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  #21  
Old January 18th 19, 12:36 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-5, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
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On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 11:33:54 AM UTC-5, Jibini Kula
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If you believe in global warming, then you shouldn't fly to
Iceland. Swim maybe, or sail or row a boat. But not fly
there.

In fact, I did fly there. Other than being eight hours in a tin
can, it was a very pleasant flight. And I have doubts that
global warming has much to do with their history of volcanic
eruptions, which are the greatest hazard to air travel (as
demonstrated a few years ago).


Volcanoes have nothing to do with this.


That's what I said, yes.


No, it wasn't.


The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in longboats
powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you were concerned
about your contributions to CO2 in the atmosphere, you should
have used some similarly green mode of transport.

And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a box, and
throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device you own that uses
electricity.


If you are concerned about the effects of CO2 emissions, then you should stop flying and give up your electronics too.

Also, "throwing electronics in a swamp" is bad for the environment. There are proper ways to dispose of unwanted electronics and that is not one of them.

Swamps are important features of healthy environments. But your flying habits have already demonstrated your lack of concern about what you do.

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Old January 18th 19, 01:58 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 4:44:21 PM UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote:
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On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-5, Mike Collins wrote:

There’s nothing wrong with genetic modification. It’s what it’s used for
which is the problem.

There's circular reasoning for you!


No circular reasoning there. My neighbour is a scientist working on genetic
modification of potatoes to prevent blight (amongst other projects). A
reasonable use for a powerful technique. But engineering tolerance to
insecticides which then kill useful insects is not a good use. Especially
since the insects feeding on the plants breed fast enough to evolve
tolerance while bees, which are being hit by a virus disease are being
weakened by insecticide exposure.
Another consequence of genetic modification is the increase in monoculture.
The endpoint of this is the sudden emergence of a viral, bacterial of
fungal infection which destroys the whole crop. It’s already happened once
to bananas, which are grown as clones, and may soon happen again.


Your statement was still circular reasoning.


Rubbish!
Genetic modification is not wrong.
Most uses of genetic modification are wrong.
Where is the circle.


  #23  
Old January 18th 19, 03:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Quadibloc wrote in
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On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-7, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
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The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in longboats
powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you were concerned
about your contributions to CO2 in the atmosphere, you should
have used some similarly green mode of transport.


And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a
box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device you
own that uses electricity.


That is not an effective reply. He isn't concerned. He wants
those people who _are_ concerned with this (according to him)
imaginary nonsense of global warming to throw their computers
away, so that they won't bother him again.

Of course, they won't fall for that rhetorical trick.

You referring to Skippy or me? Or, rather, are you imagining you're
referring ti Skippy or me, cuz I doubt you have any clue what either
of us (or youself, for that matter) are actually saying.

Which is just a day that ends in "y."

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #24  
Old January 18th 19, 03:54 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:46:21 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc
wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-7, Jibini Kula
Tumbili K

ujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:


The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in
longboats powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you were
concerned about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should have used some similarly green mode
of transport.


And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a
box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device
you own that uses electricity.


That is not an effective reply. He isn't concerned. He wants
those people

who
_are_ concerned with this (according to him) imaginary nonsense
of global


warming to throw their computers away, so that they won't
bother him agai

n.

Of course, they won't fall for that rhetorical trick.

John Savard


You and JKTK are concerned about the relatively small CO2
emissions of others, but not concerned at all about your own
much larger emissions. Hypocrites, you all are.

In your minds, if you admit to wrecking the environment, then
it's OK for you to wreck the environment. If someone else shows
any degree of climate skepticism, but otherwise shows respect
for the environment along with belief in science, then you try
to belittle them and try to blame everything on them. Your
individual and collective illogic is astounding, but not
surprising.

Yours is NOT a good recipe for trying to get your point across,
whatever that point actually is. And with hypocritical greenies
that can very difficult to tell.

If you are concerned about rising sea levels, then demonstrate
your concern by staying off of aircraft, for starters.

Somebody needs a cookie and a hug from Mummy before he goes to bed.
He gets cranky when he's tired.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #25  
Old January 18th 19, 03:56 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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wrote in
:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-5, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 11:33:54 AM UTC-5, Jibini
Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in


If you believe in global warming, then you shouldn't fly
to Iceland. Swim maybe, or sail or row a boat. But not
fly there.

In fact, I did fly there. Other than being eight hours in a
tin can, it was a very pleasant flight. And I have doubts
that global warming has much to do with their history of
volcanic eruptions, which are the greatest hazard to air
travel (as demonstrated a few years ago).

Volcanoes have nothing to do with this.


That's what I said, yes.


No, it wasn't.


Yes, it was.


The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in longboats
powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you were concerned
about your contributions to CO2 in the atmosphere, you should
have used some similarly green mode of transport.

And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a
box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device you
own that uses electricity.


If you are concerned about the effects of CO2 emissions, then
you should stop flying and give up your electronics too.

Also, "throwing electronics in a swamp" is bad for the
environment. There are proper ways to dispose of unwanted
electronics and that is not one of them.

Swamps are important features of healthy environments. But your
flying habits have already demonstrated your lack of concern
about what you do.


You're still posting, usi9ng electricity that generates CO2, which
will destroy human civilization and kill us all (accordin to you).
Ergo, are you what you accuse everyone else of being: a deliberate
destroyer, and hypocrite.

Which is just another day that ends in "y."

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #26  
Old January 18th 19, 05:13 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha
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wrote in
:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:54:24 AM UTC-5, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:46:21 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc
wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-7, Jibini
Kula Tumbili K
ujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in
longboats powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you
were concerned about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should have used some similarly green
mode of transport.

And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in
the atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it
in a box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other
device you own that uses electricity.

That is not an effective reply. He isn't concerned. He wants
those people
who
_are_ concerned with this (according to him) imaginary
nonsense of global

warming to throw their computers away, so that they won't
bother him agai
n.

Of course, they won't fall for that rhetorical trick.

John Savard

You and JKTK are concerned about the relatively small CO2
emissions of others, but not concerned at all about your own
much larger emissions. Hypocrites, you all are.

In your minds, if you admit to wrecking the environment, then
it's OK for you to wreck the environment. If someone else
shows any degree of climate skepticism, but otherwise shows
respect for the environment along with belief in science,
then you try to belittle them and try to blame everything on
them. Your individual and collective illogic is astounding,
but not surprising.

Yours is NOT a good recipe for trying to get your point
across, whatever that point actually is. And with
hypocritical greenies that can very difficult to tell.

If you are concerned about rising sea levels, then
demonstrate your concern by staying off of aircraft, for
starters.

Somebody needs a cookie and a hug from Mummy before he goes to
bed. He gets cranky when he's tired.


You prove my point. You get called out for your wasteful use of
fossil fuel and your hypocrisy about it, and then you resort to
trying to belittle your "attacker." Give it a rest, hypocrite.

You're still using civilization dstroying electricity to post to
usenet, son. You're projecting your own self-hatred onto others. If
you actually cared about the environment, you'd stop using
electricity entirely. But you won't, because you don't.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #27  
Old January 18th 19, 06:05 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:54:24 AM UTC-5, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 12:46:21 AM UTC-5, Quadibloc
wrote:
On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 10:23:03 AM UTC-7, Jibini Kula
Tumbili K

ujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in
longboats powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you were
concerned about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should have used some similarly green mode
of transport.

And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a
box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device
you own that uses electricity.

That is not an effective reply. He isn't concerned. He wants
those people

who
_are_ concerned with this (according to him) imaginary nonsense
of global


warming to throw their computers away, so that they won't
bother him agai

n.

Of course, they won't fall for that rhetorical trick.

John Savard


You and JKTK are concerned about the relatively small CO2
emissions of others, but not concerned at all about your own
much larger emissions. Hypocrites, you all are.

In your minds, if you admit to wrecking the environment, then
it's OK for you to wreck the environment. If someone else shows
any degree of climate skepticism, but otherwise shows respect
for the environment along with belief in science, then you try
to belittle them and try to blame everything on them. Your
individual and collective illogic is astounding, but not
surprising.

Yours is NOT a good recipe for trying to get your point across,
whatever that point actually is. And with hypocritical greenies
that can very difficult to tell.

If you are concerned about rising sea levels, then demonstrate
your concern by staying off of aircraft, for starters.

Somebody needs a cookie and a hug from Mummy before he goes to bed.
He gets cranky when he's tired.


You prove my point. You get called out for your wasteful use of fossil fuel and your hypocrisy about it, and then you resort to trying to belittle your "attacker." Give it a rest, hypocrite.
  #28  
Old January 18th 19, 06:10 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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wrote in
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On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-5, Jibini
Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 11:33:54 AM UTC-5,
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in


If you believe in global warming, then you shouldn't
fly to Iceland. Swim maybe, or sail or row a boat.
But not fly there.

In fact, I did fly there. Other than being eight hours in
a tin can, it was a very pleasant flight. And I have
doubts that global warming has much to do with their
history of volcanic eruptions, which are the greatest
hazard to air travel (as demonstrated a few years ago).

Volcanoes have nothing to do with this.

That's what I said, yes.

No, it wasn't.


Yes, it was.


No, it was not what you said.


The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in
longboats powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you
were concerned about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should have used some similarly green mode
of transport.

And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a
box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device
you own that uses electricity.

If you are concerned about the effects of CO2 emissions, then
you should stop flying and give up your electronics too.

Also, "throwing electronics in a swamp" is bad for the
environment. There are proper ways to dispose of unwanted
electronics and that is not one of them.

Swamps are important features of healthy environments. But
your flying habits have already demonstrated your lack of
concern about what you do.


You're still posting, usi9ng electricity that generates CO2,
which will destroy human civilization and kill us all (accordin
to you).


Do YOU believe that CO2 will destroy civilization and kill
everyone? What exactly DO you believe will happen and what
steps will YOU personally take from now on to forestall it?

Ergo, are you what you accuse everyone else of being: a
deliberate destroyer, and hypocrite.


My electricity doesn't generate CO2.


Yes, it does. The manufacture of solar panels generates all sorts
of greehouse gasses, as does the manufacture of even hydroelectric
generators.

And for people to *read* your posts, they have to use electricity,
and msot electricity is generated by fossile fuels. So by posting,
you induce others to be as hypocritical as you are.

And *all* electricity eventually ends up as waste heat.

This isn't about my
electricity,


It is now, hypocrite.

Every post you make kills another butterfly.

--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

  #29  
Old January 18th 19, 06:15 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-5, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 11:33:54 AM UTC-5, Jibini
Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in


If you believe in global warming, then you shouldn't fly
to Iceland. Swim maybe, or sail or row a boat. But not
fly there.

In fact, I did fly there. Other than being eight hours in a
tin can, it was a very pleasant flight. And I have doubts
that global warming has much to do with their history of
volcanic eruptions, which are the greatest hazard to air
travel (as demonstrated a few years ago).

Volcanoes have nothing to do with this.

That's what I said, yes.


No, it wasn't.


Yes, it was.


No, it was not what you said.


The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in longboats
powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you were concerned
about your contributions to CO2 in the atmosphere, you should
have used some similarly green mode of transport.

And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a
box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device you
own that uses electricity.


If you are concerned about the effects of CO2 emissions, then
you should stop flying and give up your electronics too.

Also, "throwing electronics in a swamp" is bad for the
environment. There are proper ways to dispose of unwanted
electronics and that is not one of them.

Swamps are important features of healthy environments. But your
flying habits have already demonstrated your lack of concern
about what you do.


You're still posting, usi9ng electricity that generates CO2, which
will destroy human civilization and kill us all (accordin to you).


Do YOU believe that CO2 will destroy civilization and kill everyone? What exactly DO you believe will happen and what steps will YOU personally take from now on to forestall it?

Ergo, are you what you accuse everyone else of being: a deliberate
destroyer, and hypocrite.


My electricity doesn't generate CO2. This isn't about my electricity, it's about your wasteful, environmentally destructive airplane travel, destruction in which most people in the world DON'T participate.

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Old January 23rd 19, 11:58 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 2:10:48 PM UTC-5, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:56:16 AM UTC-5, Jibini Kula
Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Thursday, January 17, 2019 at 12:23:03 PM UTC-5, Jibini
Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in
:

On Wednesday, January 16, 2019 at 11:33:54 AM UTC-5,
Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
wrote in


If you believe in global warming, then you shouldn't
fly to Iceland. Swim maybe, or sail or row a boat.
But not fly there.

In fact, I did fly there. Other than being eight hours in
a tin can, it was a very pleasant flight. And I have
doubts that global warming has much to do with their
history of volcanic eruptions, which are the greatest
hazard to air travel (as demonstrated a few years ago).

Volcanoes have nothing to do with this.

That's what I said, yes.

No, it wasn't.

Yes, it was.


No, it was not what you said.


The ancestors of current-day Icelanders arrived in
longboats powered by wind, currents, and oars. If you
were concerned about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should have used some similarly green mode
of transport.

And if you're worried about your contributions to CO2 in the
atmosphere, you should shut down your computer, put it in a
box, and throw it in a swamp. Along with every other device
you own that uses electricity.

If you are concerned about the effects of CO2 emissions, then
you should stop flying and give up your electronics too.

Also, "throwing electronics in a swamp" is bad for the
environment. There are proper ways to dispose of unwanted
electronics and that is not one of them.

Swamps are important features of healthy environments. But
your flying habits have already demonstrated your lack of
concern about what you do.


You're still posting, usi9ng electricity that generates CO2,
which will destroy human civilization and kill us all (accordin
to you).


Do YOU believe that CO2 will destroy civilization and kill
everyone? What exactly DO you believe will happen and what
steps will YOU personally take from now on to forestall it?

Ergo, are you what you accuse everyone else of being: a
deliberate destroyer, and hypocrite.


My electricity doesn't generate CO2.


Yes, it does. The manufacture of solar panels generates all sorts
of greehouse gasses, as does the manufacture of even hydroelectric
generators.


A hydroelectric generator does not create greenhouse gasses.


And for people to *read* your posts, they have to use electricity,
and msot electricity is generated by fossile fuels. So by posting,
you induce others to be as hypocritical as you are.


I am not responsible for their behavior, nor for your wasteful vacations.

And *all* electricity eventually ends up as waste heat.


Which eventually radiates away from Earth.

This isn't about my
electricity,


It is now, hypocrite.


It is not. This is about the hypocrisy of your being a warmingist who makes unneeded airplane flights, when a rowboat could serve instead.

And by the way, shorten your screen name and get rid of your stupid tag line. That should reduce the load on the servers, save some power and help hide the fact that you are a hypocritical wastrel.

Every post you make kills another butterfly.


Every plane trip you make helps kill off entire species, perhaps.

So don't complain about CO2 emissions when you are a major contributor to them.
 




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