Russian Moonbase Art -- Original or Stolen??

Russian Moonbase Art -- Original or Stolen??

Here's a newspaper image from Moscow
about a possible moonbase built by Russia:
http://www.kp.ru/upimg/photo/57527.jpg

Is that art original, or is it copied from an
existing Western illustration? I don't
recognize it right away.

Russian Moonbase Art -- Original or Stolen??

I hope it's not NASA. Those solar panels are attached horizontally by
a single point. Great in space, but they'll snap off in lunar gravity.

Neil Fraser wrote:

Russian Moonbase Art -- Original or Stolen??



I hope it's not NASA. Those solar panels are attached horizontally by
a single point. Great in space, but they'll snap off in lunar gravity.



I want to know what's in the sphere on the back of the rover- is that
supposed to be a reactor?

Pat

"Jim Oberg" wrote:
Russian Moonbase Art -- Original or Stolen??

Why do you think it is stolen?

"Jim Logajan" wrote
Why do you think it is stolen?

Tradition.

The Soviets routinely stole space art from Western publications,
painted hammer/sickles on the sides, and published them as
great new USSR advanced plans...

Jim Oberg wrote:

"Jim Logajan" wrote

Why do you think it is stolen?

Tradition.

The Soviets routinely stole space art from Western publications,
painted hammer/sickles on the sides, and published them as
great new USSR advanced plans...

These are 'Russians', Jim.

Our International Space Partners.

The cold war is over. It's dead, Jim.

http://cosmic.lifeform.org

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:06:11 -0500, Thomas Lee Elifritz
wrote, in part:

These are 'Russians', Jim.

Our International Space Partners.

The cold war is over. It's dead, Jim.

I don't know.

Russia, along with France, voted to obstruct the U.S. efforts to ensure
Iraq didn't pass along weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.

Russia keeps pushing for the right to ship fissionable material to Iran.

Russia indiscriminately attacked civilians in Chechnya, which helped
Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization al-Qaeda to make inroads there,
since no one else seems to be willing to defend the Chechen people.

And there is reason to believe that organized crime in Russia has an
influence on the government.

The government in Belarus protects criminals who defraud American
computer owners and telephone companies.

Other countries in the Commonwealth of Independent States appear to be
operating as dictatorships.

So I think it's premature to conclude that Russia has a government that
really believes in freedom, and is in harmony with the United States and
the rest of the democratic world. It still seems to see itself as in
rivalry and conflict with the United States.

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John Savard wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 16:06:11 -0500, Thomas Lee Elifritz
wrote, in part:

These are 'Russians', Jim.

Our International Space Partners.

The cold war is over. It's dead, Jim.

I don't know.

Russia, along with France, voted to obstruct the U.S. efforts to ensure
Iraq didn't pass along weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.

Russia keeps pushing for the right to ship fissionable material to Iran.

Russia indiscriminately attacked civilians in Chechnya, which helped
Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization al-Qaeda to make inroads there,
since no one else seems to be willing to defend the Chechen people.

And there is reason to believe that organized crime in Russia has an
influence on the government.

The government in Belarus protects criminals who defraud American
computer owners and telephone companies.

Other countries in the Commonwealth of Independent States appear to be
operating as dictatorships.

So I think it's premature to conclude that Russia has a government that
really believes in freedom, and is in harmony with the United States and
the rest of the democratic world. It still seems to see itself as in
rivalry and conflict with the United States.

Yes, it rather seems that Russia and the US are now on equal footing
in the freedom, ignorance, fascism, corruption, racism, dictatorship
and democracy departments, now, doesn't it?

http://cosmic.lifeform.org

John Savard wrote:


Russia, along with France, voted to obstruct the U.S. efforts to ensure
Iraq didn't pass along weapons of mass destruction to terrorists.



Well, they obviously passed them on to someone, as we never found
them...I think they flushed them all down the toilet when they heard us
knock on the door and yell "Team America, World Police! We're coming in
NOW!"

Russia keeps pushing for the right to ship fissionable material to Iran.



Actually, we are in favor of that proposal. The idea is that Iran
forgoes uranium enrichment in exchange for getting the Russians getting
them uranium enriched enough for reactors, but not weapons.

Russia indiscriminately attacked civilians in Chechnya, which helped
Osama bin Laden's terrorist organization al-Qaeda to make inroads there,
since no one else seems to be willing to defend the Chechen people.



Oh dear God, are we going to invade Chechnya now?
Oh look...it has oil!: http://www.amina.com/article/oil_op.html
These people are hungry for democracy!

And there is reason to believe that organized crime in Russia has an
influence on the government.



God knows that never happens here. Especially in Chicago.

The government in Belarus protects criminals who defraud American
computer owners and telephone companies.



Shoots down Americans in hot-air balloons also.
Assholes.

Other countries in the Commonwealth of Independent States appear to be
operating as dictatorships.



Hey...do you think United Fruit Company could get the inside track with
these boys?

So I think it's premature to conclude that Russia has a government that
really believes in freedom, and is in harmony with the United States and
the rest of the democratic world. It still seems to see itself as in
rivalry and conflict with the United States.



The fact that it doesn't see us as the guiding light of the world and
most civilized nation in world history shows you just how far it has
drifted from the truth of things. there is only one thing for it, and
that is to torture some Russians in our East European allies' prisons
like we do the Al-Queda suspects.
I'm sure the former Warsaw Pact members would be up for this, and
thoroughly enjoy its entertainment value in seeing Russia get its just
desserts. :-)

Pat

And vise versa.

I laughed when I noticed a Great New Plan for satellites in an Amirican
Magazine:

You can launch comsats into 12 hour elliptical orbits.

Just came 20 years after they invented Molniya.

But a lot of the ideas the Soviets carried out came from Western
sources, or they did them just before the west did them.

Regards

Carsten Nielsen
Denmark