A Space & astronomy forum. SpaceBanter.com

Go Back   Home » SpaceBanter.com forum » Others » Misc
Site Map Home Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

What makes The Earth "spin"



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #81  
Old September 25th 03, 07:13 PM
Jonathan Silverlight
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

In message , David Knisely
writes
Bert posted:

Is it possible that a neutron star might have hydrogen gas
in orbit around it?


Probably not in orbit, unless there is a nearby star giving it some
matter in the form of a solar wind. There may be some on the surface,
but not a lot.

Does a neutron star have enough force of gravity to
cause hydrogen atoms to fuse into helium atoms,and create a fusion bomb?


It has the gravity, but such fusion would require a lot of it falling
onto the neutron star. In any event, infalling matter might drive the
neutron star over the Chandrasekar limit and form a black hole.


Isn't just that sort of thermonuclear explosion supposed to be the cause
of type 1 supernovae? How do we know that the object at the centre is a
neutron star and not a white dwarf as usually thought?
And there has been a report of a fusion explosion on a neutron star,
though it was carbon and not hydrogen that was involved

http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/GSFC/SpaceSci/structure/rxte3hrnuke.htm

(further checking finds that it's carbon in type 1s, too, and they don't
have hydrogen lines in their spectra, But you're close, Bert !)
--
"Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of
void"
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.
  #82  
Old September 26th 03, 12:47 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Well close is good in megaton bombs. I wonder what created Jupiter's
great red eye. Are there any theories on it? Was it caused by two
opposing gases(like jet streams) Earth's jet stream gives energy to
tornadoes. Could a very large meteorite hitting and compressing the very
dense atmosphere causing a vortex (whirl-pool)? Could this be a result
of Jupiter's very fast spin? Bert

  #83  
Old September 26th 03, 12:47 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Well close is good in megaton bombs. I wonder what created Jupiter's
great red eye. Are there any theories on it? Was it caused by two
opposing gases(like jet streams) Earth's jet stream gives energy to
tornadoes. Could a very large meteorite hitting and compressing the very
dense atmosphere causing a vortex (whirl-pool)? Could this be a result
of Jupiter's very fast spin? Bert

  #84  
Old September 26th 03, 04:16 PM
Bill Sheppard
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to
read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago
which goes like this (paraphrasing)-

In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it
must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub
drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the
laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical
velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its
permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed
differentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the
speed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and
vanish. =A0 =A0oc

  #85  
Old September 26th 03, 04:16 PM
Bill Sheppard
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to
read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago
which goes like this (paraphrasing)-

In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it
must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub
drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the
laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical
velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its
permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed
differentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the
speed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and
vanish. =A0 =A0oc

  #86  
Old September 26th 03, 06:36 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Hi oc I've asked the same question,and I'm in hopes that I get a
different answer,and is closer to reality. That eye is the biggest storm
in the solar system. Could be the biggest planetary storm in the
universe?. It shows that one side of Jupiter's atmosphere is more
turbulent. Its area is many times bigger than the Earth. I know it is a
mystery,and would like to hear theories,and get more information on it.
Like does it drift? How much does it drift?. In time is it going to be
on the other side of Jupiter? Does the solid surface of Jupiter turn
under it? Bert

  #87  
Old September 26th 03, 06:36 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Hi oc I've asked the same question,and I'm in hopes that I get a
different answer,and is closer to reality. That eye is the biggest storm
in the solar system. Could be the biggest planetary storm in the
universe?. It shows that one side of Jupiter's atmosphere is more
turbulent. Its area is many times bigger than the Earth. I know it is a
mystery,and would like to hear theories,and get more information on it.
Like does it drift? How much does it drift?. In time is it going to be
on the other side of Jupiter? Does the solid surface of Jupiter turn
under it? Bert

  #88  
Old September 27th 03, 01:56 AM
OG
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message

...
Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to
read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago.
which goes like this (paraphrasing)-


In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it
must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub
drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the
laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical
velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its
permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed?0
ifferentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the
peed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and
anish. oc


Yup. that's why there's are two GRSs, one in the northern hemisphere and one
in the south.





  #89  
Old September 27th 03, 01:56 AM
OG
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message

...
Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to
read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago.
which goes like this (paraphrasing)-


In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it
must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub
drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the
laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical
velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its
permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed?0
ifferentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the
peed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and
anish. oc


Yup. that's why there's are two GRSs, one in the northern hemisphere and one
in the south.





  #90  
Old September 29th 03, 05:20 PM
Jerry Abbott
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

It may be that the wind differentials vary, sometimes above and sometimes
below the gradient threshold needed to provoke a GRS into being. Once a GRS
exists, maybe it has in inertia that lets it persist for a little while if
the gradient falls below the threshold. We've been observing the GRS for
only a few hundred years, which is a small time compared to the age of
Jupiter. Maybe sometimes there is a GRS in the other hemisphere too, but we
haven't seen it yet.

I seem to remember that there are storm "spots" in the atmospheres of Saturn
and maybe Uranus and Neptune too. But I haven't been following the
literature closely on the subject.

Jerry Abbott


"OG" wrote in message
...

"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message

...
Bert, ya done asked before about the Great Red Spot, but didn't seem to
read the answers.g Maybe try again. I read this theory many years ago.
which goes like this (paraphrasing)-


In fluid dynamics, when a linear flow passes a critical velocity, it
must break into a vortex, as seen in a tornado, waterspout, bathtub
drain and the like. On Jupiter, the speed differentials between the
laterally-moving bands of the atmosphere have passed the critical
velocity, with the resultant formation of the Great Red Spot vortex. Its
permanence is the result of the permanence of those wind-speed?0
ifferentials. In other words, if the winds would slow down and the
peed differentials decreased sufficiently, the GRS would shrink and
anish. oc


Yup. that's why there's are two GRSs, one in the northern hemisphere and

one
in the south.







 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Spacecraft Doppler&Light Speed Extrapolation ralph sansbury Astronomy Misc 91 August 1st 13 01:32 PM
Hans Moravec's Original Rotovator Paper James Bowery Policy 0 July 6th 04 07:45 AM
Incontrovertible Evidence Cash Amateur Astronomy 6 August 24th 03 07:22 PM
Space Calendar - July 24, 2003 Ron Baalke Misc 0 July 24th 03 11:26 PM
Space Calendar - June 27, 2003 Ron Baalke Astronomy Misc 3 June 28th 03 05:36 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 SpaceBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.