"In Search of the Big Bang" (brief review)

Aren't we all!

Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote:

Aren't we all!

Look in any direction - all 4(pi) steradians. Direct exactly in-line
at the end of your gaze is the Big Bang. Idiot.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf

So "The Big Bang" in is infinite directions?????????
What a handy hiding place! The chances of tracing the origin being
infinite also.................

..Jim G c'=c+v

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So "The Big Bang" in is infinite directions?????????
What a handy hiding place! The chances of tracing the
origin being infinite also.................

Hi Jim,

Come on, you know better than that. The theory
also says the universe was homogenous at large
scales so conditions here were the same as
everywhere else. The hydrogen atoms in your body
were made in the bang. You are still making the
common mistake of thinking of it as a localised
explosion in otherwise empty space, or are you
just trolling on a quiet weekend ;-)

George

George Dishman wrote:
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So "The Big Bang" in is infinite directions?????????
What a handy hiding place! The chances of tracing the
origin being infinite also.................

Hi Jim,

Come on, you know better than that. The theory
also says the universe was homogenous at large
scales so conditions here were the same as
everywhere else. The hydrogen atoms in your body
were made in the bang.

G'day George
I think it much more likely that the H in my system has been
in the form of emr particles (of whatever denomination- and including
nutrinos etal), and higher on the nuclear table
an INFINITE number of times. I just happen to be a combination of those
in the H mode at this period.
As for the homogoneity, pop the balloon (in vacuum), and the air LOOSES
its homogeneity. I realise that BB purports that an "external"
expansion carries matter with it, in order to bring about the increase
in volume of the universe, but it doesn't wash!
The air molecules on one side have a gravitational attraction towards
the other side (on average) which discount the homogenous expansion of
the universe--- or is that why anti-gravity is required??

Jim G
c'=c+v

You are still making the
common mistake of thinking of it as a localised
explosion in otherwise empty space, or are you
just trolling on a quiet weekend ;-)

George

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George Dishman wrote:
" wrote in message
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So "The Big Bang" in is infinite directions?????????
What a handy hiding place! The chances of tracing the
origin being infinite also.................

Hi Jim,

Come on, you know better than that. The theory
also says the universe was homogenous at large
scales so conditions here were the same as
everywhere else. The hydrogen atoms in your body
were made in the bang.

G'day George
I think it much more likely that the H in my system has been
in the form of emr particles (of whatever denomination- and including
nutrinos etal), and higher on the nuclear table
an INFINITE number of times. I just happen to be a combination of those
in the H mode at this period.

That would be an alternative view but I
was addressing the apparent error in your
understanding of the Big Bang model. In
that, the hot, dense phase occurred
everywhere, not at a single location.

As for the homogoneity, pop the balloon (in vacuum), and the air LOOSES
its homogeneity.

In the balloon analogy, it is the (2D)
rubber that represents our (3D) space.
The rubber is homogenous but gets
thinner as the balloon swells.

I realise that BB purports that an "external"
expansion carries matter with it,

Nope, we discussed this at length many
months ago. The expansion is of the
three dimensions of space. Go back to
our lengthy thread with Sean.

in order to bring about the increase
in volume of the universe, but it doesn't wash!
The air molecules on one side have a gravitational attraction towards
the other side (on average) which discount the homogenous expansion of
the universe--- or is that why anti-gravity is required??

That is what creates galaxies. Over
short ranges matter is drawn together
by gravity while it is too weak at
longer ranges and the universe
continues to expand.

The cosmological term is required only
because the expansion appears to be
speeding up when it was expected to
be slowing down.

George

Unky Alby inscribeth:
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote:

Aren't we all!

Look in any direction - all 4(pi) steradians. Direct exactly in-line
at the end of your gaze is the Big Bang. Idiot.

Methinks you missed the subtlety, Groucho.

[Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote]:
Unky Alby inscribeth:
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote:

Aren't we all!

Look in any direction - all 4(pi) steradians. Direct exactly in-line
at the end of your gaze is the Big Bang. Idiot.

Methinks you missed the subtlety, Groucho.
[EL]
AL is a genius, of course, because when the probability is infinite
then anywhere should do.
The problem is in the cause that for no reason decided to be once and
for all!
As if a God is making an experiment in her own pace.
Let there be ****.
Let **** burn and emit light.
Or perhaps:
"Let there be all, but where is there if there is nowhere for all to
be."
And God said: "What the heck, let a bang decide for itself to be
anywhere".
And so it was, and God found that the Bang was Big, and God found that
Big is good. :-)
And God said, "Let us make mankind as small as us to see that the bang
was big."
Then God said, "Lat mankind fornicate and produce physicists with very
tiny brains to discover our Bang that was Big and argue not the
ridiculousness of idea."
And so it was, as God said, and earth was filled with clowns.
Then God said, "Let there be an internet and Usenet news-groups to
debate and make fun of us so that we are never bored again." :-)

Hahahahaha

EheheL

EL wrote:
[Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote]:
Unky Alby inscribeth:
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote:

Aren't we all!

Look in any direction - all 4(pi) steradians. Direct exactly in-line
at the end of your gaze is the Big Bang. Idiot.

Methinks you missed the subtlety, Groucho.
[EL]
AL is a genius, of course, because when the probability is infinite
then anywhere should do.
The problem is in the cause that for no reason decided to be once and
for all!
As if a God is making an experiment in her own pace.
Let there be ****.
Let **** burn and emit light.
Or perhaps:
"Let there be all, but where is there if there is nowhere for all to
be."
And God said: "What the heck, let a bang decide for itself to be
anywhere".
And so it was, and God found that the Bang was Big, and God found that
Big is good. :-)
And God said, "Let us make mankind as small as us to see that the bang
was big."
Then God said, "Lat mankind fornicate and produce physicists with very
tiny brains to discover our Bang that was Big and argue not the
ridiculousness of idea."
And so it was, as God said, and earth was filled with clowns.
Then God said, "Let there be an internet and Usenet news-groups to
debate and make fun of us so that we are never bored again." :-)

Hahahahaha

EheheL

no no, that is much simpler, the people didnt yet realised thet the
probability is not mathematics

EL wrote:
[Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote]:
Unky Alby inscribeth:
Too Many Kooks Spoil the Brothel wrote:

Aren't we all!

Look in any direction - all 4(pi) steradians. Direct exactly in-line
at the end of your gaze is the Big Bang. Idiot.

Methinks you missed the subtlety, Groucho.
[EL]
AL is a genius, of course, because when the probability is infinite
then anywhere should do.
The problem is in the cause that for no reason decided to be once and
for all!
As if a God is making an experiment in her own pace.
Let there be ****.
Let **** burn and emit light.
Or perhaps:
"Let there be all, but where is there if there is nowhere for all to
be."
And God said: "What the heck, let a bang decide for itself to be
anywhere".
And so it was, and God found that the Bang was Big, and God found that
Big is good. :-)
And God said, "Let us make mankind as small as us to see that the bang
was big."
Then God said, "Lat mankind fornicate and produce physicists with very
tiny brains to discover our Bang that was Big and argue not the
ridiculousness of idea."
And so it was, as God said, and earth was filled with clowns.
Then God said, "Let there be an internet and Usenet news-groups to
debate and make fun of us so that we are never bored again." :-)

Hahahahaha

EheheL


Dear Sir/Madam (eek!),

I shall build a monument to your bardic genius (on Planet Gremlin, of
course), and it shall be inscribed with your poetry.