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Old May 12th 11, 04:56 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
Robert Clark
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

On Jan 6, 5:42*am, Robert Clark wrote:
*All of Armadillo Aerospace, Blue Origins, and Masten Space Systems
plan on making uncrewedsuborbitaltest flights this year. And Blue
Origins believes they can begin crewedsuborbitaltest flights next
year. This could be the time frame in which SpaceShipTwo will be
making its firstsuborbitaltest flights.
*See the links to the respectivesuborbitalprograms he

Suborbital RLV.
https://c3.ndc.nasa.gov/flightopport...rms/suborbital

* Bob Clark


Just saw this:

Blue Origin carrying out "rocket launch activity".
"NOTAM Text:
"FDC 1/0432 ZAB NM.. TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS VAN HORN TX.
EFFECTIVE 1105051200 UTC UNTIL 1105051900 UTC. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR
SECTION 91.143 TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT DUE TO
ROCKET LAUNCH ACTIVITY WITHIN A 17 NAUTICAL MILE RADIUS OF 312706N/
1044546W OR THE SALT FLAT /SFL/ VORTAC 125 DEGREE RADIAL AT 24.3
NAUTICAL MILES, SFC TO 10,000 MSL. BLUE ORIGIN LLC, 805-598-9309 IS IN
CHARGE OF THE OPERATION. ABQ ARTCC /ZAB/ 505-856-4500 IS THE FAA
COORDINATION FACILITY."
http://hobbyspace.com/nucleus/?itemid=29314

And Armadillo Aerospace was set to make their first test flight to
100,000 ft, 30 km, in April, but an unauthorized person, a hunter, in
the launch zone caused them to scrub the launch:

Armadillo Aerospace's "Tube Rocket" 'Stig' completed.
Industry News by BEN BROCKERT, Armadillo Aerospace
SUNDAY, APRIL 03, 2011
http://www.rocketryplanet.com/conten...#ixzz1M6apKJvr

Unfortunately, White Sands Missile Range (WSMR) which is next door to
the launch site at SpacePort America has not granted a right to launch
since the canceled April flight.


Bob Clark
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Old May 12th 11, 04:59 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

In sci.space.history Robert Clark wrote:
On Jan 6, 5:42¬*am, Robert Clark wrote:
¬*All of Armadillo Aerospace, Blue Origins, and Masten Space Systems
plan on making uncrewedsuborbitaltest flights this year. And Blue
Origins believes they can begin crewedsuborbitaltest flights next
year. This could be the time frame in which SpaceShipTwo will be
making its firstsuborbitaltest flights.
¬*See the links to the respectivesuborbitalprograms he

Suborbital RLV.
https://c3.ndc.nasa.gov/flightopport...rms/suborbital

¬* Bob Clark


Just saw this:


Blue Origin carrying out "rocket launch activity".
"NOTAM Text:
"FDC 1/0432 ZAB NM.. TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS VAN HORN TX.
EFFECTIVE 1105051200 UTC UNTIL 1105051900 UTC. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR
SECTION 91.143 TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ARE IN EFFECT DUE TO
ROCKET LAUNCH ACTIVITY WITHIN A 17 NAUTICAL MILE RADIUS OF 312706N/
1044546W OR THE SALT FLAT /SFL/ VORTAC 125 DEGREE RADIAL AT 24.3
NAUTICAL MILES, SFC TO 10,000 MSL. BLUE ORIGIN LLC, 805-598-9309 IS IN
CHARGE OF THE OPERATION. ABQ ARTCC /ZAB/ 505-856-4500 IS THE FAA
COORDINATION FACILITY."
http://hobbyspace.com/nucleus/?itemid=29314


What is that in English?-) - for example is 10,000 MSL 10,000 feet or
something else?

rick
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Old May 12th 11, 08:44 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

In sci.space.history Pat Flannery wrote:
On 5/12/2011 7:59 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
What is that in English?-) - for example is 10,000 MSL 10,000 feet or
something else?


No flying up to 10,000 above sea level out on the salt flat at 31.2706
N, 104.4546 W (Google Earth shows their circular test pad there) near
Van Horn, Texas and for a radius of 17 miles in any direction on
Thursday, May 5, 2011 between 7 AM - 12 AM local time.
The 17 miles is a little strange; one would have expected either 15 or
20 miles?


~30km?

Sadly, maps.google.com doesn't show the pad, just a whole lot of not
much at those coordinates. Just 7 Heart Pass (I am assuming Ps stands
for Pass)

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Old May 12th 11, 10:06 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

On 5/12/2011 7:59 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
What is that in English?-) - for example is 10,000 MSL 10,000 feet or
something else?


No flying up to 10,000 above sea level out on the salt flat at 31.2706
N, 104.4546 W (Google Earth shows their circular test pad there) near
Van Horn, Texas and for a radius of 17 miles in any direction on
Thursday, May 5, 2011 between 7 AM - 12 AM local time.
The 17 miles is a little strange; one would have expected either 15 or
20 miles?

Pat
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Old May 13th 11, 05:19 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

On 5/12/2011 11:44 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
In sci.space.history Pat wrote:
On 5/12/2011 7:59 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
What is that in English?-) - for example is 10,000 MSL 10,000 feet or
something else?


No flying up to 10,000 above sea level out on the salt flat at 31.2706
N, 104.4546 W (Google Earth shows their circular test pad there) near
Van Horn, Texas and for a radius of 17 miles in any direction on
Thursday, May 5, 2011 between 7 AM - 12 AM local time.
The 17 miles is a little strange; one would have expected either 15 or
20 miles?


~30km?

Sadly, maps.google.com doesn't show the pad, just a whole lot of not
much at those coordinates. Just 7 Heart Pass (I am assuming Ps stands
for Pass)

rick jones


On Google Earth's April 2008 imagery it's a circular empty area about
130' in diameter that may be concrete covered, and that's it...no
buildings or anything at the pad itself. What I think is their command
area with a identical pad with some sort of structures on it is located
2.0 miles to its south, joined by a road.
Is the idea to fly the spacecraft from one pad to the other?

Pat

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Old May 13th 11, 05:31 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
Pat Flannery
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

On 5/12/2011 8:19 PM, Pat Flannery wrote:
On Google Earth's April 2008 imagery it's a circular empty area about
130' in diameter that may be concrete covered, and that's it...no
buildings or anything at the pad itself. What I think is their command
area with a identical pad with some sort of structures on it is located
2.0 miles to its south, joined by a road.
Is the idea to fly the spacecraft from one pad to the other?


Just found their vehicle assembly building, which is located at 31 deg
23' 49".85 N, 104 deg 44' 49".66 W. - 3.83 miles south of the pad in
the NOTAM.

Pat


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Old May 13th 11, 05:36 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
Robert Clark
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

On May 12, 5:06*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
On 5/12/2011 7:59 AM, Rick Jones wrote:

What is that in English?-) - for example is 10,000 MSL 10,000 feet or
something else?


No flying up to 10,000 above sea level out on the salt flat at 31.2706
N, 104.4546 W (Google Earth shows their circular test pad there) near
Van Horn, Texas and for a radius of 17 miles in any direction on
Thursday, May 5, 2011 between 7 AM - 12 AM local time.
The 17 miles is a little strange; one would have expected either 15 or
20 miles?

Pat


I wonder how much detail you could get with a powerful telephoto lens
at 17 miles away?
On this page are shown some photos taken from up to 2 miles away
using one of the most powerful telephoto lens ever made commercially
the Canon Super Telephoto 1200mm f/5.6L:

The Mother of all Telephotos.
Canon only made a handful of these puppies and we got one!
By Allan Weitz
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/find/n...l-L-Lenses.jsp

Bob Clark
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Old May 13th 11, 05:42 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.history
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

On May 11, 11:56*pm, Robert Clark wrote:
On Jan 6, 5:42*am, Robert Clark wrote:

*All of Armadillo Aerospace, Blue Origins, and Masten Space Systems
plan on making uncrewedsuborbitaltest flights this year. And Blue
Origins believes they can begin crewedsuborbitaltest flights next
year. This could be the time frame in which SpaceShipTwo will be
making its firstsuborbitaltest flights.
*See the links to the respectivesuborbitalprograms he


Suborbital RLV.
https://c3.ndc.nasa.gov/flightopport...rms/suborbital


* Bob Clark



Just saw this today from Masten Space Systems:

Xaero 20110512 Tether Flight.mov
"Uploaded by mastenspace on May 12, 2011
Here is a glimpse of our tethered test sequence. With the tied down
(or tied up) tests completed, this is the next step in qualifying our
Xaero rocket vehicle for flight. In addition to testing the various
aspects of the hardware and shaking out bugs in the software, we are
also refining our crew operations. Today (05.12.11) we completed 3
tethered flights. Yesterday, we ran 5 tethered flights. It shouldn't
be long before the chains come off and the free flights begin. Stay
tuned for more updates. Media: contact Masten Space Systems for higher
resolution video."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCVpfZ351FQ


Bob Clark
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Old May 13th 11, 06:22 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

In sci.physics Pat Flannery wrote:
On 5/12/2011 7:59 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
What is that in English?-) - for example is 10,000 MSL 10,000 feet or
something else?


No flying up to 10,000 above sea level out on the salt flat at 31.2706
N, 104.4546 W (Google Earth shows their circular test pad there) near
Van Horn, Texas and for a radius of 17 miles in any direction on
Thursday, May 5, 2011 between 7 AM - 12 AM local time.
The 17 miles is a little strange; one would have expected either 15 or
20 miles?

Pat


It is 15 miles statute; aviation miles are generally nautical.



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Old May 15th 11, 12:38 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.space.history
Robert Clark
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Default Private, uncrewed, suborbital test flights to start this year.

On May 13, 1:22*pm, wrote:
In sci.physics Pat Flannery wrote:

On 5/12/2011 7:59 AM, Rick Jones wrote:
What is that in English?-) - for example is 10,000 MSL 10,000 feet or
something else?


No flying up to 10,000 above sea level out on the salt flat at 31.2706
N, 104.4546 W (Google Earth shows their circular test pad there) near
Van Horn, Texas and for a radius of 17 miles in any direction on
Thursday, May 5, 2011 between 7 AM - 12 AM local time.
The 17 miles is a little strange; one would have expected either 15 or
20 miles?


Pat


It is 15 miles statute; aviation miles are generally nautical.

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In case someone is reading this on a forum other than sci.physics
where Jim already made a correction to his post, that 15 miles should
have been 20 miles
as nautical miles are longer than statute miles.


Bob Clark
 




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