During the middle of the Eocene, about 40 million years ago...

On Nov 13, 6:05*am, "Chris.B" wrote:
On Nov 13, 5:45*am, "Peter Webb" ostrich@au wrote:

You can't halt climate change. Its been happening for billions of years, and
will continue happening. It doesn't seem a problem at all; the earth's
climate has been warming for 150 years but nobody has yet identified any
problems as a result of this.

You haven't been hugging any dying trees, recently, have you?

Well, the polar bear is about to go extinct thanks to global warming.

John Savard

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On Nov 13, 5:45 am, "Peter Webb" ostrich@au wrote:

You can't halt climate change. Its been happening for billions of years,
and
will continue happening. It doesn't seem a problem at all; the earth's
climate has been warming for 150 years but nobody has yet identified any
problems as a result of this.

You haven't been hugging any dying trees, recently, have you?

http://www.horseandcountry.tv/news/s...climate-change

Opening line:

The forests of Scotland could be increasingly at risk ...

Speculation that bad things may happen in the future.


http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/01/deadtrees/

Opening line:

"Trees in western North America are dying at faster and faster rates, and
climate change is *likely* to blame ...

Nor does it note what is replacing the trees, or state whether this is an
improvement or not.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28773860/

Opening paragraph: "... that identified the most probable cause as warming
temperatures"

http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/...zon-trees.html

This was the result of a storm, not global warming.


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE50S0OA20090129

"The worst heatwave in 100 years". The worst recorded heatwave occurred over
100 years ago. So much for global warming.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...eatwave-deaths

Same deal. Worst in 100 years. By their very peculiar definition. Not the
worst ever. Not even by their peculiar measure.


I am constantly amazed by people's gullibility. The climate has been warming
for 150 years, and no one has been able to point out what the problem is.
Australia get heat waves; the Amazon gets storms. Ecosystems have changed
and will change, this has been happening for billions of years.

The AGW people cannot point to a single problem deriving from the earth
having been generally warming for over 150 years. This is despite literally
billions of dollars being spent trying to find connections (researchers love
blaming climate change if they can, as it opens up additional research
funding opportunities).

But despite 150 years of warming temperatures, it is impossible to identify
a single problem this has definitely caused, or a major problem it "may"
have caused.

Yet they want us to believe that despite no evidence of any real problems
after 150 years of global warming, apparently another 30 years and the world
will end.

No, it won't. If we were 80% of the way to global calamity, we would have
very strong indicators now. The fact that in one city in Australia the
emperors were almost as hot as they were 100 years ago, or that there was a
big storm in the Amazon, is not because of global warming. I am sure that
Adelaide had heat waves and the Amazon had storms long before we started
building coal fired power stations.

I might also point out that over the last 150 years the earth's agricultural
productivity has increased approximately ten-fold, people are far less
likely to die from bad weather, and on every possible social and economic
indicator the world is doing extremely well. If this is what happens,
climate change is a good thing.

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So you don't believe in relativity, then?

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"Peter Webb" wrote in message
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So you don't believe in relativity, then?


I believe Relativity makes correct predictions. Do you?

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So you don't believe in relativity, then?

On Nov 13, 11:29*pm, "Androcles"
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So you don't believe in relativity, then?

How do your dishonest tactics help to disprove the magnificent edifice
of Special Relativity, praised by the community of physicists for its
beauty, elegance, and simplicity, and confirmed innumerable times by
diverse experiments, and incorporated into the very design of our
particle accelerators and our navigation satellites?

John Savard

On Nov 14, 2:03*pm, Quadibloc wrote:

How do your dishonest tactics help to disprove the magnificent edifice
of Special Relativity, praised by the community of physicists for its
beauty, elegance, and simplicity, and confirmed innumerable times by
diverse experiments, and incorporated into the very design of our
particle accelerators and our navigation satellites?

John Savard

John,

I suggest you ignore the foul-mouthed infant.

The slightest encouragement and we get the full frontal, "unique
viewpoint", knee-jerk, mooning troll.

Why add one more fool to the forum's troll tally when he is so easily
ignored? For all we know they are all one, and the same, fool.

On Nov 14, 12:43*pm, oriel36 wrote:

All this propaganda must sound great to those who know no better...

Actually, is it just the reverse; those who know better, and actually
understand the math, enjoy relativity quite a lot. It is only those of
you who don't know math and refuse to believe anything you can't
understand who have the problem. Of course, in your case, not only do
you NOT understand math, you also do not understand frames of
reference, you can't entertain 2 thoughts at once, thought experiments
are out of the question, and your ego is so monstrous that you will
never concede a single point to anyone else. In other words, you are a
textbook quack, and proud of it.

I'm sure that you find yourself to be absolutely fascinating.

"Here comes the orator with his flood of words and his drop of reason"
- Ben Franklin

\Paul A

On Nov 14, 1:43*pm, oriel36 wrote:

People who follow relativity and the clockwork solar system of Newton
simply can't enjoy what astronomy has to offer,even the usefulness of
the Ra/Dec system which is causing the problem becomes a corrosive
hazard that is setting our generation apart as the most unproductive
ever to investigate scientific matters and I am not talking about
technological and engineering achievements.

But technological and engineering achievements are the "pudding" in
which the "proof" is found. If Newton and Einstein were all wet, the
technology we've built acting on their advice would not function.

John Savard

Does raise some interesting questions.

Relativity makes some very specific predictions about what happens to
particles travelling close to the speed of light inside particle
accelerators. These are different to what Newtonian physics predicts.

Do you believe that the predictions that Relativity makes concerning what
should happen inside high powered particle accelerators are correct?