them teach
Galileo's own words on the matter -

"In order to facilitate their designs, they seek so far as possible
(at least among the common people) to make this opinion seem new and
to belong to me alone. They pretend not to know that its author, or
rather its restorer and confirmer, was Nicholas Copernicus; and that
he was not only a Catholic, but a priest and a canon. He was in fact
so esteemed by the church that when the Lateran Council under Leo X
took up the correction of the church calendar, Copernicus was called
to Rome from the most remote parts of Germany to undertake its reform.
At that time the calendar was defective because the true measures of
the year and the lunar month were not exactly known. The Bishop of
Culm, then superintendent of this matter, assigned Copernicus to seek
more light and greater certainty concerning the celestial motions by
means of constant study and labor.

With Herculean toil he set his admirable mind to this task, and he
made such great progress in this science and brought our knowledge of
the heavenly motions to such precision that he became celebrated as an
astronomer. Since that time not only has the calendar been regulated
by his teachings, but tables of all the motions of the planets have
been calculated as well. Having reduced his system into six books, he
published these at the insistence of the Cardinal of Capua and the
Bishop of Culm. And since he had assumed his laborious enterprise by
order of the supreme pontiff, he dedicated this book On the celestial
revolutions to Pope Paul III. When printed, the book was accepted by
the holy Church, and it has been read and studied by everyone without
the faintest hint of any objection ever being conceived against its
doctrines."

http://www.galilean-library.org/manu...p?postid=43841

The empiricists can not only manufacture historical fiction without
objection in order to set the groundwork for their cult 'method' ,they
can do much worse - they can distort data to mesh with pre-conceived
conclusions where the direction is away from appreciation of
terrestrial and celestial phenomena and towards a social ideology
notwithstanding the enormous distortions,errors and fabrications that
exist with even the most basic astronomical premises.
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Old April 19th 09, 01:44 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Apr 18, 1:45 pm, "Rick033050" wrote:
PBS has been showing a one hour program
summarizing the history of the telescope and
how it contributed to advances in astrophysics.
Neal deGrasse Tyson narrates.

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I haven't seen the show yet, but the 400 year history of the telescope
has prompted me to come up with
a short, incomplete list of historically important telescopes ......


Galileo's refractors (Copernicus' theory)

Roemer's telescope (speed of light measurement)

Herschel's telescopes (Uranus discovery. Deep sky pioneer. Dark
nebulae discovery?)

Piazzi's telescope (first asteroid)

Bessell's heliometer (stellar parallax)

Schiaparelli's refractor (Mars nomenclature)

Barnard's astrographs (dark nebulae photo)

Hubble's Mt. Wilson 100-inch (expanding universe)

Tombaugh's astrograph (first KBO?)

Reber's radio telescope (early radio astronomy)

Wilson and Penzias' microwave receiver (cosmic background radiation)

Davis' underground tank of cleaning fluid (solar neutrino study)


Ancillary equipment such as Fraunhofer's spectroscopes and some
instruments aboard spacecraft could be included too.
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Old April 19th 09, 07:49 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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It's very good but I would really like to see a program done on AA's and
their scopes...how they are made and used by some of the advanced
Astrophotogaphers...

Well there is Timothy Ferris', "Seeing in the Dark".
http://www.pbs.org/seeinginthedark/

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Old April 19th 09, 08:15 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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It's very good but I would really like to see a program done on AA's
and their scopes...how they are made and used by some of the advanced
Astrophotogaphers...

Well there is Timothy Ferris', "Seeing in the Dark".
http://www.pbs.org/seeinginthedark/




Thanks...I'll have to look into it
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Old April 22nd 09, 05:30 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Rick033050" wrote in news:9loGl.791$N5.30
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PBS has been showing a one hour program
summarizing the history of the telescope and
how it contributed to advances in astrophysics.
Neal deGrasse Tyson narrates.


I hate that smarmy goof.
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Old April 23rd 09, 05:33 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Rich" wrote in message ...
"Rick033050" wrote in news:9loGl.791$N5.30

I hate that smarmy goof.


Further evidence of the guy's likeability.
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Old April 24th 09, 07:14 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Apr 18, 2:49*pm, oriel36 wrote:

The Church at the time of Copernicus was highly engaged in astronomy,


....but the Church at the time of Galileo was not so tolerant. This is
usually blamed on the Protestant Reformation of the time, which caused
the Catholic Church to be more intolerant of any hint of unorthodox
thinking - and, in addition, Martin Luther ridiculed the Copernican
theory as well, presumably to show that he wasn't promoting atheism or
something.

In the time of Galileo and Kepler, the Catholic Church was out of
compliance with that portion of natural law which is discussed in the
First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and engaged in the initiation of the use of force to interfere with
the private religious beliefs of ordinary individuals, despite not
even being a democratically-elected government.

How can anything possibly excuse such a crime?

John Savard
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Old April 25th 09, 03:36 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Rick033050" wrote in news:9loGl.791$N5.30

I hate that smarmy goof.


Further evidence of the guy's likeability.


The show was mediocre. Not enough on telescopes.
 




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