START WORK INTENSIVELY ON COLD FUSION NOW!!!

I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator. Yes, yes, I'm
aware of just how daunting a task that breakthrough-of-all-time
would be, but can anyone think of anything more important to
the future of humankind than having a sufficient source of the
energy needed to enable continued Civilization? Without enough
energy to go around, a nightmare world similar to Mad Max could
very well be in our species future. Fossil fuels certainly can't last
too many more decades, especially with hugely populated
nations like India and China making leaps and bounds in their
use of fossil fuels, seeking "progression".
At the same time, the UN could also encourage the continued
advancement in the development and use of devices to harness
the virtually inexhaustible and massive amounts of energy flooding
our little blue/green gem, from the mighty Sun.
If only Humankind could get past the obstacles of Foolish Pride
and stubborn Suspicion, and start working together to solve these
seemingly unsolvable technical challenges. I think, then, it could
be done. But, as I said, the problem of just tolerating each other,
to live and LET live, is absolutely vital.
This is, unfortunately, the hardest nut of all to crack.
I don't remember who it was who said that intelligent civilizations
could only last until the technology was sufficiently advanced to
the point where the means to TOTAL SELF DESTRUCTION was easily
available. It's looking more and more like we may be getting very
near that point. Iran building Nukes. North Korea possibly testing
Nukes YESTERDAY-SUNDAY. International Terror possibly possessing
some type of Nuclear devices, most likely dirty bombs, but full
chain-reactive fission, or even fusion!, explosive nightmare
weapons not completely out of the question. We've been shocked
and surprised before, let's not get TOO sure of ourselves about
what these misanthropists are incapable of pulling off.
My speech has gone on too far. The apples of my eye are pressing
me to use this contraption to have a bit of fun with their friends.
I intend on doing everything in my limited power to be part of the
solution, instead of part of the problem, to make sure my precious
little gremlins can use this thing for many years to come.
Cactus88

nightbat wrote

Cactus88 wrote:

I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator. Yes, yes, I'm
aware of just how daunting a task that breakthrough-of-all-time
would be, but can anyone think of anything more important to
the future of humankind than having a sufficient source of the
energy needed to enable continued Civilization? Without enough
energy to go around, a nightmare world similar to Mad Max could
very well be in our species future. Fossil fuels certainly can't last
too many more decades, especially with hugely populated
nations like India and China making leaps and bounds in their
use of fossil fuels, seeking "progression".
At the same time, the UN could also encourage the continued
advancement in the development and use of devices to harness
the virtually inexhaustible and massive amounts of energy flooding
our little blue/green gem, from the mighty Sun.
If only Humankind could get past the obstacles of Foolish Pride
and stubborn Suspicion, and start working together to solve these
seemingly unsolvable technical challenges. I think, then, it could
be done. But, as I said, the problem of just tolerating each other,
to live and LET live, is absolutely vital.
This is, unfortunately, the hardest nut of all to crack.
I don't remember who it was who said that intelligent civilizations
could only last until the technology was sufficiently advanced to
the point where the means to TOTAL SELF DESTRUCTION was easily
available. It's looking more and more like we may be getting very
near that point. Iran building Nukes. North Korea possibly testing
Nukes YESTERDAY-SUNDAY. International Terror possibly possessing
some type of Nuclear devices, most likely dirty bombs, but full
chain-reactive fission, or even fusion!, explosive nightmare
weapons not completely out of the question. We've been shocked
and surprised before, let's not get TOO sure of ourselves about
what these misanthropists are incapable of pulling off.
My speech has gone on too far. The apples of my eye are pressing
me to use this contraption to have a bit of fun with their friends.
I intend on doing everything in my limited power to be part of the
solution, instead of part of the problem, to make sure my precious
little gremlins can use this thing for many years to come.
Cactus88

nightbat

Ok, Cactus88, I'll get on it right away, oh wait, didn't someone
on these groups say that the end of the oil age was upon us? Didn't they
say they had the engine that was ending the oil crisis. Didn't they say
it wasn't a tale? Didn't a lot of folks flame them but they went bravely
on stating that the US Navy or Big three Auto boys short changed them or
something to that effect? Doesn't he have a buddy named Morituri-Max
that won't apparently leave him alone and follows him around like a
puppy? And what ever happened to Mr.Cagle's none nuclear regulatory
license necessary miniature fusion device?

You sound very urgent about your convictions to help solve the world
crisis of energy demands. Send money now to the Uncle Al save the
children fund. Save energy now, shower with a lover. Stop the presses,
Cactus88 wants a workable solution now. Ok, ok, I'll get on it right
away.


the nightbat

nightbat wrote:
| nightbat wrote
|
| Cactus88 wrote:
||
|| I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
|| an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
|| of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator. Yes, yes, I'm
|| aware of just how daunting a task that breakthrough-of-all-time
|| would be, but can anyone think of anything more important to
|| the future of humankind than having a sufficient source of the
|| energy needed to enable continued Civilization? Without enough
|| energy to go around, a nightmare world similar to Mad Max could
|| very well be in our species future. Fossil fuels certainly can't last
|| too many more decades, especially with hugely populated
|| nations like India and China making leaps and bounds in their
|| use of fossil fuels, seeking "progression".
|| At the same time, the UN could also encourage the continued
|| advancement in the development and use of devices to harness
|| the virtually inexhaustible and massive amounts of energy flooding
|| our little blue/green gem, from the mighty Sun.
|| If only Humankind could get past the obstacles of Foolish Pride
|| and stubborn Suspicion, and start working together to solve these
|| seemingly unsolvable technical challenges. I think, then, it could
|| be done. But, as I said, the problem of just tolerating each other,
|| to live and LET live, is absolutely vital.
|| This is, unfortunately, the hardest nut of all to crack.
|| I don't remember who it was who said that intelligent civilizations
|| could only last until the technology was sufficiently advanced to
|| the point where the means to TOTAL SELF DESTRUCTION was easily
|| available. It's looking more and more like we may be getting very
|| near that point. Iran building Nukes. North Korea possibly testing
|| Nukes YESTERDAY-SUNDAY. International Terror possibly possessing
|| some type of Nuclear devices, most likely dirty bombs, but full
|| chain-reactive fission, or even fusion!, explosive nightmare
|| weapons not completely out of the question. We've been shocked
|| and surprised before, let's not get TOO sure of ourselves about
|| what these misanthropists are incapable of pulling off.
|| My speech has gone on too far. The apples of my eye are pressing
|| me to use this contraption to have a bit of fun with their friends.
|| I intend on doing everything in my limited power to be part of the
|| solution, instead of part of the problem, to make sure my precious
|| little gremlins can use this thing for many years to come.
|| Cactus88
|
| nightbat
|
| Ok, Cactus88, I'll get on it right away, oh wait, didn't someone
| on these groups say that the end of the oil age was upon us? Didn't they
| say they had the engine that was ending the oil crisis. Didn't they say
| it wasn't a tale? Didn't a lot of folks flame them but they went bravely
| on stating that the US Navy or Big three Auto boys short changed them or
| something to that effect? Doesn't he have a buddy named Morituri-Max
| that won't apparently leave him alone and follows him around like a
| puppy? And what ever happened to Mr.Cagle's none nuclear regulatory
| license necessary miniature fusion device?
|
| You sound very urgent about your convictions to help solve the world
| crisis of energy demands. Send money now to the Uncle Al save the
| children fund. Save energy now, shower with a lover. Stop the presses,
| Cactus88 wants a workable solution now. Ok, ok, I'll get on it right
| away.
|
|
| the nightbat

Great! Keep me posted...

nightbat wrote:
| nightbat wrote
|
| Cactus88 wrote:
||
|| I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
|| an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
|| of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator. Yes, yes, I'm
|| aware of just how daunting a task that breakthrough-of-all-time
|| would be, but can anyone think of anything more important to
|| the future of humankind than having a sufficient source of the
|| energy needed to enable continued Civilization? Without enough
|| energy to go around, a nightmare world similar to Mad Max could
|| very well be in our species future. Fossil fuels certainly can't last
|| too many more decades, especially with hugely populated
|| nations like India and China making leaps and bounds in their
|| use of fossil fuels, seeking "progression".
|| At the same time, the UN could also encourage the continued
|| advancement in the development and use of devices to harness
|| the virtually inexhaustible and massive amounts of energy flooding
|| our little blue/green gem, from the mighty Sun.
|| If only Humankind could get past the obstacles of Foolish Pride
|| and stubborn Suspicion, and start working together to solve these
|| seemingly unsolvable technical challenges. I think, then, it could
|| be done. But, as I said, the problem of just tolerating each other,
|| to live and LET live, is absolutely vital.
|| This is, unfortunately, the hardest nut of all to crack.
|| I don't remember who it was who said that intelligent civilizations
|| could only last until the technology was sufficiently advanced to
|| the point where the means to TOTAL SELF DESTRUCTION was easily
|| available. It's looking more and more like we may be getting very
|| near that point. Iran building Nukes. North Korea possibly testing
|| Nukes YESTERDAY-SUNDAY. International Terror possibly possessing
|| some type of Nuclear devices, most likely dirty bombs, but full
|| chain-reactive fission, or even fusion!, explosive nightmare
|| weapons not completely out of the question. We've been shocked
|| and surprised before, let's not get TOO sure of ourselves about
|| what these misanthropists are incapable of pulling off.
|| My speech has gone on too far. The apples of my eye are pressing
|| me to use this contraption to have a bit of fun with their friends.
|| I intend on doing everything in my limited power to be part of the
|| solution, instead of part of the problem, to make sure my precious
|| little gremlins can use this thing for many years to come.
|| Cactus88
|
| nightbat
|
| Ok, Cactus88, I'll get on it right away, oh wait, didn't someone
| on these groups say that the end of the oil age was upon us? Didn't they
| say they had the engine that was ending the oil crisis. Didn't they say
| it wasn't a tale? Didn't a lot of folks flame them but they went bravely
| on stating that the US Navy or Big three Auto boys short changed them or
| something to that effect? Doesn't he have a buddy named Morituri-Max
| that won't apparently leave him alone and follows him around like a
| puppy? And what ever happened to Mr.Cagle's none nuclear regulatory
| license necessary miniature fusion device?
|
| You sound very urgent about your convictions to help solve the world
| crisis of energy demands. Send money now to the Uncle Al save the
| children fund. Save energy now, shower with a lover. Stop the presses,
| Cactus88 wants a workable solution now. Ok, ok, I'll get on it right
| away.
|
|
| the nightbat

Great! Keep me posted...

There is no such thing as "cold" fusion. Many moons ago I have worked
out a way to create "pulse" fusion. It would cost 2 billion dollars,and
use the method i use for my fastest pictures(stopping light) in the
world. This is a lot cheaper Columbia spent foolng with the Russian
Rube Goldberg "Tokamak" My method will work,and comes with a money back
warranty Bert PS Gates where are you?

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
nightbat wrote

Cactus88 wrote:

I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator.

Ok, Cactus88, I'll get on it right away, oh wait, didn't someone
on these groups say that the end of the oil age was upon us? Didn't they
say they had the engine that was ending the oil crisis. Didn't they say
it wasn't a tale? Didn't a lot of folks flame them but they went bravely
on stating that the US Navy or Big three Auto boys short changed them or
something to that effect? Doesn't he have a buddy named Morituri-Max
that won't apparently leave him alone and follows him around like a
puppy? And what ever happened to Mr.Cagle's none nuclear regulatory
license necessary miniature fusion device?

Why cold fusion? I don't think we should be trying to use our limited
supply of water as fuel. We should focus more on solar-based energy sources
that can be converted into alcohol based fuels.

Rick

nightbat wrote

"Richard S. Westmoreland" wrote:

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
nightbat wrote

Cactus88 wrote:

I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator.

Ok, Cactus88, I'll get on it right away, oh wait, didn't someone
on these groups say that the end of the oil age was upon us? Didn't they
say they had the engine that was ending the oil crisis. Didn't they say
it wasn't a tale? Didn't a lot of folks flame them but they went bravely
on stating that the US Navy or Big three Auto boys short changed them or
something to that effect? Doesn't he have a buddy named Morituri-Max
that won't apparently leave him alone and follows him around like a
puppy? And what ever happened to Mr.Cagle's none nuclear regulatory
license necessary miniature fusion device?

Why cold fusion? I don't think we should be trying to use our limited
supply of water as fuel. We should focus more on solar-based energy sources
that can be converted into alcohol based fuels.

Rick

nightbat

Well Rick, agriculture is very heavy fresh water dependent as a
general rule. And Uncle Al previously posted that the researched and
tried present necessary high fuel processing costs payback for corn or
other fuel crop bushel yields to alcohol conversion ratios were not cost
effective. There is a guy over in newsgroup alt.energy.homepower by the
name of Steve Spence that says the use of spent cooking oil in adapted
diesel engines is economical and feasible if apparently only a few know
about it versus sudden mass demand. Wasn't one of the original German
rear engine diesel Volkswagen, Mercedes cars, or didn't the guy who
invented the diesel engine originally design it to run on peanut oil?


the nightbat

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
nightbat wrote
I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator.

Why cold fusion? I don't think we should be trying to use our limited
supply of water as fuel. We should focus more on solar-based energy
sources
that can be converted into alcohol based fuels.

Well Rick, agriculture is very heavy fresh water dependent as a
general rule. And Uncle Al previously posted that the researched and
tried present necessary high fuel processing costs payback for corn or
other fuel crop bushel yields to alcohol conversion ratios were not cost
effective. There is a guy over in newsgroup alt.energy.homepower by the
name of Steve Spence that says the use of spent cooking oil in adapted
diesel engines is economical and feasible if apparently only a few know
about it versus sudden mass demand. Wasn't one of the original German
rear engine diesel Volkswagen, Mercedes cars, or didn't the guy who
invented the diesel engine originally design it to run on peanut oil?

The water used in agriculture, will always remain to be water, continuously
resupplying in a cycle. You can't have a net gain of energy from colf
fusion unless some of that water is no longer water, unless I'm missing a
point of how that works.

That is the same argument I hear about alcohol. Corn does not make an
effective base for alcohol production. So what? Is that the only way we
can mass produce alcohol? Save the corn for the cows.

http://biotech.about.com/library/wee...romgarbage.htm

http://www.iogen.ca/3000.html

http://www.oceanethanol.com/

Rick

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 12:04:40 -0400, "Richard S. Westmoreland"
wrote:

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
nightbat wrote
I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator.

Why cold fusion? I don't think we should be trying to use our limited
supply of water as fuel. We should focus more on solar-based energy
sources
that can be converted into alcohol based fuels.

Well Rick, agriculture is very heavy fresh water dependent as a
general rule. And Uncle Al previously posted that the researched and
tried present necessary high fuel processing costs payback for corn or
other fuel crop bushel yields to alcohol conversion ratios were not cost
effective. There is a guy over in newsgroup alt.energy.homepower by the
name of Steve Spence that says the use of spent cooking oil in adapted
diesel engines is economical and feasible if apparently only a few know
about it versus sudden mass demand. Wasn't one of the original German
rear engine diesel Volkswagen, Mercedes cars, or didn't the guy who
invented the diesel engine originally design it to run on peanut oil?

The water used in agriculture, will always remain to be water, continuously
resupplying in a cycle. You can't have a net gain of energy from colf
fusion unless some of that water is no longer water, unless I'm missing a
point of how that works.

That is the same argument I hear about alcohol. Corn does not make an
effective base for alcohol production. So what? Is that the only way we
can mass produce alcohol?

ethanol? pretty much the only economical way. economic alcohol from
cellulose would be a major breakthrough.
the brazilians use bagasse (cane sugar waste) to make alcohol, but you
run into the same economics.

methanol from coal is doable, but its also an energy intensive
process.


Save the corn for the cows.

http://biotech.about.com/library/wee...romgarbage.htm

yeah, but you need garbage in the first place. you will always get
out less energy than the energy put in to make the product in the
first place.

http://www.iogen.ca/3000.html

http://www.oceanethanol.com/

Rick

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
nightbat wrote

"Richard S. Westmoreland" wrote:

"nightbat" wrote in message
...
nightbat wrote

Cactus88 wrote:

I think the UN should do something useful for once and make
an all out effort to advance the (some say unachievable) goal
of a practical Cold Fusion free energy generator.
snip

Probably there is no possible way the UN can do anything useful due to the
organization being a debating society with delusions of godhood. "No power
there!"