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Old October 3rd 06, 07:59 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
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Ken from Chicago wrote:
"Stephen Fairchild" wrote in message
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Bob Kolker wrote:

Steven L. wrote:


If Mars also turns out to be lifeless, it will be hard to get Americans
excited even about sending humans there. Ironically, science fiction
has raised the bar for the average American: Alien life is now almost
taken for granted, and that's what I think that most folks to hear
about: Where are the alien life forms?

Nowhere nearby. Almost certainly not in our solar system. But that is
not sufficient reason not to go exploring. They may be other more
relevent issues such as costs and payback.

The Spaniards (for example) did not go a-sailing over the main just to
see what was on the Other Side. They had gold and converts to
Catholicism in mind. Those were the coins of their realm. The itch to
travel and explore may be motivated the captains and crews, but it was
potential profit and plunder that motivated the monarchs to fund them.

If the tax payers are going to be mugged to fund space explorations they
have every right to asked about the rewards and payback.

Apart from mining the asteroid belt I can't see much plunder out there.
--
Stephen Fairchild


That's why you should have ROBOTIC space exploration and space mining.


I can't help thinking of Christopher Columbus as being a 15th century
robot. This Monday won't be the same!


Tho later that could lead to human space COLONIZATION.


Yes, explore first and then colonize later.

Eric


-- Ken from Chicago


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Old October 3rd 06, 08:41 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
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??? No imagination....


What do you propose? The only other place in the solar system with a
decent amount of water is the moon Europa.

Bob Kolker
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Old October 3rd 06, 09:12 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
William December Starr
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In article ,
said:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:44:12 +0100, Stephen Fairchild
wrote:

Apart from mining the asteroid belt I can't see much plunder
out there.


??? No imagination....


So, what do _you_ imagine?

--
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Old October 3rd 06, 09:19 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
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In article ,
William December Starr wrote:
In article ,
said:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 11:44:12 +0100, Stephen Fairchild
wrote:

Apart from mining the asteroid belt I can't see much plunder
out there.


??? No imagination....


So, what do _you_ imagine?


The Daleks are waiting out there for signals from their terrestrial agent
George W. Bush.
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Old October 3rd 06, 09:22 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
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"Bob Kolker" wrote in message
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Ken from Chicago wrote:

FIREFLY, BATTLESTAR GALACTICA: TNS and much of Asimovian fiction would
dispute the inherent boredom of a human-only universe.


These universes are Business As Usual on a grander scale. But human
struggle and failure has always been interesting. Why do newspapers sell?
Because they contain bad news.


Because they contain stories about Paris Hilton and Anna Nicole Smith.


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Old October 3rd 06, 09:29 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
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"Steven L." wrote in message
If Mars also turns out to be lifeless, it will be hard to get Americans
excited even about sending humans there. Ironically, science fiction has
raised the bar for the average American: Alien life is now almost taken
for granted, and that's what I think that most folks to hear about: Where
are the alien life forms?


You obviously have not been to San Francisco recently.


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Old October 3rd 06, 09:32 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
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"DaffyDuck" wrote in message
news:2006100300011516807-daffyduck@spammersdiemacdotcom...
On 2006-10-02 21:35:54 -0700, "Steven L."
said:

But now we know they don't.


Well, we do not *know* they don't, and there's still other candidates out
there, including Europe ("Attempt no landing there..."), and the old
standby being Mars - which harbors some serious hopes for there being life
there, as it has seasons, it has sub-surface water, etc..

One thing I do like about the BSG universe, is that the only life within
it, is our protagonists' - no funky aliens, no odd lifeforms (albeit we're
about to find a sick basestar, which may be an interesting arc)

Agreed on what 'turns on' people to spacetravel, and that if we find no
life, there won't be much glory and glamor in going out into space.


Wow, I couldn't *possibly* disagree more. I find the idea of setting up
space colonies immensely facinating, and, if I were offered the chance to
go, I would take it in a New York minute.


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Old October 3rd 06, 09:51 PM posted to sci.space.policy,rec.arts.sf.tv,alt.tv.star-trek.tos,alt.battlestar-galactica,alt.tv.firefly
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"Marcovaldo" wrote in message
...
"DaffyDuck" wrote in message
news:2006100300011516807-daffyduck@spammersdiemacdotcom...
On 2006-10-02 21:35:54 -0700, "Steven L."
said:

But now we know they don't.


Well, we do not *know* they don't, and there's still other candidates

out
there, including Europe ("Attempt no landing there..."), and the old
standby being Mars - which harbors some serious hopes for there being

life
there, as it has seasons, it has sub-surface water, etc..

One thing I do like about the BSG universe, is that the only life within
it, is our protagonists' - no funky aliens, no odd lifeforms (albeit

we're
about to find a sick basestar, which may be an interesting arc)

Agreed on what 'turns on' people to spacetravel, and that if we find no
life, there won't be much glory and glamor in going out into space.


Wow, I couldn't *possibly* disagree more. I find the idea of setting up
space colonies immensely facinating, and, if I were offered the chance to
go, I would take it in a New York minute.


....or a New New York minute...

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