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Old May 31st 08, 08:58 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

On Sat, 31 May 2008 19:41:11 GMT, in a place far, far away, David
Johnston made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

On Sat, 31 May 2008 06:32:50 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
wrote:

An excellent indication that the Earth has never encountered an "icy
proto-Moon.


There's nothing excellent or otherwise about it. What are you? (going
on 50 but still less than a 5th grader, and a Zionist to boot)

And your fully 3D interactive simulator is offering whatever
proves ????


I have no such thing.


Is there some good reason(s) why DARPA folks like yourself are so
deathly afraid to run this kind of simulation within our public owned
supercomputers?


Is there some reason why you accuse everyone who thinks that you are
an idiot of working for DARPA?


Yes, there is. In case you haven't noticed, he's out of his mind.
Please stop encouraging him.
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Old May 31st 08, 09:26 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

On May 31, 12:41 pm, David Johnston wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2008 06:32:50 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth

wrote:
An excellent indication that the Earth has never encountered an "icy
proto-Moon.


There's nothing excellent or otherwise about it. What are you? (going
on 50 but still less than a 5th grader, and a Zionist to boot)


And your fully 3D interactive simulator is offering whatever
proves ????


I have no such thing.


Be sure to let us know when you do.


Is there some good reason(s) why DARPA folks like yourself are so
deathly afraid to run this kind of simulation within our public owned
supercomputers?


Is there some reason why you accuse everyone who thinks that you are
an idiot of working for DARPA? DARPA only employs about 140 people.


OK, if you can actually believe in whatever our government records
have to offer (obviously you'll believe in anything government
published), but lo and behold they're mostly Zionist/Nazi types within
DARPA, and as such they get to spend as much of our hard earned loot
with no accounting or other strings attached. They also have an
unlimited supply of brown-nosed clowns and throughly dumbfounded
minions like yourself.
.. - Brad Guth
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Old May 31st 08, 09:32 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

On May 31, 3:24*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On May 29, 10:14 am, David Johnston wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth


wrote:
Darwin123 wrote:


* * *Two body collisions, involving Newtonian gravity and rigid
bodies, can never result in one body capturing the other in orbit.


What's rigid about our 98.5% fluid Earth, along with having perhaps as
great as 10 fold greater atmospheric density as of that era,


If the atmosphere density was that much greater there would be no
macroscopic life left afterward.


If that's what your simulation has to say, then so be it. *We look
forwards to having a look-see at those complex though impressive
computer simulated results.

BTW; *Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin.

*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin
*http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aitken_clem_big.gif

Our moon’s South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently
only 13 km deep, offers a perfectly darn good example of the
relatively shallow nature of such a horrific impact, as most likely
moderated in depth due to the moon’s thick coating of surface ice that
existed prior to the lithobraking encounter with Earth.

Of several other largest of craters are approximately 10% as
impressive, or roughly 200 km in diameter and equally shallow.

In order to have produced the South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km would
also have required an impact with something of considerably larger
diameter, such as Earth or possibly Mars got in the way before that
moon arrived at Earth.

Once again, a good supercomputer could have nicely simulated this type
of multiple encounters with such an icy proto-moon or icy planetoid
that was merging with our solar system after being red giant phase
ejected from the complex Sirius-A/B star/solar system that had
recently burned through 4x solar mass upon converting Sirius-B into
that white dwarf.

Of course, for all we know, Earth or at least Venus may also have been
deployed into orbiting Sol by way of that same analogy.
. – Brad Guth


Just wondering if the "old" Schumann wavelength would have been
considerably altered enough to cause a "2012 event" (aka "Nibiru")
interceding, but in subversion to "constructing a foundation" for
mysterious events such as "tachyon grid shifting", during a "perfect
eclipse". I mean, ever notice how perfectly the moon "fits" right over
the sun during a total lunar eclipse? (Maybe that's too obvious for
some to take notice). If I am correct in assuming, you are a "Big
Bang" proponent.

So if you are a "Big Bang" proponent, then this means that a "time
traveler" into the past will reach an endpoint, that "point" being set
by the limits of his machinery to withstand the ultimate compression
of spacetime, and incidentally, a "spacetime" where the speed of light
was a great deal "faster" than it is today. So IMO ultimately, a point
will be reached that this "spacetime" will, because of "universal
symmetry" or "supersymmetry" (also a GUT phenomenon) IMPLODE INTO
itself, and then outward again, into some counter-rotated form, where
the "Big Bang" process starts all over again.

Why not imagine that, rather than having a single "Big Bang", there
are similar micro-spacetime "micro-bangs" occurring at some quantum
level, every instant, everywhere, in our "present" universe? If this
were the case, then I surmise that there are real, "parallel"
universes that are also "supersymmetric" to the ones that we are
currently "sequestered" to.


American
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Old May 31st 08, 10:56 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

In article
,
American wrote:


Just wondering if the "old" Schumann wavelength would have been
considerably altered enough to cause a "2012 event" (aka "Nibiru")
interceding, but in subversion to "constructing a foundation" for
mysterious events such as "tachyon grid shifting", during a "perfect
eclipse". I mean, ever notice how perfectly the moon "fits" right over
the sun during a total lunar eclipse? (Maybe that's too obvious for
some to take notice). If I am correct in assuming, you are a "Big
Bang" proponent.

So if you are a "Big Bang" proponent, then this means that a "time
traveler" into the past will reach an endpoint, that "point" being set
by the limits of his machinery to withstand the ultimate compression
of spacetime, and incidentally, a "spacetime" where the speed of light
was a great deal "faster" than it is today. So IMO ultimately, a point
will be reached that this "spacetime" will, because of "universal
symmetry" or "supersymmetry" (also a GUT phenomenon) IMPLODE INTO
itself, and then outward again, into some counter-rotated form, where
the "Big Bang" process starts all over again.

Why not imagine that, rather than having a single "Big Bang", there
are similar micro-spacetime "micro-bangs" occurring at some quantum
level, every instant, everywhere, in our "present" universe? If this
were the case, then I surmise that there are real, "parallel"
universes that are also "supersymmetric" to the ones that we are
currently "sequestered" to.


The most "notable" thing about your "essay" is the "superfluous" use of
"quotation marks" throughout. It's "difficult" to tell whether you're
using them as "scare quotes" or as "emphasis". The first "possibility"
simply means that you place "quotation marks" around things you want to
imply "doubt" about in the reader's "mind". The second "possibility" is
that you are using the "quotation" marks not to delineate "what someone
said" but simply to make people pay more "attention" to the specific
words you thing are "important".

What does an ancient Sumerian legend mistaken as a prophecy have to do
with solar eclipses and the big bang? Do you not believe that the "Big
Bang" happened? Are you "familiar" with the "evidence" for the "Big
Bang"? Do you think that your little pet "hypothesis" about multiple
"Big Bangs" is new?

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emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
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Old June 1st 08, 12:18 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

On May 31, 5:56*pm, Timberwoof
wrote:
In article
,



*American wrote:
Just wondering if the "old" Schumann wavelength would have been
considerably altered enough to cause a "2012 event" (aka "Nibiru")
interceding, but in subversion to "constructing a foundation" for
mysterious events such as "tachyon grid shifting", during a "perfect
eclipse". I mean, ever notice how perfectly the moon "fits" right over
the sun during a total lunar eclipse? (Maybe that's too obvious for
some to take notice). *If I am correct in assuming, you are a "Big
Bang" proponent.


So if you are a "Big Bang" proponent, then this means that a "time
traveler" into the past will reach an endpoint, that "point" being set
by the limits of his machinery to withstand the ultimate compression
of spacetime, and incidentally, a "spacetime" where the speed of light
was a great deal "faster" than it is today. So IMO ultimately, a point
will be reached that this "spacetime" will, because of "universal
symmetry" or "supersymmetry" (also a GUT phenomenon) IMPLODE INTO
itself, and then outward again, into some counter-rotated form, where
the "Big Bang" process starts all over again.


Why not imagine that, rather than having a single "Big Bang", there
are similar micro-spacetime "micro-bangs" occurring at some quantum
level, every instant, everywhere, in our "present" universe? If this
were the case, then I surmise that there are real, "parallel"
universes that are also "supersymmetric" to the ones that we are
currently "sequestered" to.


The most "notable" thing about your "essay" is the "superfluous" use of
"quotation marks" throughout. It's "difficult" to tell whether you're
using them as "scare quotes" or as "emphasis". The first "possibility"
simply means that you place "quotation marks" around things you want to
imply "doubt" about in the reader's "mind". The second "possibility" is
that you are using the "quotation" marks not to delineate "what someone
said" but simply to make people pay more "attention" to the specific
words you thing are "important".

What does an ancient Sumerian legend mistaken as a prophecy have to do
with solar eclipses and the big bang? Do you not believe that the "Big
Bang" happened? Are you "familiar" with the "evidence" for the "Big
Bang"? Do you think that your little pet "hypothesis" about multiple
"Big Bangs" is new?

--
Timberwoof me at timberwoof dot comhttp://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.


Too bad that the absence of italics formed text puts google software
back in the luddite category. (I could do without the exaggerated
dramatization of the non-italicized lingo) Quotations DO seem to be
somewhat "superflous" - sort of like "eyebrows" that are supposed to
be "raised" everytime they're being used.

As to your alluding to the fact that some "ancient Sumerian legend" (I
put quotes around these words to emphasize that they are "yours"), I'm
under the impression that this idea (legend mistaken as a prophecy)
makes one believe that certain FACTS are being misconstrued in order
to interfere with the actual purpose and design of this habitable part
of the galaxy as being more by "accident" than it was by "grand
design". My question to you is, if life on this planet was by
"accident", then is the human species just some kind of "excretion" of
a larger consciousness, being full of some nature of co-dependency, or
if life was by some "grand design", then is our ultimate purpose in
life to seek out with all of our might who our Creator actually is?

If you can answer either of these questions, then I can also assume
that either (1) the perfectly fitted solar eclipse is also an
"accident", or (2) the solar eclipse is NOT an accident and was "put"
there by some grand design(er). If your answer is (1), then I can
prove to you that the Magyary phenomenon (1961) revealed that the Sun
actually deprived the Moon of part of its mass effect on the earth
during a solar eclipse. Why is this important? This is important
because it makes the present universe just another superfluous one
among an infinite number of parallel universes, with an infinite
number of earth/moon vs. earth w/o moon systems. So which one are you
going to pick? Let me give you a hint: Even if you pick either system,
you still haven't narrowed the choice down to the "right choice".

If however, your choice is (2), then you are on at least the right
track in believing that by some grand design, the Sun deprived the
Moon of part of its mass effect on the earth for a "reason". Now, if
you are one who does not believe in an absolute "reason" for all that
exists in this universe, then you must either decide that (1) a bridge
to the unknown must be made by faith, or (2) a bridge to the unknown
must be made by "reason". Which one do you believe?


American
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Old June 1st 08, 03:13 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

In article
,
American wrote:

On May 31, 5:56*pm, Timberwoof
wrote:
In article
,



*American wrote:
Just wondering if the "old" Schumann wavelength would have been
considerably altered enough to cause a "2012 event" (aka "Nibiru")
interceding, but in subversion to "constructing a foundation" for
mysterious events such as "tachyon grid shifting", during a "perfect
eclipse". I mean, ever notice how perfectly the moon "fits" right over
the sun during a total lunar eclipse? (Maybe that's too obvious for
some to take notice). *If I am correct in assuming, you are a "Big
Bang" proponent.


So if you are a "Big Bang" proponent, then this means that a "time
traveler" into the past will reach an endpoint, that "point" being set
by the limits of his machinery to withstand the ultimate compression
of spacetime, and incidentally, a "spacetime" where the speed of light
was a great deal "faster" than it is today. So IMO ultimately, a point
will be reached that this "spacetime" will, because of "universal
symmetry" or "supersymmetry" (also a GUT phenomenon) IMPLODE INTO
itself, and then outward again, into some counter-rotated form, where
the "Big Bang" process starts all over again.


Why not imagine that, rather than having a single "Big Bang", there
are similar micro-spacetime "micro-bangs" occurring at some quantum
level, every instant, everywhere, in our "present" universe? If this
were the case, then I surmise that there are real, "parallel"
universes that are also "supersymmetric" to the ones that we are
currently "sequestered" to.


The most "notable" thing about your "essay" is the "superfluous" use of
"quotation marks" throughout. It's "difficult" to tell whether you're
using them as "scare quotes" or as "emphasis". The first "possibility"
simply means that you place "quotation marks" around things you want to
imply "doubt" about in the reader's "mind". The second "possibility" is
that you are using the "quotation" marks not to delineate "what someone
said" but simply to make people pay more "attention" to the specific
words you thing are "important".

What does an ancient Sumerian legend mistaken as a prophecy have to do
with solar eclipses and the big bang? Do you not believe that the "Big
Bang" happened? Are you "familiar" with the "evidence" for the "Big
Bang"? Do you think that your little pet "hypothesis" about multiple
"Big Bangs" is new?

--
Timberwoof me at timberwoof dot comhttp://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ĐChris L.


Too bad that the absence of italics formed text puts google software
back in the luddite category.


Alternatively, you could write as though every word was important. If
you didn't think every word was important, why include the unimportant
ones? You remind me of people who deface their textbooks with
highlighter.

(I could do without the exaggerated
dramatization of the non-italicized lingo) Quotations DO seem to be
somewhat "superflous" - sort of like "eyebrows" that are supposed to
be "raised" everytime they're being used.

As to your alluding to the fact that some "ancient Sumerian legend" (I
put quotes around these words to emphasize that they are "yours"), I'm
under the impression that this idea (legend mistaken as a prophecy)
makes one believe that certain FACTS are being misconstrued in order
to interfere with the actual purpose and design of this habitable part
of the galaxy


How is "this ... part of the galaxy" more "habitable" than any other?
This galaxy is, for the most part, not habitable. The Earth is
habitable, but it's a special place.

as being more by "accident" than it was by "grand
design". My question to you is, if life on this planet was by
"accident", then is the human species just some kind of "excretion" of
a larger consciousness, being full of some nature of co-dependency, or
if life was by some "grand design", then is our ultimate purpose in
life to seek out with all of our might who our Creator actually is?


I don't grant the premises on which you base the answers to your
arbitrary either/or question.

If you can answer either of these questions,


I read it as one question with only two possible answers.

then I can also assume
that either (1) the perfectly fitted solar eclipse is also an
"accident", or (2) the solar eclipse is NOT an accident and was "put"
there by some grand design(er).


That's silly. First, it's not perfectly fitted. It's only perfect some
of the time and only right about now in the Earth's history. You might
as well ask how Niagra Falls got placed so close to all the tourist
shops.

If your answer is (1), then I can
prove to you that the Magyary phenomenon (1961) revealed that the Sun
actually deprived the Moon of part of its mass effect on the earth
during a solar eclipse.


There have been plenty of solar eclipses since then, both total and
annular, and apparently no one has repeated Magyary's results.

Why is this important? This is important
because it makes the present universe just another superfluous one
among an infinite number of parallel universes, with an infinite
number of earth/moon vs. earth w/o moon systems. So which one are you
going to pick? Let me give you a hint: Even if you pick either system,
you still haven't narrowed the choice down to the "right choice".

If however, your choice is (2), then you are on at least the right
track in believing that by some grand design, the Sun deprived the
Moon of part of its mass effect on the earth for a "reason". Now, if
you are one who does not believe in an absolute "reason" for all that
exists in this universe, then you must either decide that (1) a bridge
to the unknown must be made by faith, or (2) a bridge to the unknown
must be made by "reason". Which one do you believe?


So you tie together a disparate set of facts and claims and create some
kind of dialetic which is supposed to lead me to the correct
philosophical position, and you want me to put up with your badgering?

--
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"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
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Old June 1st 08, 03:48 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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On May 31, 1:32 pm, American wrote:
On May 31, 3:24 pm, BradGuth wrote:



On May 29, 10:14 am, David Johnston wrote:


On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth


wrote:
Darwin123 wrote:


Two body collisions, involving Newtonian gravity and rigid
bodies, can never result in one body capturing the other in orbit.


What's rigid about our 98.5% fluid Earth, along with having perhaps as
great as 10 fold greater atmospheric density as of that era,


If the atmosphere density was that much greater there would be no
macroscopic life left afterward.


If that's what your simulation has to say, then so be it. We look
forwards to having a look-see at those complex though impressive
computer simulated results.


BTW; Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aitken_clem_big.gif


Our moon’s South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently
only 13 km deep, offers a perfectly darn good example of the
relatively shallow nature of such a horrific impact, as most likely
moderated in depth due to the moon’s thick coating of surface ice that
existed prior to the lithobraking encounter with Earth.


Of several other largest of craters are approximately 10% as
impressive, or roughly 200 km in diameter and equally shallow.


In order to have produced the South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km would
also have required an impact with something of considerably larger
diameter, such as Earth or possibly Mars got in the way before that
moon arrived at Earth.


Once again, a good supercomputer could have nicely simulated this type
of multiple encounters with such an icy proto-moon or icy planetoid
that was merging with our solar system after being red giant phase
ejected from the complex Sirius-A/B star/solar system that had
recently burned through 4x solar mass upon converting Sirius-B into
that white dwarf.


Of course, for all we know, Earth or at least Venus may also have been
deployed into orbiting Sol by way of that same analogy.
. – Brad Guth


Just wondering if the "old" Schumann wavelength would have been
considerably altered enough to cause a "2012 event" (aka "Nibiru")
interceding, but in subversion to "constructing a foundation" for
mysterious events such as "tachyon grid shifting", during a "perfect
eclipse". I mean, ever notice how perfectly the moon "fits" right over
the sun during a total lunar eclipse? (Maybe that's too obvious for
some to take notice). If I am correct in assuming, you are a "Big
Bang" proponent.

So if you are a "Big Bang" proponent, then this means that a "time
traveler" into the past will reach an endpoint, that "point" being set
by the limits of his machinery to withstand the ultimate compression
of spacetime, and incidentally, a "spacetime" where the speed of light
was a great deal "faster" than it is today. So IMO ultimately, a point
will be reached that this "spacetime" will, because of "universal
symmetry" or "supersymmetry" (also a GUT phenomenon) IMPLODE INTO
itself, and then outward again, into some counter-rotated form, where
the "Big Bang" process starts all over again.

Why not imagine that, rather than having a single "Big Bang", there
are similar micro-spacetime "micro-bangs" occurring at some quantum
level, every instant, everywhere, in our "present" universe? If this
were the case, then I surmise that there are real, "parallel"
universes that are also "supersymmetric" to the ones that we are
currently "sequestered" to.

American


I do favor the MBB(mullti-big-bang), as well as subsequent galactic
encounters that can't but help generate rogue stars, planets, proto-
moons and even a few black holes here and there.

I also believe that when a 6 solar mass star goes through its red-
giant phase, that it tends to lose 5 solar mass and subsequently ends
up as a white dwarf and having lost much of its tidal radius for
holding onto whatever planets and their moons.

I thereby firmly believe in the notions of the interstellar tidal
radius, such as the mutual tidal influence that's collectively between
Sol and Sirius that has us on a 105~110 thousand year cycle, that
which transpired a bit more frequently as we go back in time.
. - Brad Guth
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Old June 1st 08, 04:57 AM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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I tend to favor the MBB(multiple-big-bang) theory over the singular BB
as Old Testament certified, as well as I favor subsequent galactic
encounters that can't but help generate rogue stars, planets, proto-
moons and even responsible for a few wandering black holes here and
there.

I also believe that when a 6 solar mass star goes through its red-
giant phase, that it tends to lose 5 solar mass before it subsequently
ends up as an impressive white dwarf, thereby having lost much of its
tidal radius for holding onto whatever planets and their moons.

I thereby must firmly believe in the sorts of orbital mechanics as
based upon the regular laws of physics, as equally favoring notions on
behalf of the interstellar tidal radius, such as the mutual tidal
influence that's collectively strong between Sol and Sirius, that
which has us on a 105~110 thousand year cycle, as having transpired a
bit more frequently as we go back in time because, most everything
used to be closer together.
. - Brad Guth


On May 31, 1:32 pm, American wrote:
On May 31, 3:24 pm, BradGuth wrote:



On May 29, 10:14 am, David Johnston wrote:


On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth


wrote:
Darwin123 wrote:


Two body collisions, involving Newtonian gravity and rigid
bodies, can never result in one body capturing the other in orbit.


What's rigid about our 98.5% fluid Earth, along with having perhaps as
great as 10 fold greater atmospheric density as of that era,


If the atmosphere density was that much greater there would be no
macroscopic life left afterward.


If that's what your simulation has to say, then so be it. We look
forwards to having a look-see at those complex though impressive
computer simulated results.


BTW; Earth w/o moon is also moon w/o South Pole-Aitken basin.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole-Aitken_basin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aitken_clem_big.gif


Our moon’s South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km in diameter is currently
only 13 km deep, offers a perfectly darn good example of the
relatively shallow nature of such a horrific impact, as most likely
moderated in depth due to the moon’s thick coating of surface ice that
existed prior to the lithobraking encounter with Earth.


Of several other largest of craters are approximately 10% as
impressive, or roughly 200 km in diameter and equally shallow.


In order to have produced the South Pole-Aitken basin of 2500 km would
also have required an impact with something of considerably larger
diameter, such as Earth or possibly Mars got in the way before that
moon arrived at Earth.


Once again, a good supercomputer could have nicely simulated this type
of multiple encounters with such an icy proto-moon or icy planetoid
that was merging with our solar system after being red giant phase
ejected from the complex Sirius-A/B star/solar system that had
recently burned through 4x solar mass upon converting Sirius-B into
that white dwarf.


Of course, for all we know, Earth or at least Venus may also have been
deployed into orbiting Sol by way of that same analogy.
. – Brad Guth


Just wondering if the "old" Schumann wavelength would have been
considerably altered enough to cause a "2012 event" (aka "Nibiru")
interceding, but in subversion to "constructing a foundation" for
mysterious events such as "tachyon grid shifting", during a "perfect
eclipse". I mean, ever notice how perfectly the moon "fits" right over
the sun during a total lunar eclipse? (Maybe that's too obvious for
some to take notice). If I am correct in assuming, you are a "Big
Bang" proponent.

So if you are a "Big Bang" proponent, then this means that a "time
traveler" into the past will reach an endpoint, that "point" being set
by the limits of his machinery to withstand the ultimate compression
of spacetime, and incidentally, a "spacetime" where the speed of light
was a great deal "faster" than it is today. So IMO ultimately, a point
will be reached that this "spacetime" will, because of "universal
symmetry" or "supersymmetry" (also a GUT phenomenon) IMPLODE INTO
itself, and then outward again, into some counter-rotated form, where
the "Big Bang" process starts all over again.

Why not imagine that, rather than having a single "Big Bang", there
are similar micro-spacetime "micro-bangs" occurring at some quantum
level, every instant, everywhere, in our "present" universe? If this
were the case, then I surmise that there are real, "parallel"
universes that are also "supersymmetric" to the ones that we are
currently "sequestered" to.

American

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Old June 1st 08, 11:00 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

In article
,
BradGuth wrote:

I tend to favor the MBB(multiple-big-bang) theory over the singular BB
as Old Testament certified, as well as I favor subsequent galactic
encounters that can't but help generate rogue stars, planets, proto-
moons and even responsible for a few wandering black holes here and
there.

I also believe that when a 6 solar mass star goes through its red-
giant phase, that it tends to lose 5 solar mass before it subsequently
ends up as an impressive white dwarf, thereby having lost much of its
tidal radius for holding onto whatever planets and their moons.

I thereby must firmly believe in the sorts of orbital mechanics as
based upon the regular laws of physics, as equally favoring notions on
behalf of the interstellar tidal radius, such as the mutual tidal
influence that's collectively strong between Sol and Sirius, that
which has us on a 105~110 thousand year cycle, as having transpired a
bit more frequently as we go back in time because, most everything
used to be closer together.
. - Brad Guth


I believe in kittens and apple pies, and playing hockey on Sunday
mornings. I believe that the fog is brought to annoy my roommate, who
likes to dry out his hockey equipment in the backyard under the warming
sun. But kittens in pies are a bad idea.

I believe in moonlit nights, listening to the howl of BART as its
electric paddles scrape along the third rail.

I believe in countersteering and ATGATT, as well as reflective tape and
as many auxiliary lights as the law and the alternator will permit.

At least I have facts to back up my beliefs.

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Old June 1st 08, 11:14 PM posted to sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,soc.history.what-if,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Earth w/o Moon / by Brad Guth

On Jun 1, 3:00 pm, Timberwoof
wrote:
In article
,



BradGuth wrote:
I tend to favor the MBB(multiple-big-bang) theory over the singular BB
as Old Testament certified, as well as I favor subsequent galactic
encounters that can't but help generate rogue stars, planets, proto-
moons and even responsible for a few wandering black holes here and
there.


I also believe that when a 6 solar mass star goes through its red-
giant phase, that it tends to lose 5 solar mass before it subsequently
ends up as an impressive white dwarf, thereby having lost much of its
tidal radius for holding onto whatever planets and their moons.


I thereby must firmly believe in the sorts of orbital mechanics as
based upon the regular laws of physics, as equally favoring notions on
behalf of the interstellar tidal radius, such as the mutual tidal
influence that's collectively strong between Sol and Sirius, that
which has us on a 105~110 thousand year cycle, as having transpired a
bit more frequently as we go back in time because, most everything
used to be closer together.
. - Brad Guth


I believe in kittens and apple pies, and playing hockey on Sunday
mornings. I believe that the fog is brought to annoy my roommate, who
likes to dry out his hockey equipment in the backyard under the warming
sun. But kittens in pies are a bad idea.

I believe in moonlit nights, listening to the howl of BART as its
electric paddles scrape along the third rail.

I believe in countersteering and ATGATT, as well as reflective tape and
as many auxiliary lights as the law and the alternator will permit.

At least I have facts to back up my beliefs.


Too bad those supposed "beliefs" can't be run within a good public
owned supercomputer and of their physics based simulations, especially
in the fully 3D interactive eye-candy mode.

BTW; last time I'd checked, a theory was just a theory that so
happened to function within the what-if but regular laws of physics,
instead of having to be skewed along and otherwise protected by your
faith-based conditional laws of physics.

Clearly you and others of your kind are not even remotely trying,
other than to topic/author stalk and bash everything in sight that
rocks your boat.
.. - Brad Guth
 




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