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Old September 20th 05, 05:09 PM
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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather
satellite via a remote control from somebody on earth. Nobody has to be
in harms way.


I'm not sure that seeding clouds with silver-something-or-other to avoid
hailstorms was ever really poven to be reliable.
The laser is a lot of BS, but the Jello idea may not be THAT dumb...how
about spreading on the sea surface, obviously on a very large scale, some
product to reduce water evaporation, that would then "deteriorate" or be bio
or H2O degradable after several days. Or perhaps change the surface color
(dye, ink, paint....), which changes its reflectity, which would change its
temperature. Eureka!
BR


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In sci.space.science br wrote:

"Eldonbraun" a ?crit dans le message de
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Barbara Schwarz wrote:
A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather
satellite via a remote control from somebody on earth. Nobody has to be
in harms way.


I'm not sure that seeding clouds with silver-something-or-other to avoid
hailstorms was ever really poven to be reliable.
The laser is a lot of BS, but the Jello idea may not be THAT dumb...how
about spreading on the sea surface, obviously on a very large scale, some
product to reduce water evaporation, that would then "deteriorate" or be bio
or H2O degradable after several days. Or perhaps change the surface color
(dye, ink, paint....), which changes its reflectity, which would change its
temperature. Eureka!


Biodiesel?
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Old September 21st 05, 02:53 AM
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On 20 Sep 2005 19:28:13 GMT, Ian Stirling
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In sci.space.science br wrote:

"Eldonbraun" a ?crit dans le message de
oups.com...
Barbara Schwarz wrote:
A hurrican can be broken up with a strong laser from a weather
satellite via a remote control from somebody on earth. Nobody has to be
in harms way.


I'm not sure that seeding clouds with silver-something-or-other to avoid
hailstorms was ever really poven to be reliable.
The laser is a lot of BS, but the Jello idea may not be THAT dumb...how
about spreading on the sea surface, obviously on a very large scale, some
product to reduce water evaporation, that would then "deteriorate" or be bio
or H2O degradable after several days. Or perhaps change the surface color
(dye, ink, paint....), which changes its reflectity, which would change its
temperature. Eureka!


Biodiesel?


Ice?
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Old September 27th 05, 09:00 PM
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Ice?




Ice wouldn't last long enough and would be too heavy. We would need
something :
1.lighter than water, perhaps hydrophobe enough to slow evaporation of the
surface water underneath.
2.opaque, light-colored, preferably white, to change the surface albedo as
much as possible.
3.bio-degradable after, say 72 hours
4.cheap, 'cause we'd need A LOT OF IT


Combining this with an "albedo attack" from above (darkening the tops of the
circling, white, hurricane clouds with a dark smoke or haze would warm them
from above, thus lessening the funnel action in the middle, or eye of the
storm.


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Old October 19th 05, 06:43 PM
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br wrote:
"Michael Gray" a écrit dans le
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On 20 Sep 2005 19:28:13 GMT, Ian Stirling
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Ice?




Ice wouldn't last long enough and would be too heavy. We would need
something :
1.lighter than water, perhaps hydrophobe enough to slow evaporation
of the surface water underneath.
2.opaque, light-colored, preferably white, to change the surface
albedo as much as possible.
3.bio-degradable after, say 72 hours
4.cheap, 'cause we'd need A LOT OF IT


Combining this with an "albedo attack" from above (darkening the tops
of the circling, white, hurricane clouds with a dark smoke or haze
would warm them from above, thus lessening the funnel action in the
middle, or eye of the storm.


During one experiment the former USSR dumped one whole tanker of oil in the
Pacific in an effort to stop a hurricane. The experiment failed.



USA experimented with silver-iodine dispersing it on a large scale from an
aeroplane. There was no mathematically provable success.



And as with Jello... ok, do you have enough Jello to cover a large piece of
Mexican Gulf? And what happens when that nice thick Jello gets accelerated
to 200 mi/h?? A lot more damage than from water droplets at the same speed.


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Old October 25th 05, 04:57 PM
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During one experiment the former USSR dumped one whole tanker of oil in

the
Pacific in an effort to stop a hurricane. The experiment failed.



"one whole tanker of oil " is not a whole hell of a lot, considering the
size of a hurricane, and it's not the right color, really, to cool off the
surface.


USA experimented with silver-iodine dispersing it on a large scale from an
aeroplane. There was no mathematically provable success.



Silver IODIDE (not iodine) has been tried for years to "seed" clouds, with,
as you say, no perceptible success. It's also been tried on hurricanes, see:
www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/tcfaq/C5a.html. My father lost a bunch of money on
one of those schemes in the Colorado Rockies in th 50's. That's not,
however, what I suggested. My idea is to work on the albedo to modfify the
temperatures involved, not to chemically change the storm.


And as with Jello... ok, do you have enough Jello to cover a large piece

of
Mexican Gulf? And what happens when that nice thick Jello gets accelerated
to 200 mi/h?? A lot more damage than from water droplets at the same

speed.


Jello's a dumb idea.



BR


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Tilman Hausherr wrote:
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:16:25 +0100, Cardinal Chunder
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Not to mention sheer absurdity of a laser with massive energy
requirements being pointed at a storm system containing mind buggering
amounts of energy. I'm sure that a laser could proscribe a circle with
mirors or whatever, but what the point of that would be has yet to be
explained by babbling Babs.


More about her:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Schwarz
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/barbara_schwarz.html


Might as well be Frank William Abagnale, no?
 




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