Goodbye.

For much of my life I've been an Amateur Astronomer, past president of
a Astronomical 501 (c) Non profit,sometime politician and currently a
technician at a large multinational corporate call center.

During the last several years I've posted frequently to this group
able sometimes to point a budding amateur in the right direction.

Although at times I've enjoyed hearing from many of you when you see a
beautiful Aurora Borealis, I've been saddened by seeing so many of
these folks who we call trolls spread their nonsense whether it be the
latest theory of why planets orbit the sun or letting us know (as if
we don't know) when the next New Moon is.

I was also saddened 4 years ago to not see more folks here at least
talk about
supporting Vice President Al Gore for President of the United States.

Someone who I would call a fellow Amateur Astronomer.

Perhaps, just perhaps, few of us here who are Americans really believe
in
Astronomy. Or at least we see it from a far different perspective.

This November we will have another chance to vote for a candidate who
believes
that Astronomy is worth doing, someone who will not let the Hubble
Space Telescope fall.

I hope that you will vote for that candidate.

At any rate, as others have done before, I'm saying goodbye and I wish
for all of you Clear Skies.

P. Edward Murray

"P. Edward Murray" wrote:

For much of my life I've been an Amateur Astronomer, past president of
a Astronomical 501 (c) Non profit,sometime politician and currently a
technician at a large multinational corporate call center.

During the last several years I've posted frequently to this group
able sometimes to point a budding amateur in the right direction.

Although at times I've enjoyed hearing from many of you when you see a
beautiful Aurora Borealis, I've been saddened by seeing so many of
these folks who we call trolls spread their nonsense whether it be the
latest theory of why planets orbit the sun or letting us know (as if
we don't know) when the next New Moon is.

I was also saddened 4 years ago to not see more folks here at least
talk about supporting Vice President Al Gore for President of the
United States.

Someone who I would call a fellow Amateur Astronomer.

Perhaps, just perhaps, few of us here who are Americans really believe
in Astronomy. Or at least we see it from a far different perspective.

This November we will have another chance to vote for a candidate who
believes that Astronomy is worth doing, someone who will not let the
Hubble Space Telescope fall.

I hope that you will vote for that candidate.

At any rate, as others have done before, I'm saying goodbye and I wish
for all of you Clear Skies.

P. Edward Murray

Clear Skies to you Ed!
Regards,
-Sam Wormley

"P. Edward Murray" wrote:

For much of my life I've been an Amateur Astronomer, past president of
a Astronomical 501 (c) Non profit,sometime politician and currently a
technician at a large multinational corporate call center.

During the last several years I've posted frequently to this group
able sometimes to point a budding amateur in the right direction.

Although at times I've enjoyed hearing from many of you when you see a
beautiful Aurora Borealis, I've been saddened by seeing so many of
these folks who we call trolls spread their nonsense whether it be the
latest theory of why planets orbit the sun or letting us know (as if
we don't know) when the next New Moon is.

I was also saddened 4 years ago to not see more folks here at least
talk about supporting Vice President Al Gore for President of the
United States.

Someone who I would call a fellow Amateur Astronomer.

Perhaps, just perhaps, few of us here who are Americans really believe
in Astronomy. Or at least we see it from a far different perspective.

This November we will have another chance to vote for a candidate who
believes that Astronomy is worth doing, someone who will not let the
Hubble Space Telescope fall.

I hope that you will vote for that candidate.

At any rate, as others have done before, I'm saying goodbye and I wish
for all of you Clear Skies.

P. Edward Murray

Clear Skies to you Ed!
Regards,
-Sam Wormley

Boy, that's a political statement if I ever saw one. Just a reminder of
whom I'm NOT voting for!

Jon

"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...
For much of my life I've been an Amateur Astronomer, past president of
a Astronomical 501 (c) Non profit,sometime politician and currently a
technician at a large multinational corporate call center.

During the last several years I've posted frequently to this group
able sometimes to point a budding amateur in the right direction.

Although at times I've enjoyed hearing from many of you when you see a
beautiful Aurora Borealis, I've been saddened by seeing so many of
these folks who we call trolls spread their nonsense whether it be the
latest theory of why planets orbit the sun or letting us know (as if
we don't know) when the next New Moon is.

I was also saddened 4 years ago to not see more folks here at least
talk about
supporting Vice President Al Gore for President of the United States.

Someone who I would call a fellow Amateur Astronomer.

Perhaps, just perhaps, few of us here who are Americans really believe
in
Astronomy. Or at least we see it from a far different perspective.

This November we will have another chance to vote for a candidate who
believes
that Astronomy is worth doing, someone who will not let the Hubble
Space Telescope fall.

I hope that you will vote for that candidate.

At any rate, as others have done before, I'm saying goodbye and I wish
for all of you Clear Skies.

P. Edward Murray

Boy, that's a political statement if I ever saw one. Just a reminder of
whom I'm NOT voting for!

Jon

"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...
For much of my life I've been an Amateur Astronomer, past president of
a Astronomical 501 (c) Non profit,sometime politician and currently a
technician at a large multinational corporate call center.

During the last several years I've posted frequently to this group
able sometimes to point a budding amateur in the right direction.

Although at times I've enjoyed hearing from many of you when you see a
beautiful Aurora Borealis, I've been saddened by seeing so many of
these folks who we call trolls spread their nonsense whether it be the
latest theory of why planets orbit the sun or letting us know (as if
we don't know) when the next New Moon is.

I was also saddened 4 years ago to not see more folks here at least
talk about
supporting Vice President Al Gore for President of the United States.

Someone who I would call a fellow Amateur Astronomer.

Perhaps, just perhaps, few of us here who are Americans really believe
in
Astronomy. Or at least we see it from a far different perspective.

This November we will have another chance to vote for a candidate who
believes
that Astronomy is worth doing, someone who will not let the Hubble
Space Telescope fall.

I hope that you will vote for that candidate.

At any rate, as others have done before, I'm saying goodbye and I wish
for all of you Clear Skies.

P. Edward Murray

"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...
For much of my life I've been an Amateur Astronomer, past president of
a Astronomical 501 (c) Non profit,sometime politician and currently a
technician at a large multinational corporate call center.

Congratulations on your achievements.

During the last several years I've posted frequently to this group
able sometimes to point a budding amateur in the right direction.

No problem there.

Although at times I've enjoyed hearing from many of you when you see a
beautiful Aurora Borealis, I've been saddened by seeing so many of
these folks who we call trolls spread their nonsense whether it be the
latest theory of why planets orbit the sun or letting us know (as if
we don't know) when the next New Moon is.

I was also saddened 4 years ago to not see more folks here at least
talk about
supporting Vice President Al Gore for President of the United States.

For what purpose? What would good old Al have offered that Bush hasn't?
For that matter, do we really want Kerry to take the helm?

Someone who I would call a fellow Amateur Astronomer.

Perhaps, just perhaps, few of us here who are Americans really believe
in
Astronomy. Or at least we see it from a far different perspective.

Yes, perspectives can be quite different, yet achieve the same result.

This November we will have another chance to vote for a candidate who
believes
that Astronomy is worth doing, someone who will not let the Hubble
Space Telescope fall.

And who might that be? And are they just saying that to get your vote?
Although I think enough has been spent on Hubble, if I were in the position
where I would want to save it, I'd be suspicious of anyone currently
running.

I hope that you will vote for that candidate.

Again, I don't know who that would be.

At any rate, as others have done before, I'm saying goodbye and I wish
for all of you Clear Skies.

Clear skies and good luck.

Jon

P. Edward Murray

Good reply, Jon. His "goodbye" was sure more than that. And I've seen
no particular astronomy policy discriminators among the candidates
(likely not a big vote getter!) -- though Nader may have said something.

Phil


Jon Kickerston wrote:
"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...

For much of my life I've been an Amateur Astronomer, past president of
a Astronomical 501 (c) Non profit,sometime politician and currently a
technician at a large multinational corporate call center.


Congratulations on your achievements.


During the last several years I've posted frequently to this group
able sometimes to point a budding amateur in the right direction.


No problem there.


Although at times I've enjoyed hearing from many of you when you see a
beautiful Aurora Borealis, I've been saddened by seeing so many of
these folks who we call trolls spread their nonsense whether it be the
latest theory of why planets orbit the sun or letting us know (as if
we don't know) when the next New Moon is.

I was also saddened 4 years ago to not see more folks here at least
talk about
supporting Vice President Al Gore for President of the United States.


For what purpose? What would good old Al have offered that Bush hasn't?
For that matter, do we really want Kerry to take the helm?


Someone who I would call a fellow Amateur Astronomer.

Perhaps, just perhaps, few of us here who are Americans really believe
in
Astronomy. Or at least we see it from a far different perspective.


Yes, perspectives can be quite different, yet achieve the same result.


This November we will have another chance to vote for a candidate who
believes
that Astronomy is worth doing, someone who will not let the Hubble
Space Telescope fall.


And who might that be? And are they just saying that to get your vote?
Although I think enough has been spent on Hubble, if I were in the position
where I would want to save it, I'd be suspicious of anyone currently
running.


I hope that you will vote for that candidate.


Again, I don't know who that would be.


At any rate, as others have done before, I'm saying goodbye and I wish
for all of you Clear Skies.


Clear skies and good luck.

Jon


P. Edward Murray

Phil Wheeler:
I've seen no particular astronomy policy discriminators among the candidates
(likely not a big vote getter!) -- though Nader may have said something.

Nader isn't a candidate.

Bush has demonstrated that science must agree with the right-wing
ideologues who pull his puppet strings, or be rejected. Bush removed
information about the global warming threat from a 2003 Environmental
Protection Agency report; ordered changes to a report that described
damage that would be caused by oil-drilling in the Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge, and deleted information about condoms from government
Web sites. His future budget proposals call for cuts in the National
Science Foundation, the EPA, and the Veterans Affairs Department (yes,
it's an important scientific research organization).

John Kerry has just earned the endorsement of *48 Nobel Prize-winning
scientists*. He has criticized President Bush for relying on ideology
rather than fact in the pursuit of science and repeated his pledge to
overturn the ban on federal funding of research on new stem cell lines.

Now see if you can figure out which one would be more likely to ban
federal funding for research in astronomy and cosmology because their
findings contradict the dogma that the Universe is 4,000 years old.

Davoud

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usenet *at* davidillig dawt com

Davoud wrote:
Phil Wheeler:

I've seen no particular astronomy policy discriminators among the candidates
(likely not a big vote getter!) -- though Nader may have said something.


Nader isn't a candidate.


In your dreams.

Bush has demonstrated that science must agree with the right-wing
ideologues who pull his puppet strings, or be rejected. Bush removed
information about the global warming threat from a 2003 Environmental
Protection Agency report; ordered changes to a report that described
damage that would be caused by oil-drilling in the Arctic National
Wildlife Refuge, and deleted information about condoms from government
Web sites. His future budget proposals call for cuts in the National
Science Foundation, the EPA, and the Veterans Affairs Department (yes,
it's an important scientific research organization).


And this has what to do with astronomy?

John Kerry has just earned the endorsement of *48 Nobel Prize-winning
scientists*. He has criticized President Bush for relying on ideology
rather than fact in the pursuit of science and repeated his pledge to
overturn the ban on federal funding of research on new stem cell lines.


And this has what to do with astronomy?

Now see if you can figure out which one would be more likely to ban
federal funding for research in astronomy and cosmology because their
findings contradict the dogma that the Universe is 4,000 years old.


A very long and illogical stretch from someone obviously from the
extreme left. Kerry has said nothing to support your assumptions.

Phil

Davoud:
Bush has demonstrated that science must agree with the right-wing
ideologues who pull his puppet strings, or be rejected...

Phil Wheeler:
And this has what to do with astronomy?

A great deal.

John Kerry has just earned the endorsement of *48 Nobel Prize-winning
scientists*. He has criticized President Bush for relying on ideology
rather than fact in the pursuit of science and repeated his pledge to
overturn the ban on federal funding of research on new stem cell lines.

And this has what to do with astronomy?

Ask physicists James Cronin of the University of Chicago and Leon
Lederman, former director of Fermilab, who were among the Nobel
laureautes the Nobel laureate physicists who endorsed John Kerry.

Now see if you can figure out which one would be more likely to ban
federal funding for research in astronomy and cosmology because their
findings contradict the dogma that the Universe is 4,000 years old.

...from someone obviously from the extreme left.

Extreme left? That's an understatement, but thank you! I'm a citizen of
the great country that _invented_ the concept of revolution by the
radical left. And thank you for not calling me a liberal! The
right-wing extremists who hold power in this country have pushed me so
far to the left that I'm beginning to wonder if maybe Trotsky and
Lenin, both of whom I have long admired, might have, in fact, been
Reagan Republicans.

Davoud

--
usenet *at* davidillig dawt com