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Andre Lieven wrote: Having seen the series on both VHS and DVD ( Owning the latter ), I would heartily recommend the DVD set. Since the recordings are on two VHS tapes that I already had recorded other things on (Bye-bye "The Blue Angel" with May Britt and Curt Jurgens*) the effective price of this operation was zero, other than the electricity used to run the VCR recorder. Not perfect, but as comrade Stalin would warn us "The perfect is the enemy of the good enough...in a perfect world you would be flayed alive, but in this case shooting you is good enough..." :-) * And Curt Jurgens played Wernher von Braun in "I Aim At The Stars"...now this led to an interesting alternate history timeline: The year is 1930, and 18 year old Wernher von Braun is completely smitten by Marlene Dietrich's portrayal of Lola-Lola in Sternberg's "Blue Angel"...to the degree that he begins to woo her via small love notes fired into her window on cunningly made small solid-fueled rockets...impressed by the handsome young scientist who can not only promise a girl the Sun, the Moon, and the stars....but has the mathematical formulas to show her how he intends to reach each of them, Marlene begins a temptuous affair with Wernher...but Hitler's Nazi power in Germany continues to grow, and Marlene and Wernher must flee from Germany in disguise...he disguised as "Rakete- Der Feure Clown" and she as "Lola-Lola- Der Degenerate Slut". They flee to America where they settle in Hollywood- there Werner gets a job as Gene Autry's hilarious sidekick "Rocket- The Rodeo Clown" and Marlene stars as "Marlene- The Saloon Whore". But a chance meeting with Jack Parsons at a Satanic Mass that Marlene is holding as a Saturday night theme party brings Wernher to the attention of the the Caltech rocket boys, and once that golden moment occurs nothing can stop them... by the summer of 1942 Germany is under bombardment by JPL-made "Liberty 2" rockets, and the war comes to a quick end before Kennedy's PT-109 can be sunk- and he become a war hero President who gets to snub Sammy Davis at his wedding to May Britt. So it just goes to show you...it's always something. Pat |
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Mr. Miller,
Do you have ANY background in the military whatsoever? How do you reduce mutiny to PMS? Hello? Can you produce a single test pilot who has been shocked by changes in the flight plan? WHY was Schirra so wound up? He's belly-aching about changes, about doing experiments HE did not think were useful, and then declared war about whether or not they were going to wear their helmets upon reentry. That is NOT PMS...it's MUTINY. What's worse is, he tanked Eisele's and Cunningham's careers in the process. |
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Terrell Miller wrote: well, ultimately what happened on A7 is they went round and round in circles while bottled up in a tiny little spacecraft. Necessary for what came after, hell yes. Dramatically interesting or relevant...nope. Bottled up in a tiny little spacecraft with a head cold, a work schedule that continues to evolve even though you warned them that you didn't want it to do that, and finally telling Mission control to go stick it and getting yourself in trouble just prior to retirement, and your crew grounded permanently? Nothing near as interesting as throwing a switch in the CM or burning out a TV camera there, is there? I lived through the Apollo flights so I remember the mutiny happening; others are too young to remember any of this, and I think that excising it from the the show is to be guilty of cleaning up history into a nicely polished and polite form for the sake of making it easily digestible for those who are going to regard this as some sort of history series, and use it as their prime source of information on Apollo. Wally's cold medication commercial would have been the perfect way to end the show, but just like WvB's barely visible appearance in the miniseries, anything that doesn't fit right is going to get tossed right out. Pat |
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Pat Flannery ) writes: Andre Lieven wrote: Having seen the series on both VHS and DVD ( Owning the latter ), I would heartily recommend the DVD set. Since the recordings are on two VHS tapes that I already had recorded other things on (Bye-bye "The Blue Angel" with May Britt and Curt Jurgens*) the effective price of this operation was zero, other than the electricity used to run the VCR recorder. Lord knows that I'm tight with a buck, at times, but there are other times, and things, for which the wallet needs to be loosened, some. I had the DVD set of FTETTM before I had more than two 2 disc sets of Thunderbirds, which I got as gifts. Not perfect, but as comrade Stalin would warn us "The perfect is the enemy of the good enough...in a perfect world you would be flayed alive, but in this case shooting you is good enough..." :-) Don't say such things, to Canadians curently visiting the Sunshine/ Gunshine state.... g * And Curt Jurgens played Wernher von Braun in "I Aim At The Stars"... I'll have a pound of what you're smokin'... :-) Maybe a kilo.... Andre -- " I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. " The Man Prayer, Red Green. |
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"Terrell Miller" wrote in message ... "Pat Flannery" wrote in message ... As a piece of pro-NASA propaganda, the thing is great. NASA is always right, and if it does make mistakes they weren't due to any fundamental problems at NASA, no siree! It was those stinking reporters, and meddling Congressmen that are to blame... Tom Hanks' movies tend to resemble Frank Kapra's - nice, and sweet, and wholesome, and more than a bit simplistic and saccharine, and sappy. erm...Philadelphia? Saving Private Ryan? Is that the one where his gumbo boat is rigged up to become invisible, and he gets transported to France with is friend Wilson? |
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"Andre Lieven" wrote in message ... Pat Flannery ) writes: Andre Lieven wrote: Having seen the series on both VHS and DVD ( Owning the latter ), I would heartily recommend the DVD set. Since the recordings are on two VHS tapes that I already had recorded other things on (Bye-bye "The Blue Angel" with May Britt and Curt Jurgens*) the effective price of this operation was zero, other than the electricity used to run the VCR recorder. Lord knows that I'm tight with a buck, at times, but there are other times, and things, for which the wallet needs to be loosened, some. Geesh, I'm ready to setup a s.s.h fund for Pat and pitch in and buy him the damn DVDs. |
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Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote: Geesh, I'm ready to setup a s.s.h fund for Pat and pitch in and buy him the damn DVDs. Actually, having watched it all, I doubt I'll ever get around to watching the tapes for a very long time, if ever. The thing is a little too NASA PAO like in its "gosh, gee-whizz" Tom Hanks approach, but fascinating as a piece of propaganda work. Speaking of "gosh, gee-whizz" things, Jeffrey Bell wrote an interesting article on how he got from Space Cadet to Space Critic: http://www.spacedaily.com/news/oped-04zq.html I found the part about the Aldridge Commission phone call particularly interesting. Not unexpected, considering the amount of money wrapped up in the new Bush space initiative in regards to the aerospace industry, and the administration's basic operating procedure that if you are not one hundred percent with them, then you are a dangerous threat....but interesting none the less. And like Jeffrey Bell, I also have a copy of "The High Frontier" lying around from the the good old days when everything was possible....as long as you didn't look at the math any too hard. ;-) Pat |
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Dale ) writes: On 24 Dec 2004 03:24:12 GMT, (Andre Lieven) wrote: * And Curt Jurgens played Wernher von Braun in "I Aim At The Stars"... I'll have a pound of what you're smokin'... :-) Maybe a kilo.... Wow, you really do open up the old wallet when it's important, huh? LOL. Yep. g Andre -- " I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. " The Man Prayer, Red Green. |
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