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"Greg Neill" wrote in message ...
"peter" wrote in message om... EXAPERIMENTAL RESEARCH TO DETERMINE WEATHER LIGHT PHOTON ARE DEFLECTED MAGNETIC FIELD,DIRECTION OF DEFLECTION AND AND IF SO WHAT TYPE OF CHARGE PHOTON CARRIES CHAPTER ONE INTRODUCTION 1.0 BACKGROUND OF THE EXPERIMENTAL RESEARCH The sun and the stars are so familar to as that we seldom think of the vast strectch of almost empity space that seperate them from us yet we known that the sun is about 1.15*10^11 meter away from earth and that the next nearest star is about 300000 time as far countless stars have been seen at distance so remote that comprehension almost fail us. Speak for yourself. All imformation from which we have learned about this vast universe has come to us riding swifty astride beam of light. Except for cosmic rays (particles), solar wind, micrometeorites, meteorites, magnetic field measurements, etc. Its therefore true that light can travel freely in empty space. Non sequitur. Why does this conclusion follow? As familar as the sun itself are the shadow rays cast.what we learn from sun light rays as we walk and run along a sunny day our shadow keep pace. Source of light ray are ,sun, star,lamp etc light can be detected by human eye,photocells,photo sensitive substance etc. A ray is aline specifing the direction of propagation of photons. 1.1 STATEMENT OF PROBLEM Light ray from the sun reaches planet surface at varies angle ranging sun rise to sun set. However the resultant angle of this varies angle from sun rise to sun set can be determine by computing the varies angle. 1.2 OBJECTIVE The objective of this experiment was to determine present resultant angle light ray photon ,determine it valve ,to determine weather light rays are deflected by earth magnetic field,determine the direction of delection of light by earth magnetic field,to determine the type of charge photon carry if it dtermine that photons deflected by earth magnetic field. 1.3 IMPORTANCE OF THIS RESEARCH EXPERIMENT The experiment proved that light photons are deflected towards the west by earth magnetic field as light photons transvers through earth magnetic field. The experiment also proved present of resultant angle.The experiment proved that light photon were postively charge. Nope. It proved the investigator incompetent. The investigator (that's you, Sparky), failed to consider alternative hypothesies, failed to incorporate the known effects of atmospheric refraction, failed to perform even rudimentary error analysis, failed to cite references which support his theory, and failed to consider the fact that he really knows squat about physics. What is Sparky can you elaborate please. 1.4 SCOPE OF THE RESEARCH The research was carried out on a open flat ground during a sunny day. The shadow position of the thin straight vertical pole fixed into the ground was marked at hourly time interval from sunrise to sunset. CHAPTER TWO 2.0 LITERATURE REVIEW Photon are particle with zero rest mass consisting of a quantum of electromagnetic radiation. Photon may also be regarde as a unit of energy equal to hf h-planks constant f-frequency of radiation in hertz or second^-1 photon travel at speed of light.Light are electromagnetic radiation of wave spectrum of 4-7*10^-7 meter wave lenght. Light photon has mass as first expreessed by Albert Einstein (1905) Charge particle are deflected by magnetic field and the direction of deflection is determine by use of right hand rule one (RHR1) Bqv=mv^2/r B-magnetic field strength q-charge of the particle v-velocity of the particle m-mass of the particle r-radius of curverture Hey Sparky, the above is most bertainly *not* a review of the literature. It's just more of your unsupported maunder. Where are the citations? Not a single paper or book is cited. OK i will post 2.1 NULL HYPOTHESIS There was significant relationship between earth magnetic field and the resultant angle. An unsupportable hypothesis, since you can't vary the Earth's magnetic field to verify that the effect is due solely to its effect on light. The hypothesis is supported persent of varing angle at which rays from the sun are absorbed on earth surface. NB this experiment does not involve refraction,reflection,defraction,or interference of light ray as in Optical Physic. It a experimental research to investigate weather effect of magnetic field on light ray hence on photon.present of resultant angle less than 90 degree confirm that magnetic field does deflect light photon,hence proves principle of planetary rotation. If i had a 90 degree resultant angle it would mean that light is not afectted by earth magnetic field. Because i got my resultant angle to be 90 degree it confirm that light are bent to the same side hence it eliminate responsibility of refraction.Because if it was refraction the resultant angle would be 90 degree.Due to the valve of average angle E=B hence the diference =0 and cos 0=90.If there was a different in valve of E and B than resultant angle would not be 90 it would be less than 90 CHAPTER THREE 3.0 RESEARCH DESIGIN This research was set up to investigate the present of resultant angle and to determine its degrees to fine of if photon are charge and are deflected by earth magnetic field . Defective. How can you tell if a purported deflection is due to a charge on the photon and not some other form of inter-photon coupling having nothing to do with electric charge? When the deference between E and B is not zero. The side with a smaller average angle indicate how the rays are deflected. from my result it 35.808 that mean they are deflected toward the west.Because if draw path followed by rays in at sun rise to about mid-day it tilted as if toward the east.Hence it that the direction of deflection is toword the west.using right hand rule one(RHR1) .the ray are from the sun into the earth the direction earth magnetic from north to south the direction of deflection your can than determine the type of charge carried by light photon hence photon in general. 3.1 STUDY AREA This research was carried out on sun light rays .The condition under investigation was to determine the if photon were charge and are deflected by earth magnetic field and to also investigate presnt of resultant angle of light on earth surface and determine its degrees. You have not shown that the photon is charged, so this is a false premis. In fact, your hypothesis flies in the face of centuries of experimental results; The photon is not charged. Indication that photon is charge come under chapter five (conclusion ) 3.2 DATA COLLECTION this was done both qualitatively and quantitatively by marking the position of the shadow at time interval of one hour measurement taken were computed to fine out the angle of incident using trigometric function of angle. You haven't shown that you can make measurements accurately enough with the equipment used to give meaningful results. In an experiment there is possibility of error that is why there is error correction. There is a wise saying that if your to keep ask the meaning of ever letters of word of a speck you will never under stand. As told you the rate at which my brain process imformation is extremily high. That is why i am not being i am not a guy from space.If i publish the 23 paper i writing it will change the way physical sic is tough. what physicist known and as been discovered is just a small fraction physical world .E.g can you explain planet rotated in the direction they are rotating in . Present day physic is full of postulated imformation.If give ref source of imformation i usually slum them. Have nice week end and good sunday. Remainder of sillyness excised for mercy's sake. (you using to much of abusive language) |
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"peter" wrote in message om... (Tom Kerr) wrote in message ... You've also ignored requests for you to show that acceleration = velocity divided by time (e.g., ) , and in order to present your "theory", you should address this. That was an error any reader can correct it when i am not perfect i am human that why i brought up this principle in open forum were i can be corrected and if need modification .i sorry for that error it should be a=dv/dt acceleration=change in velocity/change in time Well, Braniac, if you're thinking 1000 times faster than us mere mortals, you should have caught that at the outset. error is un avoidable when typing any way may be when you are at a snail speed ,i had derived it earlier on , that error does not make any changes on the derived equation.The equation i derived is a universal equation from which your can derive an explaination of any physical explaination. Further, since it renders the remainder fo your derivation useless, you'll have to go back and redo it from scratch. One wonders if you can arrive at the same misguided conclusion from another, no doubt erroneous, approach. |
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"peter" wrote in message om... Globe defination is model of earth shaped like a ball showing countries on its surface. its usually mounted on a stand so that it can be turned easily. If you attach a string at the surface.Best if attached at the equator. If you try to pull the string when the is at right angle(90 degree)to the point of attachment the globe wil not rotate.Because the pull you pull with will not be resolve into centripetal force needed for circular motion. centripetal force= the amount of force you pulling with*cos90 cos 90=0 therefore centripetal force=0 therfore no circular motion hence no rotation example If the angle of the pulling force is at 89.88887 degree to the tangent on the surface of the globe. and pulling force is 10 N centripetal force=10*cos89.88887 If 10N pulling force was used when the angle between the tangent at point of attachment on goble surface is zero centripetal force=10*cos 0 =10*90 =900 N [the rest of your gobbledygook aside for the moment ...] cos 0 equals WHAT??? get your calculate cos0 (cos zero)=90 |
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![]() "peter" wrote in message om... [...] cos 0 equals WHAT??? get your calculate cos0 (cos zero)=90 Eeehem - cos 0 = 1.0000000000000 ... both in theory, and on a calculator Thinking to fast now again, are you ? Clear Skies, Magnus |
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![]() "peter" wrote in message om... "Greg Neill" wrote in message ... "peter" wrote in message om... (Tom Kerr) wrote in message ... You've also ignored requests for you to show that acceleration = velocity divided by time (e.g., ) , and in order to present your "theory", you should address this. That was an error any reader can correct it when i am not perfect i am human that why i brought up this principle in open forum were i can be corrected and if need modification .i sorry for that error it should be a=dv/dt acceleration=change in velocity/change in time Well, Braniac, if you're thinking 1000 times faster than us mere mortals, you should have caught that at the outset. error is un avoidable when typing any way may be when you are at a snail speed ,i had derived it earlier on , that error does not make any changes on the derived equation.The equation i derived is a universal equation from which your can derive an explaination of any physical explaination. The error you made unfortunately falsifies the rest of your work. It was not a typo, it was a huge logical error on your part, one which your theory can not survive - any conclusion drawn from you bogus equation will be equally bogus except by pure chance. If you cannot detect simple errors like that, then it is more than unlikely that any of your work is up to par. It also makes one suspect that you don't think 1000 times faster than other people, in fact it makes us believe the exact opposite. ...oO( Dumb as an Ass and unaware of it! ) Clear Skies, Magnus Further, since it renders the remainder fo your derivation useless, you'll have to go back and redo it from scratch. One wonders if you can arrive at the same misguided conclusion from another, no doubt erroneous, approach. |
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"Greg Neill" wrote in message ...
"peter" wrote in message om... Nichols and hull (1901 -1903) experimental measurement of radiation pressure. EXAMINING THEIR EXPERIMENTAL SET UP Why did they use a mirror plate which reflect away light and not a surface which absorb light. Because you get twice the bang for your buck with a mirror; the incoming light dumps momentum when it is absorbed by surface electrons, and then there's the recoil momentum dumped when the light is re-emitted (you did know that reflection is an absorption re-emission phenomenon, right?) They missed the point.If they had used a light absorbing surface the could have discovered that there is an attraction force between the source of light an the surface absorbing light. What they carried out is just bouncing effect of a body under motion. If the had replace the mirror with light absorbing surface they would would have not only found out about Radiation pressure the would have discovered that there was an attraction force between the surface absorbing light and the source of light.as shown in Universal field Equation i derived . Try that may be your win you self a Noble price I am 100% sue in my life time i can win not less than 3 Noble prices. After carring out the experiment with mirror did they replace the mirror with absorbing surface. See above. Not they did not had they replace the mirror absorbing they the would have discovered that when radiation are absorbed by a radiation absorbing surface there will be attraction force created between the source of radiation and the body whose surface is absorbing the radiation. Wild ass speculation. You are drawing an unfounded conclusion from specious reasoning. This type of inter-reaction is found in all type of field radiation. gravitional,electrostatic,electromagentic field) Another unsupported assertion. Electric fields have the benefit of having two opposite charges manifesting them, thus they can exhibit dipolar field configurations and attraction and repulsion. Electrostatic field not Electric field.I can not support my assertion from postulated imformation. Gravity has but one charge polarity, and manifests only attraction. They are represented by Universal Field Equation which i derived. UNIVERSAL EQUATION OF RADITAION FIELD FORCE F=x^2/4kPIr^2 -mvfi Which we have previously shown to be utter nonsense, and which you should also agree is utter nonsense, given your initial gaff of a = v/t right out of the starting blocks. That was an error slum the next reply if ask me of that. I told you that was an error,I have posted a full derivation of that equation.Edited title UNIVERSAL EQUATION. you can derive it over and over million time you will not fine any micro-error UNIVERSAL EQUATION OF RADITATION ENERGY E=X^2/4kPIr - mv^2i ALBERT ENISTEIN (1905)EQUATION OF ENERGY E=mc^2 is not acurrate Fourteen decimal places so far and no sign of deviation from spec. That's not accurate? from universal equation the equation for light photon would be E=x^2/4kPIr-mc^2i were i=1 for a single ray of light photon Therefore energy due to single ray is E=x^2/4PIr-mc^2 E=mc^2 is equated to E= mc^2 This are energy due field motion of photon only they can not be equated to E=hf Enistein tried to derive an equation that will explain all physical properties Because he did not known of the unique inter-reaction between similar field particle he could derive a UNIVERSAL FIELD EQUATION AS I HAVE DERIVED ABOVE You've derived bubkis. Nada. Nothing. Nil. Your physics is as eggregious a transgression as your spelling and grammar. |
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"peter" wrote in message
om... "Greg Neill" wrote in message ... "peter" wrote in message om... All imformation from which we have learned about this vast universe has come to us riding swifty astride beam of light. Except for cosmic rays (particles), solar wind, micrometeorites, meteorites, magnetic field measurements, etc. Its therefore true that light can travel freely in empty space. Non sequitur. Why does this conclusion follow? Note: No response. 1.3 IMPORTANCE OF THIS RESEARCH EXPERIMENT The experiment proved that light photons are deflected towards the west by earth magnetic field as light photons transvers through earth magnetic field. The experiment also proved present of resultant angle.The experiment proved that light photon were postively charge. Nope. It proved the investigator incompetent. The investigator (that's you, Sparky), failed to consider alternative hypothesies, failed to incorporate the known effects of atmospheric refraction, failed to perform even rudimentary error analysis, failed to cite references which support his theory, and failed to consider the fact that he really knows squat about physics. What is Sparky can you elaborate please. "Sparky" is a nickname I've bestowed upon you. 2.1 NULL HYPOTHESIS There was significant relationship between earth magnetic field and the resultant angle. An unsupportable hypothesis, since you can't vary the Earth's magnetic field to verify that the effect is due solely to its effect on light. The hypothesis is supported persent of varing angle at which rays from the sun are absorbed on earth surface. NB this experiment does not involve refraction,reflection,defraction,or interference of light ray as in Optical Physic. How have you managed to eliminate refraction from the mix? Atmospheric refraction is a well documented and measured phenomenon. Every astronomical observatory measures and tabulates atmospheric refraction for their location, and produces a mathematical model for users of the scope to make appropriate corrections. Take a look at: http://ganymede.nmsu.edu/holtz/a535/...tes/node6.html http://www.fv01.dial.pipex.com/sthelp/refraction.htm http://pweb.jps.net/~phyz/BOP/1.10LG...Refraction.pdf It a experimental research to investigate weather effect of magnetic field on light ray hence on photon.present of resultant angle less than 90 degree confirm that magnetic field does deflect light photon,hence proves principle of planetary rotation. If i had a 90 degree resultant angle it would mean that light is not afectted by earth magnetic field. And there would also be no atmospheric refraction. You haven't yet explained why there is no refraction for you experiment. Because i got my resultant angle to be 90 degree it confirm that light are bent to the same side hence it eliminate responsibility of refraction.Because if it was refraction the resultant angle would be 90 degree.Due to the valve of average angle E=B hence the diference =0 and cos 0=90.If there was a different in valve of E and B than resultant angle would not be 90 it would be less than 90 CHAPTER THREE 3.0 RESEARCH DESIGIN This research was set up to investigate the present of resultant angle and to determine its degrees to fine of if photon are charge and are deflected by earth magnetic field . Defective. How can you tell if a purported deflection is due to a charge on the photon and not some other form of inter-photon coupling having nothing to do with electric charge? When the deference between E and B is not zero. The side with a smaller average angle indicate how the rays are deflected. from my result it 35.808 that mean they are deflected toward the west.Because if draw path followed by rays in at sun rise to about mid-day it tilted as if toward the east.Hence it that the direction of deflection is toword the west.using right hand rule one(RHR1) .the ray are from the sun into the earth the direction earth magnetic from north to south the direction of deflection your can than determine the type of charge carried by light photon hence photon in general. Note: Question not answered. Here it is again: How can you tell if a purported deflection is due to a charge on the photon and not some other form of inter-photon coupling having nothing to do with electric charge? 3.1 STUDY AREA This research was carried out on sun light rays .The condition under investigation was to determine the if photon were charge and are deflected by earth magnetic field and to also investigate presnt of resultant angle of light on earth surface and determine its degrees. You have not shown that the photon is charged, so this is a false premise. In fact, your hypothesis flies in the face of centuries of experimental results; The photon is not charged. Indication that photon is charge come under chapter five (conclusion ) You simply make the assertion. You have not shown that your experimental data support this conclusion to the exclusion of other possibilities (like your observed effects are entirely due to refraction). 3.2 DATA COLLECTION this was done both qualitatively and quantitatively by marking the position of the shadow at time interval of one hour measurement taken were computed to fine out the angle of incident using trigometric function of angle. You haven't shown that you can make measurements accurately enough with the equipment used to give meaningful results. In an experiment there is possibility of error that is why there is error correction. Error correction? You haven't analyzed the errors or possible sources of error. How can you make error corrections? There is a wise saying that if your to keep ask the meaning of ever letters of word of a speck you will never under stand. As told you the rate at which my brain process imformation is extremily high. So far, we are not overly impressed. That is why i am not being i am not a guy from space.If i publish the 23 paper i writing it will change the way physical sic is tough. what physicist known and as been discovered is just a small fraction physical world .E.g can you explain planet rotated in the direction they are rotating in . You've been watching 3rd Rock From The Sun, haven't you? Present day physic is full of postulated imformation.If give ref source of imformation i usually slum them. Physics is also full of empirical evidence to back up theory. There are exhaustive efforts to eliminate contending explanations for every effect. Have nice week end and good sunday. Remainder of sillyness excised for mercy's sake. (you using to much of abusive language) Merely saving bandwidth. |
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om... "Greg Neill" wrote in message ... "peter" wrote in message om... The centripetal force acts at a tangent to a circular motion. No! It is a force directed towards the center of rotation of a circular motion. Check any physics text, or even a dictionary. The word derives from Latin roots which mean, essentially, "center-seeking". NB draw circular path with a tangent an put an arrow to indicate the direction of centripetal force. No. A force directed along the direction of the tangent would be a tangential force. If the string is pulled at 90 to the tangent there will be no rotation.the amount force with which you are pulling with which will be resolve into circular motion will be zero due to cos 90=0 If the string is pulled at same direction with the tangent at the point at which the string is attach.there will be rotation of the globe because cos0=90 Your calculator is broken. Here, I'll help you: cos(0) = 1 cos(90) = 0 (angles in degrees) hence maximum amount of the pulling force will be resolve into circular motion(rotation) In this specific case you have exactly the opposite, a centrifugal force: one directed outwards from the center. One can be thought of as the negative of the other. So in fact, for the situation you describe, 100% of the force is resolved into a negative centripetal force. centripetal force= the amount of force you pulling with*cos90 cos 90=0 therefore centripetal force=0 therfore no circular motion hence no rotation In this case centripetal force = -T, where T is the tension on the string. But guess what? It wouldn't matter how much force you apply in this manner, there would be no rotation caused, only linear translation of the globe, because the force applied passes through the center and does not resolve into a torque. You need to look up the following, Sparky: Angular Momentum Moment of Inertia Torque I am trying to explain in the simplest way ever. Get to known How rotation is achieved first. Albert Einstein was known to have said that things should made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. You have gone beyond the simplest possible explanation to the point that your explanation is now wrong. example If the angle of the pulling force is at 89.88887 degree to the tangent on the surface of the globe. and pulling force is 10 N centripetal force=10*cos89.88887 Nope. That would be the horizontal component, *not* centripetal or centrifugal. It would result in a small torque. yes i am explaining how ratation is achieved first If 10N pulling force was used when the angle between the tangent at point of attachment on goble surface is zero centripetal force=10*cos 0 =10*90 =900 N So, it is your contention that a 10N force can resolve into componenents one of which is some 90 times larger than the applied force? Where's the amplification taking place? Another spectacular brain fart, Sparky. That valve was to show to the most simplest way the important of resultant angle less than 90 to the rotation.It show that when resultant is 0 most of the pulling force will be resolve into rotation that is to say cos 0 give 90.Get that imformation first. No. Cos(0) = 1. The common trigonometric functions sin and cos have ranges that lie between -1 and +1. 90 is right out. Nb i have not yet put into account other facts associated with rotation eg friction, I Just combine all factors associatted with rotation as usual you will never under me. Fv = 10N*sin(a) Vertical (centrifugal) component Fh = 10N*cos(a) Horizonal (tangential) component a is the angle to the surface tangent at point of application. For a = 0 degrees, the horizontal component would be 10N. The centripetal (or centrifugal) component would be zero. The resulting torque about the N-S axis of the globe would be 10N*R, where R is the globe radius. May be it will take years for me to explain a word for yor to understand or iam not being more physical . i can not explain any simpler I think the problem may be that you're too simple. You certainly underestimate our ability to understand physics in this newsgroup. NB The stringe represents the rsultant ray.The angle between the tangent at the point of attachment and string repressents the resultant angle.The force your pulling the sting with represents the attraction force between the sun and earth when the surface absorbs the ray. express using universal equation of radiation field force F=x^2/4kPIr^2-mcfi v was replaced by c for light photon speed. Hey Sparky, how about showing us how the forward momentum of a photon is converted into a negative momentum transferred to the absorbing surface? Ever heard of that pesky little conservation of momentum law? X^2/4kPIr^2 is greater than mcfi when light is absorbed at a surface. Mere assertion on your part. This expression is not accepted, as the derivation is wholly specious and spurious. You cannot use one unaccepted assertion to support another. To get the net force of attraction between the source of radiation and ther surface absorbing the radiation you have to get the diference. may be you will now understand this F=(X^2/4kPIr^2) -(mcfi) As above. THE FUNCTION OF EARTH MAGNETIC FIELD IN EARTH ROTATION The main function of of earth magnetic field is to deflect the positively charged photon to toward the west as they transvers through the magnetic field. Unmitigated crapola. The deflection of all photon ray e.g light to a specific direction(toward the west for the case of earth) is very important for achieving a resultant ray of angle when the rays are absorbed on earth surface.It also determine the direction of rotation of earth in right hand screw rule More crapola. what do you mean by crapola Nonsense, garbage, hooey, gobbledygook, bull****. Hey Sparky, show us your calculation of the angular momentum of the Earth's rotation. A step at a time i am still explainning how rotation is achieved. That is grade school physics. Rotation is the result of a torque. Angular momentum takes care of sustaining it. You are trying to imply that a continuous force is required to sustain rotation even in a frictionless system. This is 2000 year old Aristotelian crapola (see definition of crapola above). Perhaps you should now consider the fact that Venus' rotation is retrograde and very small, yet Venus is much closer to the Sun and receives much more sunlight than does the Earth. How does your "theory" (and I apply the term generously) account for this empirical tid-bit? |
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