Aether has mass

On Dec 30, 6:16*pm, Painius wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 14:06:27 -0800 (PST), Brad Guth









wrote:
On Dec 30, 1:47*pm, Painius wrote:
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:26:54 -0800 (PST), mpc755
wrote:

On Dec 28, 8:14*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

You can't possibly specify aether has mass, because there's still no
replicated science in support of such aether mass.

The following articles describe what is presently postulated as dark
matter is aether. Meaning, aether has mass.

'Quantum aether and an invariant Planck scale'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.3753

"this version of aether may have some bearing on the abundance of Dark
Matter and Dark Energy in our universe."

"mass of the aether"

'Scalars, Vectors and Tensors from Metric-Affine Gravity'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1110.5168

"the model obtained here gets closer to the aether theory of , which
is shown therein to be an alternative to the cold dark matter."

'Unified model for dark matter and quintessence'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0610135

"Superfluid dark matter is reminiscent of the aether and modeling the
universe using superfluid aether is compatible."

'Vainshtein mechanism in Gauss-Bonnet gravity and Galileon aether'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1107.1892

"the perturbations of the scalar field do not propagate in the
Minkowski space-time but rather in some form of ”aether” because of
the presence of the background field"

'On the super-fluid property of the relativistic physical vacuum
medium and the inertial motion of particles'
http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0701155

"In this paper we shall show that the relativistic physical vacuum
medium as a ubiquitous back ground field is a super fluid medium."

In the following article the faster the object moves through the super-
fluid ideal relativistic ether from general relativity the greater the
relativistic mass of the object.

Good, Mike, you came out and said that the scientifically found yet
still mysterious "dark matter" is the spatial medium itself. *I agree
with you, for what it's worth, and have been saying it for years.

The reason, well two reasons, that dark matter cannot be sensed "up
close" is that 1) *scientists are still very hung up and extremely
hypersensitized by the idea of "officially" admitting any substance at
all to the medium of spacetime, and 2) *even if scientists would "come
around", we still don't possess the technology required to sense or
measure the "mass" of space.

Since dark matter is indeed spacetime, and since there is no need for,
and no such thing as, "dark energy", then it is safe to say that dark
matter composes nearly all of the mass and energy in the Universe. The
approximate distribution would be as follows...

0.4% = stars, etc.
3.6% = intergalactic gas
96% = space/dark matter

And there's nothing wrong in giving that 96% a proper name, like
aether.

BTW; *I happen to think the IGM and ISM combined is measurably worth a
lot more than 3.6%, and that perhaps aether is worth at most 50%.

Slight misunderstanding?

That was the gas that is between all the galaxies (intergalactic) that
makes up 3.6% of the entire Universe. *That is not "IGM" nor "ISM".
That is GAS that lies BETWEEN all the galaxies.

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At only one particle per empty cm3, represents a rather considerable
amount of mass, especially if the expanding universe is near 100
billion light years diameter.

100 ly diameter is 4.433e86 cm3

On Nov 27 2012, 5:56*am, mpc755 wrote:
A moving particle has an associated physical wave. In a double slit
experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the
associated wave in the aether through both. As the wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the
particle travels. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
theory. Detecting the particle turns the associated wave in the aether
into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and doesn't
create an interference pattern.

It sounds to me that aether is antigravity, especially if it reacts to
ordinary particles by waving.

On Jan 2, 1:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Nov 27 2012, 5:56*am, mpc755 wrote:

A moving particle has an associated physical wave. In a double slit
experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the
associated wave in the aether through both. As the wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the
particle travels. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
theory. Detecting the particle turns the associated wave in the aether
into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and doesn't
create an interference pattern.

It sounds to me that aether is antigravity, especially if it reacts to
ordinary particles by waving.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by particles of matter.

A particle may be likened in a first approximation to a moving
singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

This is not anti-gravity. The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. In a
boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and
the bow wave passes through both.

What you are mistaking for anti-gravity is the aether emitted into the
Universal jet. The analogy are a bunch of objects exiting the mouth of
a river. Most of the objects will move away from one another. This is
analogous to the particles of matter which are condensations of aether
which are moving away from one another as the travel through the
expanding Universal jet.

On Jan 2, 2:15*pm, She's a Witch of Trouble in Electric China Blue
wrote:
In article ,
*Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 27 2012, 5:56*am, mpc755 wrote:
A moving particle has an associated physical wave. In a double slit
experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the
associated wave in the aether through both. As the wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the
particle travels. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
theory. Detecting the particle turns the associated wave in the aether
into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and doesn't
create an interference pattern.

It sounds to me that aether is antigravity, especially if it reacts to
ordinary particles by waving.

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You're at a low window overlooking a huge pit, which extends up out of sight. A
floor is indistinctly visible over 50 feet below. Traces of white mist cover the
floor of the pit, becoming thicker to the right. Marks in the dust around the
window would seem to indicate that someone has been here recently. Directly
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'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587

'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...inty-principle

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."

A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.

What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.

On Jan 2, 11:02*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Jan 2, 1:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 27 2012, 5:56*am, mpc755 wrote:

A moving particle has an associated physical wave. In a double slit
experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the
associated wave in the aether through both. As the wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the
particle travels. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
theory. Detecting the particle turns the associated wave in the aether
into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and doesn't
create an interference pattern.

It sounds to me that aether is antigravity, especially if it reacts to
ordinary particles by waving.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by particles of matter.

A particle may be likened in a first approximation to a moving
singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

This is not anti-gravity. The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. In a
boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and
the bow wave passes through both.

What you are mistaking for anti-gravity is the aether emitted into the
Universal jet. The analogy are a bunch of objects exiting the mouth of
a river. Most of the objects will move away from one another. This is
analogous to the particles of matter which are condensations of aether
which are moving away from one another as the travel through the
expanding Universal jet.

If the displaced aether form of gravity is always inward pushing, it
must be antigravity, which makes its force closer to being equal to
particle created gravity. This could go a long ways towards
explaining the cosmic lens and that of its boost of illumination and
magnification.

On Jan 2, 4:04*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:02*am, mpc755 wrote:









On Jan 2, 1:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 27 2012, 5:56*am, mpc755 wrote:

A moving particle has an associated physical wave. In a double slit
experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the
associated wave in the aether through both. As the wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the
particle travels. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
theory. Detecting the particle turns the associated wave in the aether
into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and doesn't
create an interference pattern.

It sounds to me that aether is antigravity, especially if it reacts to
ordinary particles by waving.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by particles of matter.

A particle may be likened in a first approximation to a moving
singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

This is not anti-gravity. The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. In a
boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and
the bow wave passes through both.

What you are mistaking for anti-gravity is the aether emitted into the
Universal jet. The analogy are a bunch of objects exiting the mouth of
a river. Most of the objects will move away from one another. This is
analogous to the particles of matter which are condensations of aether
which are moving away from one another as the travel through the
expanding Universal jet.

If the displaced aether form of gravity is always inward pushing, it
must be antigravity, which makes its force closer to being equal to
particle created gravity. *This could go a long ways towards
explaining the cosmic lens and that of its boost of illumination and
magnification.

Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.

On Jan 2, 1:11*pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Jan 2, 4:04*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Jan 2, 11:02*am, mpc755 wrote:

On Jan 2, 1:56*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Nov 27 2012, 5:56*am, mpc755 wrote:

A moving particle has an associated physical wave. In a double slit
experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the
associated wave in the aether through both. As the wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the
particle travels. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave
theory. Detecting the particle turns the associated wave in the aether
into chop. The particle gets knocked around by the chop and doesn't
create an interference pattern.

It sounds to me that aether is antigravity, especially if it reacts to
ordinary particles by waving.

Aether has mass. Aether physically occupies three dimensional space.
Aether is physically displaced by particles of matter.

A particle may be likened in a first approximation to a moving
singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

This is not anti-gravity. The analogy is a boat and its bow wave. In a
boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and
the bow wave passes through both.

What you are mistaking for anti-gravity is the aether emitted into the
Universal jet. The analogy are a bunch of objects exiting the mouth of
a river. Most of the objects will move away from one another. This is
analogous to the particles of matter which are condensations of aether
which are moving away from one another as the travel through the
expanding Universal jet.

If the displaced aether form of gravity is always inward pushing, it
must be antigravity, which makes its force closer to being equal to
particle created gravity. *This could go a long ways towards
explaining the cosmic lens and that of its boost of illumination and
magnification.

Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.

But apparently only if you say so.

Can you get one other certified physics wizard to agree with or go
along with that statement of "Displaced aether pushing back toward
matter is gravity"?

On Jan 2, 4:34Â*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

Displaced aether pushing back toward matter is gravity.

But apparently only if you say so.

Can you get one other certified physics wizard to agree with or go
along with that statement of "Displaced aether pushing back toward
matter is gravity"?

The following article describes a 'back reaction' associated with the
"fluidic" nature of space itself. This is the displaced aether
'displacing back'.

'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and
Inertial Backreaction'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a
kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide
further evidence of the “fluidic� nature of space itself."

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a superfluid with properties of
a solid, a supersolid, which is described in the article as the
'fluidic' nature of space itself. The 'back-reaction' described in the
article is the displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the matter.

The following article describes the aether as that which produces
resistance to acceleration and is responsible for the increase in mass
of an object with velocity. The resistance to acceleration is the
displaced aether 'displacing back'.

'Fluidic Electrodynamics: On parallels between electromagnetic and
fluidic inertia'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.4611

"It is shown that the force exerted on a particle by an ideal fluid
produces two effects: i) resistance to acceleration and, ii) an
increase of mass with velocity. ... The interaction between the
particle and the entrained space flow gives rise to the observed
properties of inertia and the relativistic increase of mass. ...
Accordingly, in this framework the non resistance of a particle in
uniform motion through an ideal fluid (D’Alembert’s paradox)
corresponds to Newton’s first law. The law of inertia suggests that
the physical vacuum can be modeled as an ideal fluid, agreeing with
the space-time ideal fluid approach from general relativity."

The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the
mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is
displaced by the object.

The incompressible fluid described in the following article is the
gravitational aether.

'Empty Black Holes, Firewalls, and the Origin of Bekenstein-Hawking
Entropy'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1212.4176

"But why an incompressible fluid? The reason comes from an attempt to
solve the (old) cosmological constant problem, which is arguably the
most puzzling aspect of coupling gravity to relativistic quantum
mechanics [13]. Given that the natural expectation value for the
vacuum of the standard model of particle physics is ∼ 60 orders of
magnitude heavier than the gravitational measurements of vacuum
density, it is reasonable to entertain an alternative theory of
gravity where the standard model vacuum decouples from gravity. Such a
theory could be realized by coupling gravity to the traceless part of
the quantum mechanical energy-momentum tensor. However, the
consistency/covariance of gravitational field equations then requires
introducing an auxiliary fluid, the so-called gravitational aether
[14]. The simplest model for gravitational aether is an incompressible
fluid (with vanishing energy density, but non-vanishing pressure),
which is currently consistent with all cosmological, astrophysical,
and precision tests of gravity [15, 16]:

__3__
32πGN Gμν = Tμν − Tα gμν + Tμν ,
Tμν = p (uμ uν + gμν ), T μν;ν = 0,

where GN is Newton’s constant, Tμν is the matter energy momentum
tensor and Tμν is the incompressible gravitational aether fluid. In
vacuum, the theory reduces to GR coupled to an incompressible fluid."

The following article describes the aether as an incompressible fluid
resulting in what the article refers to as gravitational aether caused
by pressure (or vorticity).

'Phenomenology of Gravitational Aether as a solution to the Old
Cosmological Constant Problem'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1106.3955

"One proposal to address this puzzle at the semi-classical level is to
decouple quantum vacuum from space-time geometry via a modification of
gravity that includes an incompressible fluid, known as Gravitational
Aether. In this paper, we discuss classical predictions of this theory
along with its compatibility with cosmological and experimental tests
of gravity. We argue that deviations from General Relativity (GR) in
this theory are sourced by pressure or vorticity."

The following article describes gravity as a pressure exerted by
aether toward matter.

'The aether-modified gravity and the G ̈del metric'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1109.5654v2

"As for the pressure, it is equal to p = 53−αg,6a2 so, it is positive
if αg 3 which is the weaker condition than the previous one. One
notes that the results corresponding to the usual gravity are easily
recovered. Also, it is easy to see that the interval αg 15
corresponds to the usual matter."

The following article describes a gravitating vacuum where aether is
the quantum vacuum of the 21-st century.

'From Analogue Models to Gravitating Vacuum'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1111.1155

"The aether of the 21-st century is the quantum vacuum, which is a new
form of matter. This is the real substance"

On Jan 2, 4:38*pm, She's a Witch of Trouble in Electric China Blue
wrote:
In article ,
*Brad Guth wrote:

Can you get one other certified physics wizard to agree with or go
along with that statement of "Displaced aether pushing back toward
matter is gravity"?

So you agree you are not a physics wizard.

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So you agree you don't understand what occurs physically in nature in
a double slit experiment nor do you care to.

If you change your mind then read the following.

'Quantum mechanics rule 'bent' in classic experiment'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13626587

'For his part, Professor Steinberg believes that the result reduces a
limitation not on quantum physics but on physicists themselves. "I
feel like we're starting to pull back a veil on what nature really
is," he said. "The trouble with quantum mechanics is that while we've
learned to calculate the outcomes of all sorts of experiments, we've
lost much of our ability to describe what is really happening in any
natural language. I think that this has really hampered our ability to
make progress, to come up with new ideas and see intuitively how new
systems ought to behave."'

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...inty-principle

"Intriguingly, the trajectories closely match those predicted by an
unconventional interpretation of quantum mechanics known as pilot-wave
theory, in which each particle has a well-defined trajectory that
takes it through one slit while the associated wave passes through
both slits."

A particle physically displaces the aether. A moving particle has an
associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the
particle enters and exits a single slit. It is the associated wave in
the aether which passes through both. As the aether wave exits the
slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single
slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference.
This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Strongly
detecting the particle turns the associated aether wave into chop. The
particle gets knocked around by the chop and continues on the path it
is traveling.

What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.

On 1/2/2013 4:38 PM, She's a Witch of Trouble in Electric China Blue wrote:
In ,
Brad wrote:

Can you get one other certified physics wizard to agree with or go
along with that statement of "Displaced aether pushing back toward
matter is gravity"?

So you agree you are not a physics wizard.



Oh man, that struck me funny!






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