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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:59:15 -0700, "Hägar" wrote:
"G=EMC^2" wrote in message ... Its a nice sphere. If blown from Earth lots of good physics would keep it from ending up so round. Think about the reasons TeBet *** Here's a little something for idiots like yourself and that other dumb-ass GuthBall ... what the hell, let's throw Painintheass into the mix as well, you all possess the same mental deficiency genes: http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html You just won't let it alone, will you. Yes sirree! The Giant Impact Hypothesis! I. Velikovsky would be so proud! Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gentle Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan." |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On 10/24/2012 7:17 AM, Painius wrote:
Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gay Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. A quick study on orbital mechanics quickly puts the lie to your argument for a Gay Capture Theory. Sorry. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo .. å˜äº® http://www.richardgingras.com/tia/im...logo_large.jpg |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Oct 24, 7:17*am, Painius wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:59:15 -0700, "H gar" wrote: "G=EMC^2" wrote in message ... Its a nice sphere. If blown from Earth lots of good physics would keep it from ending up so round. *Think about the reasons *TeBet *** Here's a little something for idiots like yourself and that other dumb-ass GuthBall ... what the hell, let's throw Painintheass into the mix as well, you all possess the same mental deficiency genes: http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html You just won't let it alone, will you. Yes sirree! *The Giant Impact Hypothesis! I. Velikovsky would be so proud! Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gentle Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. *The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. *When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. *The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. *At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. *Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. *As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. *Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. *After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. *Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. *As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. *Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan." Painius Had an object hit the Earth and sent the rocks dust,and all that stuff out into space it would have cooled in seconds. Best all this could have done would be to create a ring around the Earth.I'm sure this is how the other 4 planets with rings got theirs. Jupiter proves this. It has 61 moons,and a ring. All were captured(including the ring) Io,Europa,Callisto,and Ganymede. All are different to some degree. Io is the most volcanic world in the solar system. Reason for all those volcanoes is its only 262,000 miles out from Jupiter's great gravity force(2.3 gee)(WOW) Capture works for all planets with moons,and Earth is no exception. Its simple Its reality. TreBert |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Oct 24, 4:17*am, Painius wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:59:15 -0700, "H gar" wrote: "G=EMC^2" wrote in message ... Its a nice sphere. If blown from Earth lots of good physics would keep it from ending up so round. *Think about the reasons *TeBet *** Here's a little something for idiots like yourself and that other dumb-ass GuthBall ... what the hell, let's throw Painintheass into the mix as well, you all possess the same mental deficiency genes: http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html You just won't let it alone, will you. Yes sirree! *The Giant Impact Hypothesis! I. Velikovsky would be so proud! Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gentle Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. *The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. *When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. *The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. *At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. *Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. *As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. *Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. *After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. *Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. *As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. *Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan." Your version of a very gradual and non-contact or soft capture method seems doable, although it doesn't explain the how, where and when that 2500 km diameter crater was formed, nor the how and when our Arctic ocean basin got formed, and not to mention the Antarctic continent that seems as though rather antipode formed instead of a tectonic forced process. Your soft capture idea also doesn't uncover as to how that moon got such an extremely thick and paramagnetic basalt crust, especially when the average crust of Venus probably isn't worth half that of what Earth has to work with, and our moon offers at least twice and even three fold what average crust thickness is that of our planet. How does an ocean mass of water that only gradually materialized over a billion years, which offers only 1 g/cm3 density manage to cause 3+ g/cm3 of fused and extremely tough basalt to sink or morph and leaving but less than a 5 km crust thickness from the always molten rock below? Not a soul in Usenet/newsgroups (including yourself) can stipulate with any objective certainty as to when Earth got its latest seasonal tilt, nor what triggered the sudden ice-age thaw as of 11,712 years ago (as having been confirmed by multiple ice core samples taken from around the world). You and all others combined also can't seem to find any old cave art depicting our enormous and extremely nighttime vibrant moon or even that of seasons depicted as of prior to 11,712 years ago, and not that extremely good examples of much older cave art with more than sufficient resolution depicting a whole lot smaller details of far less important context doesn't exist. http://groups.google.com/groups/search http://translate.google.com/# Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Oct 24, 5:48*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 24, 7:17*am, Painius wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:59:15 -0700, "H gar" wrote: "G=EMC^2" wrote in message .... Its a nice sphere. If blown from Earth lots of good physics would keep it from ending up so round. *Think about the reasons *TeBet *** Here's a little something for idiots like yourself and that other dumb-ass GuthBall ... what the hell, let's throw Painintheass into the mix as well, you all possess the same mental deficiency genes: http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html You just won't let it alone, will you. Yes sirree! *The Giant Impact Hypothesis! I. Velikovsky would be so proud! Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gentle Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. *The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. *When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. *The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. *At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. *Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. *As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. *Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. *After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. *Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. *As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. *Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan." Painius *Had an object hit the Earth and sent the rocks dust,and all that stuff out into space it would have cooled in seconds. Best all this could have done would be to create a ring around the Earth.I'm sure this is how the other 4 planets with rings got theirs. *Jupiter proves this. It has 61 moons,and a ring. *All were captured(including the ring) Io,Europa,Callisto,and Ganymede. All are different to some degree. Io is the most volcanic world in the solar system. Reason for all those volcanoes is its only 262,000 miles out from Jupiter's great gravity force(2.3 gee)(WOW) * Capture works for all planets with moons,and Earth is no exception. Its simple Its reality. *TreBert Several of those moons are also retrograde, which by itself blows the idea of moon creation from the random happenstance of orbiting debris. Various methods of captures are the most likely, and especially the case for gas giants that couldn't have supplied enough from their own mass to have given that orbiting debris method of creating moons from scratch. There's no objective proof that Earth wasn't captured, although unlikely. There is objective proof of planets and planetoids as surviving horrific impacts, and there is objective proof that planets have moons. |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Oct 24, 9:34*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Oct 24, 4:17*am, Painius wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:59:15 -0700, "H gar" wrote: "G=EMC^2" wrote in message .... Its a nice sphere. If blown from Earth lots of good physics would keep it from ending up so round. *Think about the reasons *TeBet *** Here's a little something for idiots like yourself and that other dumb-ass GuthBall ... what the hell, let's throw Painintheass into the mix as well, you all possess the same mental deficiency genes: http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html You just won't let it alone, will you. Yes sirree! *The Giant Impact Hypothesis! I. Velikovsky would be so proud! Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gentle Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. *The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. *When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. *The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. *At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. *Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. *As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. *Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. *After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. *Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. *As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. *Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan." Your version of a very gradual and non-contact or soft capture method seems doable, although it doesn't explain the how, where and when that 2500 km diameter crater was formed, nor the how and when our Arctic ocean basin got formed, and not to mention the Antarctic continent that seems as though rather antipode formed instead of a tectonic forced process. Your soft capture idea also doesn't uncover as to how that moon got such an extremely thick and paramagnetic basalt crust, especially when the average crust of Venus probably isn't worth half that of what Earth has to work with, and our moon offers at least twice and even three fold what average crust thickness is that of our planet. How does an ocean mass of water that only gradually materialized over a billion years, which offers only 1 g/cm3 density manage to cause 3+ g/cm3 of fused and extremely tough basalt to sink or morph and leaving but less than a 5 km crust thickness from the always molten rock below? Not a soul in Usenet/newsgroups (including yourself) can stipulate with any objective certainty as to when Earth got its latest seasonal tilt, nor what triggered the sudden ice-age thaw as of 11,712 years ago (as having been confirmed by multiple ice core samples taken from around the world). You and all others combined also can't seem to find any old cave art depicting our enormous and extremely nighttime vibrant moon or even that of seasons depicted as of prior to 11,712 years ago, and not that extremely good examples of much older cave art with more than sufficient resolution depicting a whole lot smaller details of far less important context doesn't exist. *http://groups.google.com/groups/search *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Uranius was hit hard,and all its big 5 moons were captured.Their close in orbits also prove capture. They are all different,and that tells it all TeBet |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Oct 24, 7:12*am, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Oct 24, 9:34*am, Brad Guth wrote: On Oct 24, 4:17*am, Painius wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:59:15 -0700, "H gar" wrote: "G=EMC^2" wrote in message ... Its a nice sphere. If blown from Earth lots of good physics would keep it from ending up so round. *Think about the reasons *TeBet *** Here's a little something for idiots like yourself and that other dumb-ass GuthBall ... what the hell, let's throw Painintheass into the mix as well, you all possess the same mental deficiency genes: http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html You just won't let it alone, will you. Yes sirree! *The Giant Impact Hypothesis! I. Velikovsky would be so proud! Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gentle Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. *The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. *When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. *The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. *At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. *Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. *As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. *Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. *After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. *Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. *As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. *Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to bitch and moan." Your version of a very gradual and non-contact or soft capture method seems doable, although it doesn't explain the how, where and when that 2500 km diameter crater was formed, nor the how and when our Arctic ocean basin got formed, and not to mention the Antarctic continent that seems as though rather antipode formed instead of a tectonic forced process. Your soft capture idea also doesn't uncover as to how that moon got such an extremely thick and paramagnetic basalt crust, especially when the average crust of Venus probably isn't worth half that of what Earth has to work with, and our moon offers at least twice and even three fold what average crust thickness is that of our planet. How does an ocean mass of water that only gradually materialized over a billion years, which offers only 1 g/cm3 density manage to cause 3+ g/cm3 of fused and extremely tough basalt to sink or morph and leaving but less than a 5 km crust thickness from the always molten rock below? Not a soul in Usenet/newsgroups (including yourself) can stipulate with any objective certainty as to when Earth got its latest seasonal tilt, nor what triggered the sudden ice-age thaw as of 11,712 years ago (as having been confirmed by multiple ice core samples taken from around the world). You and all others combined also can't seem to find any old cave art depicting our enormous and extremely nighttime vibrant moon or even that of seasons depicted as of prior to 11,712 years ago, and not that extremely good examples of much older cave art with more than sufficient resolution depicting a whole lot smaller details of far less important context doesn't exist. *http://groups.google.com/groups/search *http://translate.google.com/# *Brad Guth,Brad_Guth,Brad.Guth,BradGuth,BG,Guth Usenet/”Guth Venus” Uranius was hit hard,and all its big 5 moons were captured.Their close in orbits also prove capture. They are all different,and that tells it all *TeBet I agree, that the vast majority of moons are captured items rather than made in place from orbiting debris. |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On 10/24/2012 9:34 AM, Brad Guth wrote:
Your version of a very gradual and non-contact or soft capture method seems doable The best name for it is the Gay Capture Theory. Your soft capture *(Gay Capture)* idea also doesn't uncover as to how that moon got such an extremely thick and paramagnetic basalt crust, especially when the average crust of Venus probably isn't worth half that of what Earth has to work with, and our moon offers at least twice and even three fold what average crust thickness is that of our planet. -- "OK you ****s, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjO7kBqTFqo .. å˜äº® http://www.richardgingras.com/tia/im...logo_large.jpg |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 08:10:27 -0400, HVAC wrote:
On 10/24/2012 7:17 AM, Painius wrote: Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gay Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. A quick study on orbital mechanics quickly puts the lie to your argument for a Gay Capture Theory. Sorry. If you really knew the first thing about orbital mechanics, then you would be happy to explain how that science "puts the lie" to my argument. Instead, all you can do is make fun of it, because you truly don't understand it - or science itself, for that matter. You truly do humiliate yourself and make yourself a laughingstock each and every time you post to UseNet. What a hootingly gay caballero you are, Harlow! LMFBO ! -- Indelibly yours, Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Either this thread is dead or my watch has stopped." |
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Proof The Moon was Captured
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT), Brad Guth
wrote: On Oct 24, 4:17*am, Painius wrote: On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 06:59:15 -0700, "H gar" wrote: "G=EMC^2" wrote in message ... Its a nice sphere. If blown from Earth lots of good physics would keep it from ending up so round. *Think about the reasons *TeBet *** Here's a little something for idiots like yourself and that other dumb-ass GuthBall ... what the hell, let's throw Painintheass into the mix as well, you all possess the same mental deficiency genes: http://www.psi.edu/epo/moon/moon.html You just won't let it alone, will you. Yes sirree! *The Giant Impact Hypothesis! I. Velikovsky would be so proud! Here is yet another possibility - the GCH: In the Gentle Capture Hypothesis (GCH), the Moon formed in almost the same orbit as the Earth. *The Earth was out front at first and absorbed nearly all of the iron and other good stuff, while the trailing Moon absorbed only the dregs. The Earth's and Moon's Solar orbits were so close together that it took a very long time for the Earth to finally come all the way back around and catch up to the Moon. *When it did catch up, as it approached the Moon, it gently captured (and was captured by) the smaller orb. *The Moon then began a slow and steady scalloped orbit with the Earth around the Sun... http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...ng/convex.html At first, the Moon was a distance from Earth that was just a little farther than the Roche limit, so it did not break up from tidal pressures. *At that time the Earth and Moon rotated very fast - a day on Earth back then was a bit less than 8 hours long. *Due to tidal friction, both Earth's and Moon's spin slowed down. *As they slowed their spin speeds, the Moon also got a little farther away from Earth each year. *Later, the Moon's rotation speed slowed to a point where it was synchronized, "tidal locked" with Earth. *After that, the Moon always showed the same face toward the Earth. Ever since the Earth's and Moon's gentle capture of each other, and down to the present day, the Earth and Moon have exchanged places each month in their orbits around the Sun. *Part of the month finds the Moon closer to the Sun, and the other part of the month the Earth is closer to the Sun. *As they slowly change their relative orbital positions, at one point the Earth is out in front and leads the Moon around the Sun. *Then about two weeks later, the Earth lags and the Moon goes out in front. The Earth-Moon orbital relationship - It's not your father's two-body problem anymore. Your version of a very gradual and non-contact or soft capture method seems doable, although it doesn't explain the how, where and when that 2500 km diameter crater was formed, nor the how and when our Arctic ocean basin got formed, and not to mention the Antarctic continent that seems as though rather antipode formed instead of a tectonic forced process. The scientific answers to those questions are well-known, Brad. The craters on the Moon, as well as those found on Earth that haven't been obliterated by the effects of time, happened after the Earth and Moon had formed together. There was still quite a bit of smaller debris flying around the Solar system. The Moon actually acted as a protector for the Earth. The Moon's gravitation would see to it that most of those small objects would hit it before they had a chance to hit the Earth. The other science you need to look at is "plate tectonics". It will show you that the Arctic basin formed as the land mass broke up and the newly formed continents began to spread out from each other. Your soft capture idea also doesn't uncover as to how that moon got such an extremely thick and paramagnetic basalt crust, especially when the average crust of Venus probably isn't worth half that of what Earth has to work with, and our moon offers at least twice and even three fold what average crust thickness is that of our planet. The makeup of the surface of the Moon is almost exactly the same as the makeup of the Earth's crust. That is one reason why the Giant Impact Hypothesis can be compelling to many scientists. To me, the similar crust makeups of Earth and Moon, coupled together with the fact that the Moon has very little iron, and the fact that Earth has the lion's share of the iron, supports my proposal extremely well. How does an ocean mass of water that only gradually materialized over a billion years, which offers only 1 g/cm3 density manage to cause 3+ g/cm3 of fused and extremely tough basalt to sink or morph and leaving but less than a 5 km crust thickness from the always molten rock below? Now that's an excellent question. I've always wondered how the ocean waters stay above that crust and don't seep down and disappear from the surface. Not a soul in Usenet/newsgroups (including yourself) can stipulate with any objective certainty as to when Earth got its latest seasonal tilt, nor what triggered the sudden ice-age thaw as of 11,712 years ago (as having been confirmed by multiple ice core samples taken from around the world). You're correct, because there has not been a way found to objectively determine when and how the seasonal tilt came about, nor how multiple ice ages in the last 2 million years or so came to be and then thawed out. Before that, the Earth's climate had been pretty stable for at least 20 million years. More evidence is being gathered and studied as we speak. You and all others combined also can't seem to find any old cave art depicting our enormous and extremely nighttime vibrant moon or even that of seasons depicted as of prior to 11,712 years ago, and not that extremely good examples of much older cave art with more than sufficient resolution depicting a whole lot smaller details of far less important context doesn't exist. Well, I told you about the cave art I studied at the National Museum in Nairobi, Kenya. You can choose to believe or disbelieve, but I know what I saw with my own eyes. -- Indelibly yours, Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/ "Either this thread is dead or my watch has stopped." |
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