Pres. Kerry's NASA

What will President Kerry do with NASA? My guess is that
he will want to dump the Bush Moon/Mars plans ASAP, but
will he be able to stop CEV and the end of Shuttle?

- Ed Kyle

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What will President Kerry do with NASA? My guess is that
he will want to dump the Bush Moon/Mars plans ASAP, but
will he be able to stop CEV and the end of Shuttle?

- Ed Kyle

That's the assumption, though many people thought that Clinton would cancel
the space station in 1993 and he did not.

My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in space under a
Kerry administration, sooner or later. It's pretty clear that regardless of
what some people might want, we can't keep the shuttles flying for more than
about ten years in any case. So without something like the Bush plan to
replace the shuttles, we'll see the triumph of Robert Park's "robots uber
alles" additude.

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What will President Kerry do with NASA? My guess is that
he will want to dump the Bush Moon/Mars plans ASAP, but
will he be able to stop CEV and the end of Shuttle?

- Ed Kyle

That's the assumption, though many people thought that Clinton would cancel
the space station in 1993 and he did not.

My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in space under a
Kerry administration, sooner or later.
I dont think he would have means to stop X-Prize or Space Adventures.
Americans could still go to space.

-kert

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What will President Kerry do with NASA? My guess is that
he will want to dump the Bush Moon/Mars plans ASAP, but
will he be able to stop CEV and the end of Shuttle?

- Ed Kyle

That's the assumption, though many people thought that Clinton would
cancel
the space station in 1993 and he did not.

My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in space
under a
Kerry administration, sooner or later.
I dont think he would have means to stop X-Prize or Space Adventures.
Americans could still go to space.

-kert

Don't be too sure about that. I do not think Kerry would exert himself too
much to pass regulatory or tax incentives for private space travel. Also, he
is quite capable of forbidding travel to the Moon or Mars out of
environmental reasons.

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What will President Kerry do with NASA? My guess is that
he will want to dump the Bush Moon/Mars plans ASAP, but
will he be able to stop CEV and the end of Shuttle?

- Ed Kyle

That's the assumption, though many people thought that Clinton would
cancel
the space station in 1993 and he did not.

My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in space
under a
Kerry administration, sooner or later.
I dont think he would have means to stop X-Prize or Space Adventures.
Americans could still go to space.

-kert

Don't be too sure about that. I do not think Kerry would exert himself too
much to pass regulatory or tax incentives for private space travel. Also, he
is quite capable of forbidding travel to the Moon or Mars out of
environmental reasons.

Yes, but he couldn't cancel CEV. By this time next year it will have
tremendous politcal momentum as Project Constellation and will no more
be able to be stopped than Kerry and Kennedy's Big Dig.

Tom Merkle

Don't be too sure about that. I do not think Kerry would exert himself too
much to pass regulatory or tax incentives for private space travel. Also, he
is quite capable of forbidding travel to the Moon or Mars out of
environmental reasons.

Bush, on the other hand, would find it completely reasonable to ban private launchers in the name of Homeland Security. And under
Bush II there soon wouldn't be any government launches: with a borrow-and-spend Republican Congress the US would soon be bankrupt.

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What will President Kerry do with NASA? My guess is that
he will want to dump the Bush Moon/Mars plans ASAP, but
will he be able to stop CEV and the end of Shuttle?

- Ed Kyle

That's the assumption, though many people thought that Clinton would

cancel

the space station in 1993 and he did not.

My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in space

under a

Kerry administration, sooner or later.

I dont think he would have means to stop X-Prize or Space Adventures.
Americans could still go to space.

-kert


Don't be too sure about that. I do not think Kerry would exert himself too
much to pass regulatory or tax incentives for private space travel. Also, he
is quite capable of forbidding travel to the Moon or Mars out of
environmental reasons.




Environmental reasons? The Moon and Mars? Could you explain this in more
detail?

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What will President Kerry do with NASA? My guess is that
he will want to dump the Bush Moon/Mars plans ASAP, but
will he be able to stop CEV and the end of Shuttle?

- Ed Kyle

That's the assumption, though many people thought that Clinton would

cancel

the space station in 1993 and he did not.

My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in space

under a

Kerry administration, sooner or later.

I dont think he would have means to stop X-Prize or Space Adventures.
Americans could still go to space.

-kert


Don't be too sure about that. I do not think Kerry would exert himself
too
much to pass regulatory or tax incentives for private space travel.
Also, he
is quite capable of forbidding travel to the Moon or Mars out of
environmental reasons.




Environmental reasons? The Moon and Mars? Could you explain this in more
detail?


There's already a line of thought in the environmental movement that humans
should be barred from celestrial bodies in order to preserve their
environments. Robert Park, the "robots uber alles" advocate, is hitting on
this theme.

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My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in
space
under a Kerry administration, sooner or later.

I dont think he would have means to stop X-Prize or Space
Adventures.
Americans could still go to space.

Don't be too sure about that. I do not think Kerry would exert himself too
much to pass regulatory or tax incentives for private space travel.

Has the current Administration exerted itself to pass regulatory or
tax incentives? Ever since the Bush speech, supporters of the new
policy (including NASA watchers and curmudgeon bloggers) have taken to
dissing the idea that private enterprise might be a viable
alternative. Kerry probably wouldn't be any more supportive of
commercial space, but realistically, could he be any less?

Also, he is quite capable of forbidding travel to the Moon or Mars out of
environmental reasons.

Interesting (if a bit paranoid). Do you expect there will be
commercial travel to the Moon or Mars in the next eight years? (Kerry
won't be able to forbid anything after he leaves office.) That's at
least five years before Project Constellation is scheduled to land on
the Moon, isn't it?

My guess is that we would probably see the end of Americans in space under a
Kerry administration, sooner or later. It's pretty clear that regardless of
what some people might want, we can't keep the shuttles flying for more than
about ten years in any case. So without something like the Bush plan to
replace the shuttles, we'll see the triumph of Robert Park's "robots uber
alles" additude.

Kerry is often compared to Kennedy, but that's Edward (Ted), not John. And who
is Edward Kennedy to us? A big nobody who for some strange reason the people of
Massachusetts keep on reelecting to the Senate. Has Edward Kennedy proposed any
bold new space visions like his brother? Of course not, he's much too modest to
do anything like that. If there's anything John F. Kennedy will be remembered
for, its the Apollo program that achieved Mankinds first landing on the Moon.
that's what I learned the first time I heard of John F. Kennedy. The Cuban
Missile Crisis I learned of later, but that's a non-event because nothing
happened, nothing was achieved either except a resumption of the status quo
that existed prior to that crisis. There is the Peace Corps, and the fact that
he got assassinated. That's about it. Its too bad that Ted Kennedy doesn't want
to emphasize the Moon program because that's JFK's main claim to fame, that's
like talking about Abe Lincoln but refusing to mention the Civil War or the
Abolition of Slavery.

Tom