Hot Rocks of Venus that are looking intelligent

Speaking of those intelligent looking hot rocks of Venus, as though
having become so unusually tarmac, bridge and complex community worthy
of such large structures and of all that rational infrastructure
stuff, of which would most likely need a good resource of energy,
especially if there's any of that ice cold beer to behold.

Energy In = Energy Out x Eff.

On Venus, by day we have the solar energy influx of 2630 w/m2. By day
and night we also have the 20.5 w/m2 of its planetology core energy
that's continually leaving its somewhat newish and thus toasty
surface. Together, on average that's at least a thermal dynamic worth
of 1325 watts/m2 to work with (perhaps worth 1350 w/m2 because a few
percent more than half of Venus and of its robust atmosphere is
getting illuminated at any one time). But then we also have the
locally built up pressure dynamics of extracting from the stored
energy of 4+ bar/km (from the first vertical km), and that's not to
mention upon whatever local geothermal gas vent of fast moving and
mostly hot S8(sulphur) plus receiving more of that terrific CO2 has to
offer.

Can anyone of sufficient physics and/or scientific expertise help
better explain the logic of pressure differentials, such as to
whatever a nearly 100 bar environment of mostly CO2 that's also
hosting a good amount of whatever toasty geothermal contributed S8
vapor has to offer, at an atmospheric differential of 4+ bar/km, that
which is also capable of including a vertical thermal differential
value of 10 K/km.

Can you or those you might know of further help to explain as to why
that kind of absolutely nifty pressure and thermal differential worth
of raw energy dynamics via good old physics-101 would not function off-
world (meaning for other than Earth)?

Without ever involving a geothermal gas vent, of which there are many
such gas vents on Venus, you'd think at the very least worth an extra
couple hundred K in thermal differential that's accessible right at
the surface, whereas just going by the 10 K/km of the first vertical
atmospheric thermal offset alone seems rather worth while of
extracting renewable energy from, not to mention the 4+ bar/km that's
easily obtained in almost any desired location and of nearly any given
volume that you'd care to utilize, as well as at the vertical km exit
velocity of perhaps as great as 16 m/s, even though 4 m/s should
seriously knock our kinetic energy socks off(sort of speak). Can
anyone offer those most likely answers, as to whatever the per cubic
meter worth of such a dense atmospheric vapor as pressure and thermal
differential has to deliver, in the way of what most any 5th grader
taking advantage of such easily accessible raw energy might expect to
get.

- Brad Guth

On Dec 29, 4:30 am, BradGuth wrote:
Speaking of those intelligent looking hot rocks of Venus, as though
having become so unusually tarmac, bridge and complex community worthy
of such large structures and of all that rational infrastructure
stuff, of which would most likely need a good resource of energy,
especially if there's any of that ice cold beer to behold.

Energy In = Energy Out x Eff.

On Venus, by day we have the solar energy influx of 2630 w/m2. By day
and night we also have the 20.5 w/m2 of its planetology core energy
that's continually leaving its somewhat newish and thus toasty
surface. Together, on average that's at least a thermal dynamic worth
of 1325 watts/m2 to work with (perhaps worth 1350 w/m2 because a few
percent more than half of Venus and of its robust atmosphere is
getting illuminated at any one time). But then we also have the
locally built up pressure dynamics of extracting from the stored
energy of 4+ bar/km (from the first vertical km), and that's not to
mention upon whatever local geothermal gas vent of fast moving and
mostly hot S8(sulphur) plus receiving more of that terrific CO2 has to
offer.

Can anyone of sufficient physics and/or scientific expertise help
better explain the logic of pressure differentials, such as to
whatever a nearly 100 bar environment of mostly CO2 that's also
hosting a good amount of whatever toasty geothermal contributed S8
vapor has to offer, at an atmospheric differential of 4+ bar/km, that
which is also capable of including a vertical thermal differential
value of 10 K/km.

Can you or those you might know of further help to explain as to why
that kind of absolutely nifty pressure and thermal differential worth
of raw energy dynamics via good old physics-101 would not function off-
world (meaning for other than Earth)?

Without ever involving a geothermal gas vent, of which there are many
such gas vents on Venus, you'd think at the very least worth an extra
couple hundred K in thermal differential that's accessible right at
the surface, whereas just going by the 10 K/km of the first vertical
atmospheric thermal offset alone seems rather worth while of
extracting renewable energy from, not to mention the 4+ bar/km that's
easily obtained in almost any desired location and of nearly any given
volume that you'd care to utilize, as well as at the vertical km exit
velocity of perhaps as great as 16 m/s, even though 4 m/s should
seriously knock our kinetic energy socks off(sort of speak). Can
anyone offer those most likely answers, as to whatever the per cubic
meter worth of such a dense atmospheric vapor as pressure and thermal
differential has to deliver, in the way of what most any 5th grader
taking advantage of such easily accessible raw energy might expect to
get.

- Brad Guth

I see that MI5 is back in town, doing his/her usual brown-nosed clown
thing of roboposting into just about every group in sight.

- Brad Guth

Why is our resident spook/mole "MI5 Persecution" getting so gosh darn
upset about the truth?

- Brad Guth


On Dec 29 2007, 4:30 am, BradGuth wrote:
Speaking of those intelligent looking hot rocks of Venus, as though
having become so unusually tarmac, bridge and complex community worthy
of such large structures and of all that rational infrastructure
stuff, of which would most likely need a good resource of energy,
especially if there's any of that ice cold beer to behold.

Energy In = Energy Out x Eff.

On Venus, by day we have the solar energy influx of 2630 w/m2. By day
and night we also have the 20.5 w/m2 of its planetology core energy
that's continually leaving its somewhat newish and thus toasty
surface. Together, on average that's at least a thermal dynamic worth
of 1325 watts/m2 to work with (perhaps worth 1350 w/m2 because a few
percent more than half of Venus and of its robust atmosphere is
getting illuminated at any one time). But then we also have the
locally built up pressure dynamics of extracting from the stored
energy of 4+ bar/km (from the first vertical km), and that's not to
mention upon whatever local geothermal gas vent of fast moving and
mostly hot S8(sulphur) plus receiving more of that terrific CO2 has to
offer.

Can anyone of sufficient physics and/or scientific expertise help
better explain the logic of pressure differentials, such as to
whatever a nearly 100 bar environment of mostly CO2 that's also
hosting a good amount of whatever toasty geothermal contributed S8
vapor has to offer, at an atmospheric differential of 4+ bar/km, that
which is also capable of including a vertical thermal differential
value of 10 K/km.

Can you or those you might know of further help to explain as to why
that kind of absolutely nifty pressure and thermal differential worth
of raw energy dynamics via good old physics-101 would not function off-
world (meaning for other than Earth)?

Without ever involving a geothermal gas vent, of which there are many
such gas vents on Venus, you'd think at the very least worth an extra
couple hundred K in thermal differential that's accessible right at
the surface, whereas just going by the 10 K/km of the first vertical
atmospheric thermal offset alone seems rather worth while of
extracting renewable energy from, not to mention the 4+ bar/km that's
easily obtained in almost any desired location and of nearly any given
volume that you'd care to utilize, as well as at the vertical km exit
velocity of perhaps as great as 16 m/s, even though 4 m/s should
seriously knock our kinetic energy socks off(sort of speak). Can
anyone offer those most likely answers, as to whatever the per cubic
meter worth of such a dense atmospheric vapor as pressure and thermal
differential has to deliver, in the way of what most any 5th grader
taking advantage of such easily accessible raw energy might expect to
get.

- Brad Guth

On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:54:38AM +0000, Rand Simberg wrote:
On 6 Dec 2007 00:39:01 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Steve
made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 02:43:00PM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 5, 2:32 pm, "Steve wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:31:57AM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet,
[snip]
I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1.

Sorry, Brad. You lose no matter what the score may appear to be.

Regards,

Steve

Wow, are you knocking our socks off today, with such all-knowing
physics and science expertise. Can't you even try to hold something
back?
- Brad Guth

Won't you get lost and darken my doorknob no longer?

No, he won't. Killfile him, or we'll killfile you, since you seem to
add no value to the group(s) otherwise.

Sorry.


Regards,

Steve

--
I submit you should have invested in real-estate as opposed to picturesque
yet impractical castles in the sky.

On Jan 1, 5:01 pm, "Steve wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:54:38AM +0000, Rand Simberg wrote:
On 6 Dec 2007 00:39:01 GMT, in a place far, far away, "Steve
made the phosphor on my monitor glow
in such a way as to indicate that:

On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 02:43:00PM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
On Dec 5, 2:32 pm, "Steve wrote:
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 10:31:57AM -0800, BradGuth wrote:
Venus is simply an Earth like toasty poptart of a newish planet,
[snip]
I guess it's still going Usenet 0, Guth 1.

Sorry, Brad. You lose no matter what the score may appear to be.

Regards,

Steve

Wow, are you knocking our socks off today, with such all-knowing
physics and science expertise. Can't you even try to hold something
back?
- Brad Guth

Won't you get lost and darken my doorknob no longer?

No, he won't. Killfile him, or we'll killfile you, since you seem to
add no value to the group(s) otherwise.

Sorry.

Regards,

Steve

Intimidated by the mainstream status quo?

- Brad Guth

Why doesn't Venus have more than its fair share of local/renewable
energy?

It seems only entirely logical that the local energy of Venus is
nearly unlimited, and as such what can't be accomplished (with or w/o
The Ove Glove)?

- Brad Guth

On Jan 1, 5:48 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Why doesn't Venus have more than its fair share of local/renewable
energy?

It seems entirely logical that the local energy worth of Venus is
nearly unlimited, and as such what can't be accomplished (with or w/o
The Ove Glove)?

- Brad Guth

OOPS! there's that Ove Glove thing again.

Obviously any honest physics talk is still officially taboo/
nondisclosure rated, just like radar images of 36 confirming looks.per
pixel and of nearly a 3D format don't count.

- Brad Guth

On Dec 17 2007, 7:57 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Oct 22, 6:09 am, BradGuth wrote:







Whenever sharing about our moon or Venus, it's exactly as though we're
not being told the whole truth and nothing but the truth about much of
anything these days. Talk about revising history, science and a whole
lot more, whereas those hot rocks of Venus that so happen to look as
though having been arranged so gosh darn unusually intelligent, are
most likely still there to behold, and we've had the technology for
having taken a much closer look-see for better than a good decade.

This observationology of image interpretation isn't the least bit
hocus-pocus phony, nor is it having any ulterior motives or hidden
agenda like our mutually perpetrated cold-war(s), or even hot-war(s)
over fossil and yellowcake energy as of lately, and there's nothing
but an all around win-win for science and humanity if in fact any of
those hot rocks of Venus are actually of those modified and/or having
been put to good use by intelligent other life. At least there's
nothing about Venus that's technically all that insurmountable, that
is unless you're not quite half as smart as a hot rock.

The official NASA/Magellan image of GIF format, as being that of a 36
look per pixel composite as having been given essentially the benefit
of those 36 confirming radar looks per each pixel, is by itself worthy
of our consideration for all kinds of honest reasons besides those
patterns of whatever's interpreting as so AI /(intelligent/
artificial), as opposed to all of the perfectly natural appearing
items that are of equally outstanding planetology, such as the
impressive FLUID ARCH.

The big question of the day is; Does anyone within Google/NOVA's
usenetland of such all-knowing wizards care to discuss/review the long
and growing list of what-ifs? (after all, for all we know those hot-
foot Venusians could even be of a Zion/semitic faith)

For a topic starter, we are obviously not talking about any cool and
wet Earth like environment, or even that of our weird, naked and
somewhat salty moon, nor of any such dead and nearly frozen to the
core likes of Mars or of whatever's so much further away. At times
Venus is actually extremely nearby (a little over 100X the distance of
our moon), and it's absolutely chuck full of its very own geothermal
cache of raw energy that's sharing a surface of 20.5 w/m2 (roughly 256
fold greater than Earth), that which only a born-again dork of a
naysayer like most of our usenet anti-think-tank rusemasters couldn't
possibly appreciate.

Why exclude the unknown simply because it's unknown? In other words,
most likely your whole intellectual mindset worth of whatever's
supposedly wiser and thus greater than most, that's simply faiyjh-
based obligated on behalf of what has to go out of its infomercial
spewing way in order to exclude upon any such off-world intelligent
other life, regardless of whatever's the applied technology, or even
to banish anything that's of off-world intelligent potential
regardless of whatever's the alternative planetology and of its local
evolution, of which you and I know absolutely nothing about is what
seems a bit counter-productive.

If at all possible, please do further explain as to those very
intelligent and/or rational community looking items, as if somehow
those were being purely natural, by way of offering us some other
image examples, as to sharing in where such a rational complex
community looking group of planetology considerations are otherwise to
be found within common/terrestrial planetology w/o AI benefit of
whatever intelligent life accomplished, such as right here on Earth
should offer. For one basic observationology argument example; How
many complex looking tarmacs are there on Earth that had absolutely
nothing whatsoever of AI to do with their having been created or
otherwise crafted/modified for their rational use by intelligent life?

Thanks once again to our once upon a time "tomcat", for once having
posted a link to this updated page of Venus images.http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/th...humbnails.html

Some of the most interesting AI information can be found within image
No.17 from the top left, as being the 225 m/pixel composite frame of
such radar obtained pixels that so happens to include the robust,
rather sizable and somewhat complex community of 'GUTH Venus', of
which you should apply your own PhotoShop/resampling enlargement of at
least 3X, along with whatever unsharp mask filter plus other image
cleaning or treatment options you'd care to apply. Remember that a
purely negative or naysay mindset of a true rusemaster simply can't
accomplish such PhotoShop enlargements without making the image look
worse off than it really is.
"Lava channels, Lo Shen Valles, Venus from Magellan Cycle 1"http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/imgcat/html/object_page/mgn_c115s095_1.htm...

If you still can not find this community of interesting pixels, then
you are not nearly as good at observationology as you think you are.
- Brad Guth -

If you have a working eye and so much as half a brain (unless it's
snookered and dumbfounded past the point of no return), you can see
for yourself.

OOPS! apparently seeing for yourself means having an actual brain
that's a little different than what's brown and leaking from between
your butt-cheeks.

- Brad Guth

Folks of Usenet are for the most part nothing but liars and deniers,
continually doing their pretend atheists brown-nosed thing regardless
of the consequences.

MI5/CIA and of all the puppeteered agencies they master over are at
the black heart of it all, as though their global dominating Hitler
warlord puppet never actually died.

The planet Venus is very much alive and kicking in more than just a
newish geothermal kind of way. Even the ESA Venus Express mission has
been touting upon the extreme thermal differentials, especially of
those existing between the extremes of the Venusian daytime/nighttime
atmospheric environments, of which the mostly CO2 atmosphere sustains
those 25+ km thick and robust worth of such terrific acidic clouds of
S8 and good old h2o.

The toasty geothermal forced surface environment in many elevated
locations is not outside of what's technically doable for even the
pathetic likes of us dumbfounded humans, as long as doing such in the
buff is not what you had in mind.

The ongoing topic/author stalking, bashings and/or banishment is
simply the kind of proof positive of what Venus has to offer, as being
so extremely invaluable and otherwise much like our nearby moon and of
its absolutely nifty L1 zone, that's actually worth far more than all
the tea in China(sort of speak).

- Brad Guth

On Jan 5, 11:14 am, BradGuth wrote:
Folks of Usenet are for the most part nothing but liars and deniers,
continually doing their pretend atheists brown-nosed thing regardless
of the consequences.

MI5/CIA and of all the puppeteered agencies they master over are at
the black heart of it all, as though their global dominating Hitler
warlord puppet never actually died.

The planet Venus is very much alive and kicking in more than just a
newish geothermal kind of way. Even the ESA Venus Express mission has
been touting upon the extreme thermal differentials, especially of
those existing between the extremes of the Venusian daytime/nighttime
atmospheric environments, of which the mostly CO2 atmosphere sustains
those 25+ km thick and robust worth of such terrific acidic clouds of
S8 and good old h2o.

The toasty geothermal forced surface environment in many elevated
locations is not outside of what's technically doable for even the
pathetic likes of us dumbfounded humans, as long as doing such in the
buff is not what you had in mind.

The ongoing topic/author stalking, bashings and/or banishment is
simply the kind of proof positive of what Venus has to offer, as being
so extremely invaluable and otherwise much like our nearby moon and of
its absolutely nifty L1 zone, that's actually worth far more than all
the tea in China(sort of speak).

- Brad Guth

What the hell gives?
This nifty topic needs a few more of those Google/NOVA gold stars. If
you have nothing much to constructively contribute, at least vote on
my behalf by simply giving this one all the gold stars you can
manage. The more of them stars the better, especially good if they
were Jewish stars, since I have nothing bad to say or rant about the
vast majority of faith-based souls that would never so much as hurt a
Muslim fly.
- Brad Guth