OT- Scary new body armor

Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:
http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D


Pat

On May 27, 2:29 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D

Pat

Here's a video of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPS2l5fQ55A

On May 27, 6:30?am, Hyper wrote:
On May 27, 2:29 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:

Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D

Pat

Here's a video of it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPS2l5fQ55A

Here's a much more interesting ad for bodyarmor:
http://blogidaho.biz/bodyarmor.jpg

Rob

In message . com, Rob
Arndt writes
On May 27, 6:30?am, Hyper wrote:
On May 27, 2:29 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:

Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just
run:http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D

Pat

Here's a video of it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPS2l5fQ55A

Here's a much more interesting ad for bodyarmor:
http://blogidaho.biz/bodyarmor.jpg

Rob


Could be the cause of yet another cover-up by the Pentagon.
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On Sun, 27 May 2007 06:29:59 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:
http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D


Pat


ROFL!!!! Better come with air conditioning.

Scott Ferrin wrote:

ROFL!!!! Better come with air conditioning.

Apparently the helmet is air conditioned or at least ventilated, by a
solar-powered fan; but that thing looks mighty warm to wear.
Still, if I was in the vicinity of an exploding IED, that's exactly what
I'd want to be wearing.

Pat

Scott Ferrin wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2007 06:29:59 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:
http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D


Pat


ROFL!!!! Better come with air conditioning.

It does.

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Pat Flannery wrote:
Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:
http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D


Pat

Interesting... but you'd hope that an inventor would think twice before
calling his body armor "the Trojan" ("available in two sizes... Extra
Large and Texan!")

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Pat Flannery wrote in
:

Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:
http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D

And speaking of armo(u)r remember all the shrieking and moaning
about the evil *******s at the Pentagon refusing to buy Dragon
Skin vests.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18790506/

Turns out there was a reason for this refusal.

Note that the Army was quite detailed as to the testing that
was performed.

IBM

On Sun, 27 May 2007 22:46:53 -0500, Ian MacLure wrote:

Pat Flannery wrote in
:

Somebody started coming at me in this, and I'd just run:
http://tinyurl.com/3dfo83
You look at that, and you might think it's some sort of killer robot or
one of the Starship Troopers coming at you. :-D

And speaking of armo(u)r remember all the shrieking and moaning
about the evil *******s at the Pentagon refusing to buy Dragon
Skin vests.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18790506/

Turns out there was a reason for this refusal.

Yes, but we still don't know what that reason was.


Note that the Army was quite detailed as to the testing that
was performed.

No, not really. "Brown described "catastrophic failures" by the Dragon
Skin armor, and said that in 13 of 48 shots, lethal armor-piercing rounds
either shattered the discs that make up the armor, or completely
penetrated the vest"

One really critical detail would be, how many of those thirteen failures
are of the "shattered disk" sort, and how many the "completely penetrated"
type? That's a particularly important detail if you're going to follow
it up with,

"'Zero failures is the correct answer,' he said. 'One failure is sudden
death and you lose the game.'"

Because if one failure means that a disk is shattered but contained by
the ballistic cloth carrier, then no, one failure is *not* sudden death.
It takes two failures in the same place to cause sudden death.


And I'm pretty sure the "47.5 pounds vs 28 pounds" weight comparison is
an apples/oranges thing, with a maximum-coverage version of the Dragon
Skin being compared to a standard Interceptor suite with just the 10x12"
chest and back plates. But it's hard to say without more information
than the report gives.


So the Army is not being particularly detailed, and not being particularly
honest, in describing these tests to the press and to Congress. That
makes me a bit suspicious as to how honest they are being in performing
the tests in the first place. Not that this would be anything new -
remember the flawless performance of U.S. Navy torpedoes in 1941-1943,
and the stern discipline required to prevent ignorant sailors in the
field from performing hare-brained improvisational schemes of their
own design?

If it matters, I'd recommend finding as much test data as you can on
the Dragon Skin armor. Then burn without reading, the results of every
single test performed by the United States Army, and every single test
performed by the manufacturer of the armor. What's left, will probably
give you a fair idea of the system's performance.


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