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  #51  
Old January 8th 10, 08:16 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.shuttle
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On Jan 8, 2:20*pm, OM wrote:
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 03:54:36 -0800 (PST), Me
wrote:

Again, you demonstrate the reasons that you were rightly banned.


...You one again conveniently ignore the point, you ignorant son of a
bitch. I broke not *one* *single* *rule* on NSF. You and Dwayne led a
smear campaign, and I was tried by a kangaroo court. Had a real judge
been presiding over this case, you *******s would have wound up having
the book thrown at you.

Once an asshole, always an asshole


...An asshole has class. You are just a jerk. More specifically, a
jerk*off*.


Not in the real world. Asshole is lower than a jerk.

There was no smear, just the truth.
  #52  
Old January 8th 10, 09:36 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics
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"Jorge R. Frank" wrote:

101 - Seattle Museum of Flight


...Arguments against that are cost. Last I heard. SMF's having some
financial difficulties. Nothing door-closing yet, but enough to rule
out building a special extension for something like a Shuttle.


Last I heard, their building is large enough.


If they dump the rest of their collection, sure - the building they
have is stuffed to the gills. Otherwise, no. (Based on the
conditions at the SMF last time I was there, about three years ago. I
haven't heard of any construction effort.)

In fact, they've started parking aircraft across Marginal Way west of
the museum.

They may be banking on borrowing hangar space from Boeing, but I can't
see that happening. The southern hangar area is stuffed with
classified military aircraft and the northern is a major industrial
operation - neither conducive to preservation or tourist acess.) So
that leaves the currently unused Boeing parking area to the south of
museum, the SMF has borrowed it in the past.

As to financial troubles that OM aludes to, he may be confusing (as
many do) the troubled Future Of Flight museum up at Paine Field in
Everett with the Seattle Museum of Flight. (The SMF was going to step
in and take over the Future Of Flight museum some years back, but the
deal fell through.)

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  #53  
Old January 9th 10, 12:20 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Alain Fournier[_2_]
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OM wrote:
...Greg, the fact remains that I was wronged in this case, and I'll be
damned if Charlie's going to get off scott free for it. As long as he
continues to swagger around here and throw his ego around, I'll be
there to ram it back down his throat. He's a pathetic lying *******,
and deserves the derision.


We don't care whether he deserves the derision or not. I feel that
I don't deserve seeing your incessant rants. You have been told
this numerous times be many people. I am very slow at putting
someone in my killfile, that is the reason why you aren't there
yet.


Alain Fournier
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Old January 9th 10, 12:51 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics
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"OM" wrote in message
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:05:20 -0600, "Jorge R. Frank"

103 - NASM Udvar-Hazy


...They do have the room.


Not really. Last time I was there, there's definitely room at one end of
the main hall, but that's all airplane stuff, not space stuff.

And right now the location of the Enterprise is pretty impressive. That and
the SR-71 are in a great spot.

BUT, they are adding on over time, so there could be room in the future.


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Old January 9th 10, 12:53 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.shuttle
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"OM" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:06:08 -0500, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:

OM, you just keep digging your reputation a deeper and deeper hole.
Really,
just stop. You have a problem with Charlie and everyone else at L2,
great.
I'm down with that. But don't go dragging it around all the place. The
only person you're hurting is yourself.


...Greg, the fact remains that I was wronged in this case, and I'll be
damned if Charlie's going to get off scott free for it. As long as he
continues to swagger around here and throw his ego around, I'll be
there to ram it back down his throat. He's a pathetic lying *******,
and deserves the derision.

OM

Fine, If you think he's committed a crime as alluded to in you prior post,
take it up with the authorities.

As for derision, the more you act like this, the more YOU get, whether you
want to or not. The only person you're making look bad is yourself. So
even if your goal were right, you're going about it the wrong way.




--
Greg Moore
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  #56  
Old January 9th 10, 04:07 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.shuttle
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"OM" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 19:53:08 -0500, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:


As for derision, the more you act like this, the more YOU get, whether you
want to or not. The only person you're making look bad is yourself. So
even if your goal were right, you're going about it the wrong way.


...Otay Greg, let's put up or shut up: if I'm going about it "the
wrong way", what, in *your* opinion, is the "right" way? The one that
would guarantee results? All I hear is "you're going about it the
wrong way" and "you're damaging your reputation". Well, fine. If
there's another way, then let's hear it. I'll wait.


Well let's see, you already deleted the one suggestion I made.

Secondly act like an adult. If Charlie is so terrible he'll hang himself.
Put yourself above the fray and you'll earn people's respect.

But that's probably too high-faluting for you.

Let's put it this way, have you seen a single person in this newsgroup cheer
you on? Suggest you're doing the right thing?

Now compare your style to say Henry's or dare I say Mary's. People who are
well respected for reasons in addition to their knowledge.

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  #57  
Old January 9th 10, 09:23 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics
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Jeff Findley wrote:
Vital Partnership, NASA and the USAF, Preserving a Legacy (on top of a
picture of the shuttle at the launch pad)
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/sha...100104-030.pdf

Check out the picture of what the inside of the building would look like
(page 9), which is prominently displaying Atlantis in the middle of the huge
Space Gallery. Impressive, no?


Yeah, that would be a good place to display it.
I wonder where they dug up a Titan I at?

Pat
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Old January 9th 10, 09:39 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics
Pat Flannery
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Jeff Findley wrote:
Can't seem to find pictures of the mating operation...


My Google-Fu is powerful:
http://home.att.net/~dblawren/images5/piggyback.jpg

Pat
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Old January 9th 10, 10:18 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,sci.space.shuttle
Pat Flannery
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Me wrote:
Once an asshole, always an asshole

...An asshole has class. You are just a jerk. More specifically, a
jerk*off*.


Not in the real world. Asshole is lower than a jerk.


You do both realize that this reads like some sort of gay flirting code
talk, don't you? :-D

Pat
  #60  
Old January 9th 10, 10:44 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics
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Pat Flannery wrote:

My Google-Fu is powerful:
http://home.att.net/~dblawren/images5/piggyback.jpg


Here's another shot showing preparations for the initial lifting
operation from the side, also showing the transport boat tail behind the
orbiter:
http://www.members.tripod.com/airfie...r_Columbia.jpg
Here, the transport boat tail is getting ready to be attached:
http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squ...uttleSmall.JPG
And here, the orbiter is getting attached to the 747:
http://static.squidoo.com/resize/squ...7WSMR02003.jpg
It looks like all they have to do is transport the lifting strongback to
the airfield where the Shuttle is at and get a couple of high capacity
cranes to attach to it.

Pat
 




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