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wrote: this is much too coincidental to discount. http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/...llowstone.html From: U. S. National Park Service Website, Geology Fieldnotes - Yellowstone National Park, April 2000 At the heart of Yellowstone's past, present, and future lies volcanism. Catastrophic eruptions occurred here about 2 million years ago, then 1.2 million years ago, and then 600,000 years a go. The latest eruption spewed out nearly 240 cubic miles of debris. What is now the park's central portion then collapsed, forming a 28- by 47- mile caldera (or basin). The magmatic heat powering those eruptions still powers the park's famous geysers, hot springs, fumaroles, and mud pots. The spectacular Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone River provides a glimpse of Earth's interior: its waterfalls highlight the boundaries of lava flows and thermal areas. Rugged mountains flank the park's volcanic plateau, rewarding both eye and spirit. http://www.geolab.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/reversals_e.shtml Reversals have been documented as far back as 330 million years. During that time more than 400 reversals have taken place, one roughly every 700,000 years on average. However, the time between reversals is not constant, varying from less than 100,000 years, to tens of millions of years. In recent geological times reversals have been occurring on average once every 200,000 years, but the last reversal occurred 780,000 years ago. At that time the magnetic field underwent a transition from a "reversed" state to its present "normal state". http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&...newwindow=1&gr oup=sci.space.science&safe=off&selm=bn8vvc%242g5%2 41%40nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history's most massive space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a century-and-a-half ago could happen again. In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole. And I'm suggesting an event an order of magnitude greater. I'm suggesting that the Earth's EMT (electromagnetotoroid) could be stimulated into a mode change and that the effects of such a mode change (from E loop structure to H loop structure) are loss of magnetic field source, mass generation, planetary expansion, the effects of worldwide tensional tectonics which include the rapid subsidence of entire mountain chains, island chains, the rapid rise of new mountain systems, gigantic earthquakes, tsunamis, and sporodic hard radiation showers from solar flares and the impact of Coronal Mass Ejections upon the planet when not protected by a dipole magnetic field. There's a growing number of people (geologists, mostly) who have been introduced to the idea of an expanding earth in the last few years. While most individuals who support earth expansion related geological processes are at disagreement as to the cause or physics behind expansion they are, in most cases, in agreement that Earth expansion is a reality. CCRyder 'email by swapping an 'i' for the 'y' in CCRyder.' |
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"CC" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: this is much too coincidental to discount. http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/...llowstone.html From: U. S. National Park Service Website, Geology Fieldnotes - Yellowstone National Park, April 2000 At the heart of Yellowstone's past, present, and future lies volcanism. Catastrophic eruptions occurred here about 2 million years ago, then 1.2 million years ago, and then 600,000 years a go. The latest eruption spewed out nearly 240 cubic miles of debris. What is now the park's central portion then collapsed, forming a 28- by 47- mile caldera (or basin). The magmatic heat powering those eruptions still powers the park's famous geysers, hot springs, fumaroles, and mud pots. The spectacular Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone River provides a glimpse of Earth's interior: its waterfalls highlight the boundaries of lava flows and thermal areas. Rugged mountains flank the park's volcanic plateau, rewarding both eye and spirit. http://www.geolab.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/reversals_e.shtml Reversals have been documented as far back as 330 million years. During that time more than 400 reversals have taken place, one roughly every 700,000 years on average. However, the time between reversals is not constant, varying from less than 100,000 years, to tens of millions of years. In recent geological times reversals have been occurring on average once every 200,000 years, but the last reversal occurred 780,000 years ago. At that time the magnetic field underwent a transition from a "reversed" state to its present "normal state". http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&...newwindow=1&gr oup=sci.space.science&safe=off&selm=bn8vvc%242g5%2 41%40nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history's most massive space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a century-and-a-half ago could happen again. In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole. And I'm suggesting an event an order of magnitude greater. I'm suggesting that the Earth's EMT (electromagnetotoroid) could be stimulated into a mode change and that the effects of such a mode change (from E loop structure to H loop structure) are loss of magnetic field source, mass generation, planetary expansion, the effects of worldwide tensional tectonics which include the rapid subsidence of entire mountain chains, island chains, the rapid rise of new mountain systems, gigantic earthquakes, tsunamis, and sporodic hard radiation showers from solar flares and the impact of Coronal Mass Ejections upon the planet when not protected by a dipole magnetic field. That is not too far off from what I was thinking. There's a growing number of people (geologists, mostly) who have been introduced to the idea of an expanding earth in the last few years. While most individuals who support earth expansion related geological processes are at disagreement as to the cause or physics behind expansion they are, in most cases, in agreement that Earth expansion is a reality. CCRyder 'email by swapping an 'i' for the 'y' in CCRyder.' http://www.raben.com/maps/ Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? |
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"CC" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: this is much too coincidental to discount. http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Volcanoes/...llowstone.html From: U. S. National Park Service Website, Geology Fieldnotes - Yellowstone National Park, April 2000 At the heart of Yellowstone's past, present, and future lies volcanism. Catastrophic eruptions occurred here about 2 million years ago, then 1.2 million years ago, and then 600,000 years a go. The latest eruption spewed out nearly 240 cubic miles of debris. What is now the park's central portion then collapsed, forming a 28- by 47- mile caldera (or basin). The magmatic heat powering those eruptions still powers the park's famous geysers, hot springs, fumaroles, and mud pots. The spectacular Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone River provides a glimpse of Earth's interior: its waterfalls highlight the boundaries of lava flows and thermal areas. Rugged mountains flank the park's volcanic plateau, rewarding both eye and spirit. http://www.geolab.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/reversals_e.shtml Reversals have been documented as far back as 330 million years. During that time more than 400 reversals have taken place, one roughly every 700,000 years on average. However, the time between reversals is not constant, varying from less than 100,000 years, to tens of millions of years. In recent geological times reversals have been occurring on average once every 200,000 years, but the last reversal occurred 780,000 years ago. At that time the magnetic field underwent a transition from a "reversed" state to its present "normal state". http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&...newwindow=1&gr oup=sci.space.science&safe=off&selm=bn8vvc%242g5%2 41%40nntp1.jpl.nasa.gov Newly uncovered scientific data of recorded history's most massive space storm is helping a NASA scientist investigate its intensity and the probability that what occurred on Earth and in the heavens almost a century-and-a-half ago could happen again. In scientific circles where solar flares, magnetic storms and other unique solar events are discussed, the occurrences of September 1-2, 1859, are the star stuff of legend. Even 144 years ago, many of Earth's inhabitants realized something momentous had just occurred. Within hours, telegraph wires in both the United States and Europe spontaneously shorted out, causing numerous fires, while the Northern Lights, solar-induced phenomena more closely associated with regions near Earth's North Pole, were documented as far south as Rome, Havana and Hawaii, with similar effects at the South Pole. And I'm suggesting an event an order of magnitude greater. I'm suggesting that the Earth's EMT (electromagnetotoroid) could be stimulated into a mode change and that the effects of such a mode change (from E loop structure to H loop structure) are loss of magnetic field source, mass generation, planetary expansion, the effects of worldwide tensional tectonics which include the rapid subsidence of entire mountain chains, island chains, the rapid rise of new mountain systems, gigantic earthquakes, tsunamis, and sporodic hard radiation showers from solar flares and the impact of Coronal Mass Ejections upon the planet when not protected by a dipole magnetic field. That is not too far off from what I was thinking. There's a growing number of people (geologists, mostly) who have been introduced to the idea of an expanding earth in the last few years. While most individuals who support earth expansion related geological processes are at disagreement as to the cause or physics behind expansion they are, in most cases, in agreement that Earth expansion is a reality. CCRyder 'email by swapping an 'i' for the 'y' in CCRyder.' http://www.raben.com/maps/ Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? |
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Bob posted:
Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? Most gave up on this group a long time ago, as a lot of people can't seem to read the "solar" part of the name. Thus, almost any topic in the "fringe" gets posted here rather than those only concerning the sun and solar observations (the real charter topic). Most serious solar observers are on one or more of the moderated e-mail lists, and they tend to be fairly active right now (no TEOFWAWKI ("The End of the World as We Know It") postings though). Its a lot of fun to watch the sun doing its thing right now (especially in H-alpha), considering where we are in the cycle. It was a real treat for me to watch the spectacular activity on the limb last week burst forth into several flares. However, such activity bursts have been known to occur on the cycle's downside, so its nothing exactly new (or alarming). In fact, many of the more impulsive flares tend to occur after sunspot maximum rather than at the peak of sunspot activity. I saw one of the largest ribbon flares I have ever seen only a year before sunspot minimum, so such big outbursts do happen. We are in the decline of the cycle, but not so much that the sun doesn't remind us who is "king of the solar system" every once in a while. Clear skies to you. -- David W. Knisely Prairie Astronomy Club: http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/ ********************************************** * Attend the 11th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY * * July 18-23, 2004, Merritt Reservoir * * http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org * ********************************************** |
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Bob posted:
Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? Most gave up on this group a long time ago, as a lot of people can't seem to read the "solar" part of the name. Thus, almost any topic in the "fringe" gets posted here rather than those only concerning the sun and solar observations (the real charter topic). Most serious solar observers are on one or more of the moderated e-mail lists, and they tend to be fairly active right now (no TEOFWAWKI ("The End of the World as We Know It") postings though). Its a lot of fun to watch the sun doing its thing right now (especially in H-alpha), considering where we are in the cycle. It was a real treat for me to watch the spectacular activity on the limb last week burst forth into several flares. However, such activity bursts have been known to occur on the cycle's downside, so its nothing exactly new (or alarming). In fact, many of the more impulsive flares tend to occur after sunspot maximum rather than at the peak of sunspot activity. I saw one of the largest ribbon flares I have ever seen only a year before sunspot minimum, so such big outbursts do happen. We are in the decline of the cycle, but not so much that the sun doesn't remind us who is "king of the solar system" every once in a while. Clear skies to you. -- David W. Knisely Prairie Astronomy Club: http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/ ********************************************** * Attend the 11th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY * * July 18-23, 2004, Merritt Reservoir * * http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org * ********************************************** |
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David Knisely wrote:
Bob posted: Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? Most gave up on this group a long time ago, as a lot of people can't seem to read the "solar" part of the name. SNIP However, such activity bursts have been known to occur on the cycle's downside, so its nothing exactly new (or alarming). In fact, many of the more impulsive flares tend to occur after sunspot maximum rather than at the peak of sunspot activity. David - thanks for your post. This group may be in the doldrums but you answered a question I have put in more on topic groups without getting an answer - is it normal for the Sun to have so many kicks left in it? As an observer of 2 years, this is my first decent to minimum and it hasn't been what I anticipated. This latest appearance, the ring (or horseshoe), seems to reinforce my unexpected conclusion that sunspots/groups are far less stable than they were 2 or 3 years ago - they develope and fade with greater rapidity. Where before you could count on a group to last 3 or 4 rotations and be more or less recognisable on each rotation, for the last few months each day has been a surprise. Incidentally I made my first solar viewer, a projection scope, in early 2001 and had first light with it on March 28. As luck would have it, this first sight of the Sun was of a group containing the largest sunspot I have ever seen - and the biggest in the cycle. It dwarfed what's going on now, yet there were no shouts of apocalypse. Cheers Martin -------------- Martin Frey N 51 02 E 0 47 -------------- |
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David Knisely wrote:
Bob posted: Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? Most gave up on this group a long time ago, as a lot of people can't seem to read the "solar" part of the name. SNIP However, such activity bursts have been known to occur on the cycle's downside, so its nothing exactly new (or alarming). In fact, many of the more impulsive flares tend to occur after sunspot maximum rather than at the peak of sunspot activity. David - thanks for your post. This group may be in the doldrums but you answered a question I have put in more on topic groups without getting an answer - is it normal for the Sun to have so many kicks left in it? As an observer of 2 years, this is my first decent to minimum and it hasn't been what I anticipated. This latest appearance, the ring (or horseshoe), seems to reinforce my unexpected conclusion that sunspots/groups are far less stable than they were 2 or 3 years ago - they develope and fade with greater rapidity. Where before you could count on a group to last 3 or 4 rotations and be more or less recognisable on each rotation, for the last few months each day has been a surprise. Incidentally I made my first solar viewer, a projection scope, in early 2001 and had first light with it on March 28. As luck would have it, this first sight of the Sun was of a group containing the largest sunspot I have ever seen - and the biggest in the cycle. It dwarfed what's going on now, yet there were no shouts of apocalypse. Cheers Martin -------------- Martin Frey N 51 02 E 0 47 -------------- |
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"Martin Frey" wrote in message ... David Knisely wrote: Bob posted: Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? Most gave up on this group a long time ago, as a lot of people can't seem to read the "solar" part of the name. SNIP However, such activity bursts have been known to occur on the cycle's downside, so its nothing exactly new (or alarming). In fact, many of the more impulsive flares tend to occur after sunspot maximum rather than at the peak of sunspot activity. David - thanks for your post. This group may be in the doldrums but you answered a question I have put in more on topic groups without getting an answer - is it normal for the Sun to have so many kicks left in it? As an observer of 2 years, this is my first decent to minimum and it hasn't been what I anticipated. This latest appearance, the ring (or horseshoe), seems to reinforce my unexpected conclusion that sunspots/groups are far less stable than they were 2 or 3 years ago - they develope and fade with greater rapidity. Where before you could count on a group to last 3 or 4 rotations and be more or less recognisable on each rotation, for the last few months each day has been a surprise. Incidentally I made my first solar viewer, a projection scope, in early 2001 and had first light with it on March 28. As luck would have it, this first sight of the Sun was of a group containing the largest sunspot I have ever seen - and the biggest in the cycle. It dwarfed what's going on now, yet there were no shouts of apocalypse. Cheers Martin http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html Looks like that one went "past" the X portion of the scale |
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"Martin Frey" wrote in message ... David Knisely wrote: Bob posted: Why is this Group so dead when the Sun is Going Nuts? At the Wrong time in the cycle? Most gave up on this group a long time ago, as a lot of people can't seem to read the "solar" part of the name. SNIP However, such activity bursts have been known to occur on the cycle's downside, so its nothing exactly new (or alarming). In fact, many of the more impulsive flares tend to occur after sunspot maximum rather than at the peak of sunspot activity. David - thanks for your post. This group may be in the doldrums but you answered a question I have put in more on topic groups without getting an answer - is it normal for the Sun to have so many kicks left in it? As an observer of 2 years, this is my first decent to minimum and it hasn't been what I anticipated. This latest appearance, the ring (or horseshoe), seems to reinforce my unexpected conclusion that sunspots/groups are far less stable than they were 2 or 3 years ago - they develope and fade with greater rapidity. Where before you could count on a group to last 3 or 4 rotations and be more or less recognisable on each rotation, for the last few months each day has been a surprise. Incidentally I made my first solar viewer, a projection scope, in early 2001 and had first light with it on March 28. As luck would have it, this first sight of the Sun was of a group containing the largest sunspot I have ever seen - and the biggest in the cycle. It dwarfed what's going on now, yet there were no shouts of apocalypse. Cheers Martin http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html Looks like that one went "past" the X portion of the scale |
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http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html
Looks like that one went "past" the X portion of the scale http://www.sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/xray_1m.html |
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