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In message , David Knisely
writes Bert posted: Is it possible that a neutron star might have hydrogen gas in orbit around it? Probably not in orbit, unless there is a nearby star giving it some matter in the form of a solar wind. There may be some on the surface, but not a lot. Does a neutron star have enough force of gravity to cause hydrogen atoms to fuse into helium atoms,and create a fusion bomb? It has the gravity, but such fusion would require a lot of it falling onto the neutron star. In any event, infalling matter might drive the neutron star over the Chandrasekar limit and form a black hole. Isn't just that sort of thermonuclear explosion supposed to be the cause of type 1 supernovae? How do we know that the object at the centre is a neutron star and not a white dwarf as usually thought? And there has been a report of a fusion explosion on a neutron star, though it was carbon and not hydrogen that was involved http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/GSFC/SpaceSci/structure/rxte3hrnuke.htm (further checking finds that it's carbon in type 1s, too, and they don't have hydrogen lines in their spectra, But you're close, Bert !) -- "Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of void" Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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Well close is good in megaton bombs. I wonder what created Jupiter's
great red eye. Are there any theories on it? Was it caused by two opposing gases(like jet streams) Earth's jet stream gives energy to tornadoes. Could a very large meteorite hitting and compressing the very dense atmosphere causing a vortex (whirl-pool)? Could this be a result of Jupiter's very fast spin? Bert |
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Well close is good in megaton bombs. I wonder what created Jupiter's
great red eye. Are there any theories on it? Was it caused by two opposing gases(like jet streams) Earth's jet stream gives energy to tornadoes. Could a very large meteorite hitting and compressing the very dense atmosphere causing a vortex (whirl-pool)? Could this be a result of Jupiter's very fast spin? Bert |
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Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to
read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago which goes like this (paraphrasing)- In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed differentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the speed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and vanish. =A0 =A0oc |
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Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to
read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago which goes like this (paraphrasing)- In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed differentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the speed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and vanish. =A0 =A0oc |
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Hi oc I've asked the same question,and I'm in hopes that I get a
different answer,and is closer to reality. That eye is the biggest storm in the solar system. Could be the biggest planetary storm in the universe?. It shows that one side of Jupiter's atmosphere is more turbulent. Its area is many times bigger than the Earth. I know it is a mystery,and would like to hear theories,and get more information on it. Like does it drift? How much does it drift?. In time is it going to be on the other side of Jupiter? Does the solid surface of Jupiter turn under it? Bert |
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Hi oc I've asked the same question,and I'm in hopes that I get a
different answer,and is closer to reality. That eye is the biggest storm in the solar system. Could be the biggest planetary storm in the universe?. It shows that one side of Jupiter's atmosphere is more turbulent. Its area is many times bigger than the Earth. I know it is a mystery,and would like to hear theories,and get more information on it. Like does it drift? How much does it drift?. In time is it going to be on the other side of Jupiter? Does the solid surface of Jupiter turn under it? Bert |
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![]() "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message ... Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago. which goes like this (paraphrasing)- In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed?0 ifferentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the peed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and anish. oc Yup. that's why there's are two GRSs, one in the northern hemisphere and one in the south. |
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![]() "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message ... Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago. which goes like this (paraphrasing)- In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed?0 ifferentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the peed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and anish. oc Yup. that's why there's are two GRSs, one in the northern hemisphere and one in the south. |
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It may be that the wind differentials vary, sometimes above and sometimes
below the gradient threshold needed to provoke a GRS into being. Once a GRS exists, maybe it has in inertia that lets it persist for a little while if the gradient falls below the threshold. We've been observing the GRS for only a few hundred years, which is a small time compared to the age of Jupiter. Maybe sometimes there is a GRS in the other hemisphere too, but we haven't seen it yet. I seem to remember that there are storm "spots" in the atmospheres of Saturn and maybe Uranus and Neptune too. But I haven't been following the literature closely on the subject. Jerry Abbott "OG" wrote in message ... "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message ... Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago. which goes like this (paraphrasing)- In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed?0 ifferentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the peed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and anish. oc Yup. that's why there's are two GRSs, one in the northern hemisphere and one in the south. |
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