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Old October 18th 04, 07:38 PM
Tamas Feher
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History's Worst Presidential Candidate

I'd say the current President GWB would be high on the list


We don't try to run your country. Stop trying to run ours.


The problem with your sentence is: it's false. The USA thinks she is the
world police and tries to tell the 6 billion non-US people on Earth how
they should live politically, economically and lifestyle-wise.

The rootless USA people, few of whom know who their great grandparents
were are demolishing traditional cultures worlwide by spreading and
advocating Hollywood junk and the culture of worshiping violance. USA
values individualism over true diversity and its media turns people into
mindless consumer automatons who only make tycoons richers day by day.
The USA confiscates other countries natural resources (especially OIL)
and pollutes international and foreign territories. The US SUV ignorance
eats up all the resources worldwide, spews poisons and makes the globe
unsuitable for future generations. Americans live so carelessly as if
the human paragraph in the history book of Earth is going to end
tomorrow. Stop daydreaming, there is no way all the 290 million of you
can move to Mars. You either make it with us into the future or all of
the Earth will be a dead planet in 70 years.

I'm afraid nothing can stop the yankee's individualistic desire to own
literally everything and indulge in their illusions of self-godness via
greed under the ideology of protestant christianity. When the depository
of objects to own is depleted, they go abroad and loot. The US people
lack brotherly love, their country is the only one which could afford
general medical care but doesn't offer one, not even for children. The
coldness of US people frightens the world and the USA tries to impose
its awkward paragraph-based, de-personalized attorney-executive
"culture" on all other countries. The world understands economy has been
created for the benefit of the people, while the USA thinks all people
exist just for boosting the economy. The world wants a more liveable
planet, but the tremendous US pressure makes this impossible.

Dear yankees, stop spinning at such high RPM. You make so much noise you
suppress the entire planet's voice and in turn you can't hear the
advices the outside world sends to you.

USA = E pluribus unum
(you will be melted if you join or forced to join)

EU = E uno plures
(join us to preserve your diversity via mutual support of countries)

Such basic differences may apparently never change, but the identity of
the new US president could determine whether the situation reaches a
breaking point or remains manageable. Bush's antagonistic approach of
"you are either with us or you are against us" has been coined and tried
by communist leaders in Iron Curtain Eastern Europe between 1945-1956
and all it yielded were revolutions. It was then replaced with the
policy of "if you are not against us, you are with us" and the world
managed to avoid a nuclear WW3. Finally the soviet bloc dismantled
itself.

A slightly more patient U.S. president with just a little respect for
the "rest of the world" would make a tremendous difference. After all,
diplomacy is the art of managing international relations by means of
politeness.

People are not genetically terrorists. They become terrorists
(guerillas) when someone takes away their means of living, deprives them
of their motherland, a foreign power attempts at forcible change of
ethnical standing or shows total disregards for their religious and
cultural values. If you support honestly revising these issues and
balance fist with palm, terrorism will quiet down and becomes minuscule
in 15-20 years. This is what Kerry proposes and it is the only practical
way.

Bush's way is nothing but a repeat of the Gotterdammerung. Learn from
history before history teaches you the lesson.

Regards: Tamas Feher from Hungary.


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Old October 18th 04, 07:50 PM
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Envy is an ugly thing.

Jarg


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Old October 19th 04, 11:28 AM
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"Jarg" wrote in message . com...
"Tamas Feher" wrote in message ...


Envy is an ugly thing.



And we're starting to feel it. I mean the whole "Why is *our* oil un-
der *their* sand, way over there?!" thing.


The US has been such a paradise of relative tranquility because of
their great wealth and their vast natural resources. It didn't pay
to squabble over them because there was enough for everyone.

But squabbles did occur. Native Americans were genocided and evicted
into barren wastelands because greedy immigrant settlers looked at
their land in envy. The Irish lowly workers of two centuries ago hat-
ed the blacks squeezing into their niche. There was slavery, the Civ-
il War...

Yet overall it's been a paradisical state, while the rest of the
world, exploited, populated, and divided into tribes and nations for
millennia had a lot more unrest to deal with when riches from colonies
far away suddenly became an important issue.

Why did the US never pursue colonialism? Because they had everything
they needed right at home, that's why...


But precisely because of that tranquility they're also extremely naive
and inexperienced about what to do if things change. What do you do
if resources run out, peak, become more expensive to "produce" (i.e.
to pump out of the ground), have to be imported from far away all of a
sudden?

That is the point in history we've arrived at right now...



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Old October 19th 04, 03:46 PM
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"Ool" wrote in message
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"Jarg" wrote in message
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Envy is an ugly thing.



And we're starting to feel it. I mean the whole "Why is *our* oil un-
der *their* sand, way over there?!" thing.


You are the first person I have ever known to express such a sentiment. I
don't envy anyone their oil.

Jarg


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Old October 18th 04, 08:14 PM
Orval Fairbairn
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In article ,
"Tamas Feher" wrote:

History's Worst Presidential Candidate

I'd say the current President GWB would be high on the list


We don't try to run your country. Stop trying to run ours.


The problem with your sentence is: it's false. The USA thinks she is the
world police and tries to tell the 6 billion non-US people on Earth how
they should live politically, economically and lifestyle-wise.

The rootless USA people, few of whom know who their great grandparents
were are demolishing traditional cultures worlwide by spreading and
advocating Hollywood junk and the culture of worshiping violance. USA
values individualism over true diversity and its media turns people into
mindless consumer automatons who only make tycoons richers day by day.
The USA confiscates other countries natural resources (especially OIL)
and pollutes international and foreign territories. The US SUV ignorance
eats up all the resources worldwide, spews poisons and makes the globe
unsuitable for future generations. Americans live so carelessly as if
the human paragraph in the history book of Earth is going to end
tomorrow. Stop daydreaming, there is no way all the 290 million of you
can move to Mars. You either make it with us into the future or all of
the Earth will be a dead planet in 70 years.



I think that Tamas has things wrong. The US was formed from the
ttroublemakers, malcontents and dissidents from all over the Earth. They
came here to get away from paternalistic Authority trying to interfere
with their lives and to get away from the petty tribalistic grudges that
have hampered the Old World for centuries. In America, Hungarians don't
hate Czechs, who don"t hate Slovaks, who don't hate Croatians, etc, ad
nauseum.

IMHO, Tamas is simply jealous that he doesn't live here.
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Old October 18th 04, 10:34 PM
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"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tamas Feher" wrote:

History's Worst Presidential Candidate

I'd say the current President GWB would be high on the list

We don't try to run your country. Stop trying to run ours.


The problem with your sentence is: it's false. The USA thinks she is the
world police and tries to tell the 6 billion non-US people on Earth how
they should live politically, economically and lifestyle-wise.

The rootless USA people, few of whom know who their great grandparents
were are demolishing traditional cultures worlwide by spreading and
advocating Hollywood junk and the culture of worshiping violance. USA
values individualism over true diversity and its media turns people into
mindless consumer automatons who only make tycoons richers day by day.
The USA confiscates other countries natural resources (especially OIL)
and pollutes international and foreign territories. The US SUV ignorance
eats up all the resources worldwide, spews poisons and makes the globe
unsuitable for future generations. Americans live so carelessly as if
the human paragraph in the history book of Earth is going to end
tomorrow. Stop daydreaming, there is no way all the 290 million of you
can move to Mars. You either make it with us into the future or all of
the Earth will be a dead planet in 70 years.



I think that Tamas has things wrong. The US was formed from the
ttroublemakers, malcontents and dissidents from all over the Earth. They
came here to get away from paternalistic Authority trying to interfere
with their lives and to get away from the petty tribalistic grudges that
have hampered the Old World for centuries. In America, Hungarians don't
hate Czechs, who don"t hate Slovaks, who don't hate Croatians, etc, ad
nauseum.


It shows in American attitudes and politics, which have tended to be insular and
isolationist until fairly recently. Whatever, all those troublemakers, misfits
and desperate refugees certainly seem to have proven they can do very well given
a chance as a nation I'd say?

The same was once true of the British, a bunch of mongrels from all over Europe,
who somehow managed to build a massive empire across the world from a tiny
island at one time. Diversity and variety makes strength and fortitude in a
nation I reckon, which shows up Hitlers' obsessional notions of 'racial purity'
as the nonsense they are.

IMHO, Tamas is simply jealous that he doesn't live here.


I can't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure that much anti-US feeling throughout
the world is based on that - you have nice toys and aren't afraid to show them
off, and they don't like it. Instead of making their own, some of them want to
break yours - or steal them.
Cheers
Martin

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Old October 18th 04, 11:15 PM
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In article ,
"Martin Reboul" wrote:

I can't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure that much anti-US feeling
throughout the world is based on that - you have nice toys and aren't afraid to show
them off, and they don't like it. Instead of making their own, some of them want
to break yours - or steal them.


And the rest of the anti-US feeling is probably based on the way we
invade countries on trumped-up charges; lie to our own citizens as well
as the rest of the world about everything from global warming to weapons
of mass destruction; try to use the U.N. to legitimize our aggression
when it suits us, and thumb our noses at them when they won't play our
tune; and generally act like we're the boss of the whole world, even
with a leader who can't correctly pronounce "nuclear."

"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize himself." - George W. Bush
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Old October 19th 04, 12:06 AM
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"Joe Strout" wrote in message
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And the rest of the anti-US feeling is probably based on the way we
invade countries on trumped-up charges; lie to our own citizens as well
as the rest of the world about everything from global warming to weapons
of mass destruction; try to use the U.N. to legitimize our aggression
when it suits us, and thumb our noses at them when they won't play our
tune; and generally act like we're the boss of the whole world,



You sound as if you would be much happier in France.


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Old October 19th 04, 06:59 AM
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"Joe Strout" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Martin Reboul" wrote:

I can't speak for him, but I'm pretty sure that much anti-US feeling
throughout the world is based on that - you have nice toys and aren't afraid

to show
them off, and they don't like it. Instead of making their own, some of them

want
to break yours - or steal them.


And the rest of the anti-US feeling is probably based on the way we
invade countries on trumped-up charges; lie to our own citizens as well
as the rest of the world about everything from global warming to weapons
of mass destruction; try to use the U.N. to legitimize our aggression
when it suits us, and thumb our noses at them when they won't play our
tune; and generally act like we're the boss of the whole world, even
with a leader who can't correctly pronounce "nuclear."


Well, I hesitated to mention those, but...

"The war on terror involves Saddam Hussein because of the nature of Saddam

Hussein, the history of Saddam Hussein, and his willingness to terrorize
himself." - George W. Bush


How succinctly he put it. i trust you won't be voting for him?
Cheers
Martin

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Old October 23rd 04, 05:21 PM
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"Joe Strout" wrote in message
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with a leader who can't correctly pronounce "nuclear."


erm, Jimmy Carter has a degree in nuclear engineering, and was the "nuke"
officer on a submarine. He pronounces it exactly the same way that Bush
does.

Once again you totally miss the boat, sport

--
Terrell Miller


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bad measures."
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