Hot Rocks of Venus that are looking intelligent

Speaking of those highly intelligent looking hot rock formations of
Venus, as though having become so unusually tarmac, bridge and complex
community worthy of their looking as though of large artificial
structures, plus having all that surrounding rational infrastructure
appearing stuff, of which would most likely need a fairly good
resource of energy, especially if there's any of that ice cold
Venusian beer to behold.

In physics-101: Energy In = Energy Out x Eff if looking for the
usable work potential of said energy. So, how many mega, giga or even
terawatts of energy for applied work would you need?

On Venus, by day we have the considerable solar energy influx of 2630
w/m2 (the vast majority of which going into those relatively cool
acidic clouds by day. However, by day and night we also have the 20.5
w/m2 of its planetology core energy that's continually leaving via
radiating away from its somewhat newish and thus unavoidably toasty
surface. Together, on average that's at least a thermal dynamic worth
of 1325 watts/m2 to work with (perhaps worth as much as 1350 w/m2
because a few percent more than half of Venus and of its robust
atmosphere is getting illuminated at any one time). But then we also
have the locally buid-up of pressure dynamics by extracting from the
stored energy of 4+ bar/km (from the first vertical km), and that's
not to mention upon whatever local geothermal gas vent of fast moving
and mostly hot S8(sulphur) plus receiving more of that terrific CO2
has to offer.

Can anyone of sufficient physics and/or scientific expertise help, as
to better explain the logic of pressure differentials, such as to
whatever a nearly 100 bar environment of mostly CO2 that's also
hosting a good amount of what its toasty geothermal contributed S8
vapor has to offer, at an atmospheric differential of 4+ bar/km that's
greatest at or below the average elevation, of which is also capable
of including an impressive vertical thermal differential value of 10 K/
km.

Can you or by those you might know of further help, as to explain why
that kind of absolutely nifty pressure and thermal differential worth
of raw energy dynamics via good old physics-101 would not function off-
world (meaning for other than Earth) as a perfectly good resource of
such a highly accessible form of stored energy?

Without ever involving a geothermal gas vent, of which there are many
such active vents on Venus that you'd think at the very least worth an
extra couple hundred K in thermal differential as fully accessible
right at the surface, whereas otherwise just going by way of the 10 K/
km of the first vertical atmospheric thermal offset alone seems rather
worth while of extracting renewable energy from that sort of
environment, not to mention the 4.1+ bar/km that's easily obtained in
almost any desired location and of nearly any given volume that you'd
care to utilize, as well as the vertical km exit velocity potential of
a column of such a thick density worth of atmosphere offering perhaps
as great as 16 m/s, though even 4 m/s of exit velocity should
seriously knock our kinetic wind energy socks off(sort of speak). Can
anyone in Usenet's all-knowing expertise offer those most likely
answers, as to their best swag on whatever the per cubic meter worth
of such a dense atmospheric vapor of thermal, pressure and velocity
differentials has to offer, as to what a given unit of such handy
pressure, thermal and velocity differential has to deliver in the way
of whatever most any Venusian 5th grader could rather easily take
advantage of their surrounding raw energy.

BTW, I can't but help notice the ongoing gauntlet of Usenet's
spermware/****ware trying to trash and/or terminate my poor old PC.
Is there a little something warm and fuzzy that insiders of Usenet or
of those Google/NOVA servers are trying to say?

- Brad Guth

To tell the truth, speaking on-topic and on behalf of those highly
intelligent looking hot rock formations of Venus, as though having
become so unusually tarmac, bridge and complex community worthy of
their looking as though of fairly large artificial structures, plus
having all that surrounding rational infrastructure appearing stuff,
of which would most likely need a fairly good resource of local
energy, especially if there's any of that ice cold Venusian beer to
behold.

In physics-101: Energy In = Energy Out x Eff if looking for the
usable work potential of said energy. So, how many mega, giga or even
terawatts of energy for applied work would you actually need?

On Venus, by day we have the considerable solar energy influx of 2630
w/m2 (the vast majority of which going into those relatively cool
acidic clouds by day. However, by day and night we also have the 20.5
w/m2 of its planetology core energy that's continually leaving via
radiating away from its somewhat newish and thus unavoidably toasty
surface. Together, on average that's at least a thermal dynamic worth
of 1325 watts/m2 to work with (perhaps worth as much as 1350 w/m2
because a few percent more than half of Venus and of its robust
atmosphere is getting illuminated at any one time). But then we also
have the locally buid-up of pressure dynamics by extracting from the
stored energy of 4+ bar/km (from the first vertical km), and that's
not to mention upon whatever local geothermal gas vent of fast moving
and mostly hot S8(sulphur) plus receiving more of that terrific CO2
has to offer.

Can anyone of sufficient physics and/or scientific expertise help, as
to better explain the logic of utilizing pressure differentials, such
as to whatever a nearly 100 bar environment of mostly CO2 that's also
hosting a good amount of what its toasty geothermal contributed S8
vapor has to offer, at an atmospheric vertical differential of 4+ bar/
km that's certainly of greatest potential at or below the average
elevation, of which is also capable of including an impressive
vertical thermal differential value of 10 K/km.

Can you or by those you might know of further help, as to explain why
that kind of absolutely nifty pressure and thermal differential worth
of raw energy dynamics via good old physics-101 would not function off-
world (meaning for other than Earth) as a perfectly good resource of
such a highly accessible form of stored energy?

Without ever involving a geothermal gas vent, of which there are many
such active vents on Venus that you'd think at the very least worth an
extra couple hundred K in thermal differential as fully accessible
right at the surface, whereas otherwise just going by way of the 10 K/
km of the first vertical atmospheric thermal offset alone seems rather
worth while of extracting renewable energy from that sort of
environment, not to mention the 4.1+ bar/km that's easily obtained in
almost any desired location and of nearly any given volume that you'd
care to utilize, as well as the vertical km exit velocity potential of
a column of such a thick density worth of atmosphere offering perhaps
as great as 16 m/s, though even 4 m/s of exit velocity should
seriously knock our kinetic wind energy socks off(sort of speak). Can
anyone in Usenet's all-knowing expertise offer those most likely
answers, as to their best swag on whatever the per cubic meter worth
of such a dense atmospheric vapor of thermal, pressure and velocity
differentials has to offer, as to what a given unit of such handy
pressure, thermal and velocity differential has to deliver in the way
of whatever most any Venusian 5th grader could rather easily take
advantage of their surrounding raw energy.

BTW, I can't but help notice the ongoing gauntlet of Usenet's
spermware/****ware that's trying to trash and/or terminate my poor old
PC. Is there a little something warm and fuzzy that our resident MI5/
CIA spooks and moles as insiders of Usenet or of those Google/NOVA
servers are trying to say?

- Brad Guth

The taboo/nondisclosures about Venus geology, geophysics
(planetology)
Even though the planet of Venus is geothermally hot from the bottom or
core on up, it seems that the toasty and crystal dry Venus surface
(especially of elevated portions) is not too hot to touch with the Ove-
glove, that is unless you're dealing with an active lava/mud/gas vent.

The topographic range of roughly 16 km for Venus also represents an
extra atmospheric range or scope of at least 64 bar(68 bar by season
of nighttime), meaning that the maximum surface pressure of nearly 120
bar shouldn't be unexpected.

That 16 km range (+11 -5 km) is also a rather impressive worth of
geothermal dynamics for such a robust atmosphere that's nearly fluid,
especially of a planet that's currently w/o moon and substantially
smaller than Earth, and having been rotating so slow as w/o hardly any
significant geophysical tidal issues. Imagine on a Venus sunny day, of
boiling off a km column of water, whereas the upper surface water
(fully illuminated by day) is oddly 10 K cooler than the bottom of
that column, and the upper surface pressure has 4.1 bar less pressure
than the column bottom.

Venus has more than its fair share of impressive impact craters
(tricky to accomplish getting such impressive impactors through that
thick soup of such a robust atmosphere), as well as that terrain
offering offset considerations as having fairly newish and/or active
resources of various geothermal muds, lava and gas venting issues that
do not look very old.
http://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/captions/venus/saca.htm
http://pds.jpl.nasa.gov/planets/imag...venus/saca.jpg

Other images worth having a look-see at, especially if planning a trip
to Venus, of mostly places not to land, and of a few rather
interesting sites worth landing at:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...lan_page1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...115s095_1.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hi...c115s095_1.gif

When Venus gives you a serious hot foot:
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/ht...gn_p40698.html
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/hires/mgn_p40698.gif

Venus as imaged from Earth, showing rather nicely within the very same
FOV, using the very same exposure that has the sunlit moon and the
little but otherwise brighter than moon item of Venus to behold.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8-05-13_PM.JPG
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M...8-05-13_PM.JPG

Considering the good density of the CO2+S8 robust Venus atmosphere,
whereas a few thermal degrees difference per km of elevation is
actually rather remarkable, even when limited as to the 50 km
resolution of what the ESA Venus Express mission has to work with
isn't taking those day/night differentials into account.
http://www.spacenewsfeed.co.uk/2007/...er2007_56.html
"Highlands and mountains with elevations of up to 5 km above the
Venusian 'sea level' are about 40°C colder and appear blue in the
mosaic."

422°C(695 K) for the 5 km elevation is actually a good sign of the
geothermally forced nature of what the Venus planetology is doing, as
for keeping its environment rather toasty hot from the inside or
bottom up, and to think there's 10+ km elevations that should yield
yet another drop of 40°C for creating 382°C(655 K) that's still too
hot for naked humans that are not quite smart enough to even wear
their Ove-Glove suits.

For lots more information, just ask.

- Brad Guth


On Jan 3, 5:39 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 17 2007, 7:57 am, BradGuth wrote:



On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:

Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -

If you have a working eye and so much as half a brain (unless it's
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return), you can see
for yourself.

OOPS! apparently seeing for yourself means having an actual brain
that's a little different than what's brown and leaking from between
your butt-cheeks.

- Brad Guth

There is no question as to the orchestrated efforts towards sustaining
the official gauntlet of topic/author stalking, bashings and/or
imposing as much banishment as possible against those of us sharing
the best available truths. There is also no question as to the
orchestrated conspiracy of those in charge of keeping various lids on
tight, such as their having been rejecting everything outside of their
NASA Quran about Venus, and especially tough with any regard to our
moon as being 100% taboo/nondisclosure rated, and it's only getting
worse yet for merely contemplating the usage of our moon's L1, and
otherwise forbid Venus L2.

NASA's swarm like borg collective mindset via uplink.space.com and of
most all the essential Usenet and media worthy groups are included
within the scope of this often faith-based conspiracy to defraud upon
physics and science integrity, often by way of excluding evidence, as
to insure only their side of any given argument/rant gets any credits
for all the good stuff and thereby receives public attention. We also
have to include an honorable mention as to those folks of pretend
atheism, mostly because of their actions being so unusually Old
Testament or otherwise Zionist faith-based cult like imposed upon
blocking and/or diverting such change or revisions of most any kind,
especially if there's any remote chance of outsiders suggesting their
God, creator or puppet warlord had anything whatsoever to do with any
other planet or moon..

This officially imposed gauntlet of infowar and disinformation tactic
is certainly not new or exclusive to the likes of our NASA or of their
Skull and Bones cult, but it's certainly having been put to the full
test each and every time I've shared an honestly deductive thought, of
any subjective interpretation as to whatever's existing/coexisting on
Venus, as only intelligent other life could represent is automatically
rejected because such would make their supposed expertise seem
inadequate if not fraudulent.

In order for this other intelligent life to have survived Venus, it is
not required of any such intelligent life being interplanetary
capable, or even into having radio/microwave technology, whereas the
lack of either or both of those capabilities would have no direct
impact upon others as most likely unlike us humans having managed to
survive upon Venus. This is also not imposing any requirement of
purely natural evolution being the one and only option, as fully
complex species via panspermia, and even by way of intelligent design
is doable and even within the scope by way of our somewhat primitive
Earth standards of getting our stuff to other off-world places. So,
we don't have to insist upon there having been Venusian locals of
purely the natural evolutionary kind, although the ability of complex
DNA/RNA to adapt in order to survive is well known to exist, as even
here on Earth where such highly complex life has been surviving for
millions of years longer than humanity, and within the most dreadful
of places impossible for us humans to survive in the buff.

So, don't even kid yourself by whatever's being said and/or imposed
against those of us thinking and openly sharing outside the mostly
faith-based mainstream status quo box, because we're not the bad guys
here.
.. - Brad Guth

To tell the truth, there is simply no question as to the orchestrated
efforts by those in charge of our private parts, towards sustaining
their official gauntlet of topic/author stalking, bashings and/or
imposing as much banishment as possible against those of us sharing
the best available truths. There is also no question as to the
orchestrated faith-based conspiracy of those in charge of keeping
various lids on tight, such as their having been rejecting everything
outside of their NASA Quran about Venus, and especially tough nuts
with any regard to our moon as being 100% taboo/nondisclosure rated,
and it's only getting worse yet for merely contemplating the usage of
our moon's L1, and otherwise God forbid ever using Venus L2.

NASA's swarm like borg collective mindset, such as via
uplink.space.com and of most all the essential Usenet and media worthy
groups, are very much included within the scope of this often faith-
based conspiracy to defraud upon physics and science integrity, often
by way of merely banishing those they elect to black-ball or by way of
excluding evidence, with the clear intent of their focus as to insure
only their side of any given argument/rant gets any official credits
for all the good stuff and thereby receives whatever public attention
and funding. We also have to include an honorable mention as to those
folks of pretend atheism, mostly because of their swarm like actions
being so unusually Old Testament or otherwise Zionist faith-based cult
like imposed upon blocking and/or diverting such change or revisions
of most any kind, especially if there's any remote chance of outsiders
suggesting their God, creator or puppet warlord had anything
whatsoever to do with any other planet or moon..

This officially imposed gauntlet of such a brown-nosed clownism
infested infowar and disinformation tactic is certainly not new or
exclusive to the likes of our NASA or of their Skull and Bones cult of
peers, but it's certainly having been put to the full test each and
every time I've shared an honestly deductive thought, of any
subjective interpretation as to whatever's existing/coexisting on
Venus, as only intelligent other life could represent is automatically
rejected because such notions would make their supposed expertise seem
inadequate if not fraudulent.

In order for this other intelligent life to have survived Venus, it is
not required of any such intelligent life being interplanetary
capable, or even into having radio/microwave technology, whereas the
lack of either or both of those capabilities would have no direct
impact upon others as most likely unlike us humans, as having managed
to survive upon Venus. This is also not imposing any requirement of
purely natural evolution being the one and only option, as fully
complex species via panspermia, and even by way of intelligent design
is perfectly doable and even within the scope by way of our somewhat
primitive Earth standards of getting our stuff to other off-world
places. So, we don't have to insist upon there having been Venusian
locals of purely the natural evolutionary kind, although the ability
of complex DNA/RNA to adapt in order to survive is well known to
exist, as even here on Earth where such highly complex life has been
surviving for millions of years longer than humanity, and within the
most dreadful of places impossible for us humans to survive in the
buff is the well accepted norm.

BTW, I'd started ranting about the use of a CO2 HVAC/refrigeration
system within the Venus toasty environment as of 8 years ago and
counting (except w/o the "H" because only cooling is required), and to
think that it wasn't even my idea to start with since CO2
refrigeration had been well established by others as of a good century
before. Essentially a Stirling thermal conversion process of such CO2
refrigeration is all it takes, and otherwise via conventional
compressor there's obviously no shortage of dry CO2 or the local
energy that's fully renewable while on Venus.

So, don't even bother to kid yourself by whatever's being said and/or
imposed against those of us thinking and openly sharing outside the
mostly faith-based mainstream status quo box, because we are not the
bad guys here.
.. - Brad Guth


On Dec 8 2007, 1:02 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Venus has only been a little geothermal Ovglove toasty to the human
touch, but of nothing our applied physics and well proven science
can't deal with, including the co2--co/o2 process that'll allow us
mere humans to breath, along with enough Reverse Stirling as a local
habitat cooling process for the task of keeping our beer icy cold and
our private parts just right.

I have few doubts that as of once upon a time those sufficiently smart
ET's (as possibly from that mostly fresh water little swamp of Mars)
did manage to accomplish a real number on us, as they pillaged and
raped mother Earth for all she's worth, leaving us with the mere dregs
and tailings of whatever remained that they didn't wish to bother
with.

Though instead of their arriving from that somewhat iffy Mars
environment, I'm thinking along the what-if lines of their having
arrived out of the red giant phase era of that nearby Sirius star/
solar system, that might have unavoidably donated one of their icy
Oort cloud protomoons and perhaps even having donated the likes of
Venus from otherwise getting itself summarily nailed into Sirius A or
B.

Perhaps after these god like ETs having sucked Earth dry(sort of
speak) they'd moved on to Venus where there were much fewer if any
locals to enslave, but otherwise having nearly unlimited natural
mineral resources as well as for having unlimited local energy for the
task of processing whatever on behalf of creating most anything they'd
care to do.

Would you folks like to see for yourself, as to what a really big and
impressive Venus style tarmac and adjoining community of rational
infrastructure looks like?

Are you folks still with me?
- Brad Guth

On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:

Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -

Attention News Media; All the sudden there's absolutely no what-if
expertise to behold, no other science and apparently even their off-
world laws of physics simply do not work on behalf of Venus.

Here's an extremely nearby planet that's physically Earth terrain like
(exactly as though it once had a substantial moon), hosting some very
large artificial looking features that only so happen to seem as
though of perfectly intelligent, rational and along with their having
a community like infrastructure, and lo and behold the entire swarm of
all-knowing Usenet wizards are without a clue as to how little old me
came into discovering all of this, and having since uncovered so much
other perfectly good information about Venus that makes perfect
physics and science sense.

Of course for the past 8 years and counting it has taken most
everything they've got just for sustaining their cloak and dagger
focus of topic/author stalking, bashing and banishment, especially
applied upon anyone having figured out their pretend atheism (aka
Third Reich) Old Testament code of their systematic suckology and
brown-nosism.

- Brad Guth


On Jan 11, 7:13 am, BradGuth wrote:
There is no question as to the orchestrated efforts towards sustaining
the official gauntlet of topic/author stalking, bashings and/or
imposing as much banishment as possible against those of us sharing
the best available truths. There is also no question as to the
orchestrated conspiracy of those in charge of keeping various lids on
tight, such as their having been rejecting everything outside of their
NASA Quran about Venus, and especially tough with any regard to our
moon as being 100% taboo/nondisclosure rated, and it's only getting
worse yet for merely contemplating the usage of our moon's L1, and
otherwise forbid Venus L2.

NASA's swarm like borg collective mindset via uplink.space.com and of
most all the essential Usenet and media worthy groups are included
within the scope of this often faith-based conspiracy to defraud upon
physics and science integrity, often by way of excluding evidence, as
to insure only their side of any given argument/rant gets any credits
for all the good stuff and thereby receives public attention. We also
have to include an honorable mention as to those folks of pretend
atheism, mostly because of their actions being so unusually Old
Testament or otherwise Zionist faith-based cult like imposed upon
blocking and/or diverting such change or revisions of most any kind,
especially if there's any remote chance of outsiders suggesting their
God, creator or puppet warlord had anything whatsoever to do with any
other planet or moon..

This officially imposed gauntlet of infowar and disinformation tactic
is certainly not new or exclusive to the likes of our NASA or of their
Skull and Bones cult, but it's certainly having been put to the full
test each and every time I've shared an honestly deductive thought, of
any subjective interpretation as to whatever's existing/coexisting on
Venus, as only intelligent other life could represent is automatically
rejected because such would make their supposed expertise seem
inadequate if not fraudulent.

In order for this other intelligent life to have survived Venus, it is
not required of any such intelligent life being interplanetary
capable, or even into having radio/microwave technology, whereas the
lack of either or both of those capabilities would have no direct
impact upon others as most likely unlike us humans having managed to
survive upon Venus. This is also not imposing any requirement of
purely natural evolution being the one and only option, as fully
complex species via panspermia, and even by way of intelligent design
is doable and even within the scope by way of our somewhat primitive
Earth standards of getting our stuff to other off-world places. So,
we don't have to insist upon there having been Venusian locals of
purely the natural evolutionary kind, although the ability of complex
DNA/RNA to adapt in order to survive is well known to exist, as even
here on Earth where such highly complex life has been surviving for
millions of years longer than humanity, and within the most dreadful
of places impossible for us humans to survive in the buff.

So, don't even kid yourself by whatever's being said and/or imposed
against those of us thinking and openly sharing outside the mostly
faith-based mainstream status quo box, because we're not the bad guys
here.
. - Brad Guth

Notice all of the topic/author banishment except for those pesky MI5/
CIA spooks, moles and official mainstream rusemasters doing all they
can to damage and/or to traumatize those of us sharing in the best
available truths. Of course that is faith-based business as per Skull
and Bones usual, as well as why their having created 9/11 and we are
at war, headed towards WWIII because of their global fossil fuel
domination plan (especially that part about or taking of or
elimination of Muslim oil) hasn't been going as well as hoped.

Too bad we can't even focus upon getting POOF City established at
Venus L2, much less of any Clarke Station or LSE-CM/ISS within our
Moon's L1. Perhaps China and India will help us out of this mess as
having been created by those Old Testament thumping puppeteers in
charge of our resident LLPOF warlord(GW Bush).

At least as far as we know, Venus isn't Islamic/Muslim, but of course
that notion could change if we actually took a closer look-see, much
the same as those ETs with their extremely big and flashy UFOs are
looking at us, except for merely a good laugh (must be why Texas is
getting the most recent ET attention, because Texas is funny).
- Brad Guth


On Jan 11, 7:13 am, BradGuth wrote:
There is no question as to the orchestrated efforts towards sustaining
the official gauntlet of topic/author stalking, bashings and/or
imposing as much banishment as possible against those of us sharing
the best available truths. There is also no question as to the
orchestrated conspiracy of those in charge of keeping various lids on
tight, such as their having been rejecting everything outside of their
NASA Quran about Venus, and especially tough with any regard to our
moon as being 100% taboo/nondisclosure rated, and it's only getting
worse yet for merely contemplating the usage of our moon's L1, and
otherwise forbid Venus L2.

NASA's swarm like borg collective mindset via uplink.space.com and of
most all the essential Usenet and media worthy groups are included
within the scope of this often faith-based conspiracy to defraud upon
physics and science integrity, often by way of excluding evidence, as
to insure only their side of any given argument/rant gets any credits
for all the good stuff and thereby receives public attention. We also
have to include an honorable mention as to those folks of pretend
atheism, mostly because of their actions being so unusually Old
Testament or otherwise Zionist faith-based cult like imposed upon
blocking and/or diverting such change or revisions of most any kind,
especially if there's any remote chance of outsiders suggesting their
God, creator or puppet warlord had anything whatsoever to do with any
other planet or moon..

This officially imposed gauntlet of infowar and disinformation tactic
is certainly not new or exclusive to the likes of our NASA or of their
Skull and Bones cult, but it's certainly having been put to the full
test each and every time I've shared an honestly deductive thought, of
any subjective interpretation as to whatever's existing/coexisting on
Venus, as only intelligent other life could represent is automatically
rejected because such would make their supposed expertise seem
inadequate if not fraudulent.

In order for this other intelligent life to have survived Venus, it is
not required of any such intelligent life being interplanetary
capable, or even into having radio/microwave technology, whereas the
lack of either or both of those capabilities would have no direct
impact upon others as most likely unlike us humans having managed to
survive upon Venus. This is also not imposing any requirement of
purely natural evolution being the one and only option, as fully
complex species via panspermia, and even by way of intelligent design
is doable and even within the scope by way of our somewhat primitive
Earth standards of getting our stuff to other off-world places. So,
we don't have to insist upon there having been Venusian locals of
purely the natural evolutionary kind, although the ability of complex
DNA/RNA to adapt in order to survive is well known to exist, as even
here on Earth where such highly complex life has been surviving for
millions of years longer than humanity, and within the most dreadful
of places impossible for us humans to survive in the buff.

So, don't even kid yourself by whatever's being said and/or imposed
against those of us thinking and openly sharing outside the mostly
faith-based mainstream status quo box, because we're not the bad guys
here.
. - Brad Guth

Where's all the supposed "right stuff" of Usenet expertise in
everything under the sun, such as whenever it comes down to whatever
the planet Venus has to offer?

Why are supposedly smart folks (especially pretend-atheists) so
deathly afraid of Venus?

Why are radar images of 36 confirming looks per pixel and of that
nearly 3D format so unusually taboo? (is it a Muslim thing?)

Why is other intelligent life as having been existing/coexisting on
Venus such a problem?

Why is POOF City as established at Venus L2 such a testy topic? (if
anything that's unlike our moon's L1, VL2 is somewhat cold and w/o
gamma)
.. - Brad Guth


On Jan 11, 7:13 am, BradGuth wrote:
There is no question as to the orchestrated efforts towards sustaining
the official gauntlet of topic/author stalking, bashings and/or
imposing as much banishment as possible against those of us sharing
the best available truths. There is also no question as to the
orchestrated conspiracy of those in charge of keeping various lids on
tight, such as their having been rejecting everything outside of their
NASA Quran aboutVenus, and especially tough with any regard to our
moon as being 100% taboo/nondisclosure rated, and it's only getting
worse yet for merely contemplating the usage of our moon's L1, and
otherwise forbidVenusL2.

NASA's swarm like borg collective mindset via uplink.space.com and of
most all the essential Usenet and media worthy groups are included
within the scope of this often faith-based conspiracy to defraud upon
physics and science integrity, often by way of excluding evidence, as
to insure only their side of any given argument/rant gets any credits
for all the good stuff and thereby receives public attention. We also
have to include an honorable mention as to those folks of pretend
atheism, mostly because of their actions being so unusually Old
Testament or otherwise Zionist faith-based cult like imposed upon
blocking and/or diverting such change or revisions of most any kind,
especially if there's any remote chance of outsiders suggesting their
God, creator or puppet warlord had anything whatsoever to do with any
other planet or moon..

This officially imposed gauntlet of infowar and disinformation tactic
is certainly not new or exclusive to the likes of our NASA or of their
Skull and Bones cult, but it's certainly having been put to the full
test each and every time I've shared an honestly deductive thought, of
any subjective interpretation as to whatever's existing/coexisting onVenus, as only intelligent other life could represent is automatically
rejected because such would make their supposed expertise seem
inadequate if not fraudulent.

In order for this other intelligent life to have survivedVenus, it is
not required of any such intelligent life being interplanetary
capable, or even into having radio/microwave technology, whereas the
lack of either or both of those capabilities would have no direct
impact upon others as most likely unlike us humans having managed to
survive uponVenus. This is also not imposing any requirement of
purely natural evolution being the one and only option, as fully
complex species via panspermia, and even by way of intelligent design
is doable and even within the scope by way of our somewhat primitive
Earth standards of getting our stuff to other off-world places. So,
we don't have to insist upon there having been Venusian locals of
purely the natural evolutionary kind, although the ability of complex
DNA/RNA to adapt in order to survive is well known to exist, as even
here on Earth where such highly complex life has been surviving for
millions of years longer than humanity, and within the most dreadful
of places impossible for us humans to survive in the buff.

So, don't even kid yourself by whatever's being said and/or imposed
against those of us thinking and openly sharing outside the mostly
faith-based mainstream status quo box, because we're not the bad guys
here.
. - BradGuth

On Feb 7, 7:20*am, BradGuth warned us about
Venus:
http://www.newsgroper.com/w/wp-conte...nk4_image1.jpg

On Feb 7, 5:44 am, eyeball wrote:
On Feb 7, 7:20 am, BradGuth warned us about
Venus:http://www.newsgroper.com/w/wp-conte...nk4_image1.jpg

Interesting total lack of topic input, much less constructive or in
any way informative.

Did you learn this Semitic tactic in Third Reich boot camp, or was it
entirely brown-nose self taught?

BTW, got a real name? (didn't think so)
.. - Brad Guth