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Old October 10th 04, 11:40 AM
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S.H. Atoms take up lots of space. If the compression force of gravity
can push electrons back into the nucleus to form neutron stars,and a BH
gravity is 3 times that of a neutron star you can see why the Earth
would be the size of a pea. Gravity takes away the space,but the
weight(mass) of the object stays the same. Bert

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Old October 10th 04, 11:46 AM
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Luigi Gravity created the BB,and has evolved everything in the
universe then,now,and tomorrow. That includes life. Bert

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Old October 10th 04, 01:08 PM
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Ralph Hertle wrote:
From what you say you did no research on that. No rational and factual
research would result in thew conclusion that, "I (you) don't think its
Kepler". There is no evidence for that.

In saying, 'I don't think', I confess that it indeed could have been
Kepler but my quick look into geometers didn't mention him at all.

And, you say, "more like"...? That is the puniest attempt at lying about
the facts of science that I have heard yet. "More like"? Is that some
sort of Platonic approximation that "Archimedes or Euclid" created the
theory concerning the stellated geometric solids? Really, now....is it
the one, or is it the other....just to pin down your claim with a little
anti-Platonic precision of thought.


I said, 'More Like', because Kepler is most commonly placed with Galileo
and Newton, astronomers and physicists, not geometers. In fact the site
that I checked out mentioned 30 different geometers and not one of those
was Kepler.


If you knew the facts you would have said, for example, that the theory
of the primary closest packing solids, and the discussions of their
properties and proofs, was first set forth by Pythagoras.


So I will state the facts as I have learned them. First off, my vague
knowledge was the result of something I learned as a child. A concept I
remember learning but do not recall the geometer that made comment about
it. Secondly, again, I went back to the web page that I got my recent
knowledge from and found there to be a controversy about who 'discovered
the first five facts of elemental geometry.' Was it Thales of Miletus
or Pythagoras of Samos? Since there is a controversy as to who is
credited with this discovery it would be unwise of me to state that
Pythagoras was the originator. The final fact is that any one of those
geometers could have said what I remember hearing regardless of who the
originator was.

Cited link: http://www.geometryalgorithms.com/history.htm

I do appreciate the challenge to what I know. Only a fool makes a
mistake without trying to understand where the mistake was made and
adjust so that the mistake is not made again.
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Old October 10th 04, 01:15 PM
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SunDancingGuy wrote:
What evidence is there for the existence of a "neutron star"? The
concept is just another patch applied to current cosmology because it
cannot come up with an explanation for millisecond pulsars.
Rather than re-examine the current theory when it can't explain how a
star sized object could possible rotate so fast, and look for a better
explanation, such as electrical oscillation, we conjure up an
imaginary substance, such as dark matter", "dark energy", "neutorn
star".
Maybe it's made of condensed milk.


Whether you're right or wrong, you do make an excellent point that I
would like to have an answer to. I never put pulsars together with dark
energy/matter, but I agree that the current explainations are hard to
swallow. I'd be more inclined to put my betting dollar on cold fusion
before dark matter/energy.
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Old October 10th 04, 02:05 PM
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Old October 10th 04, 07:25 PM
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Absolutely Dreadful!
http://www.despair.com/indem.html

Dreadful, indeed, my fave site!

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Old October 10th 04, 07:25 PM
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Absolutely Dreadful!

Have you a penny?

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Old October 10th 04, 07:36 PM
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"I don't know half of you
half as well as I should like;
and I like less than half of you
half as well as you deserve."

Great quite, who's?


Maybe you refer to something else with "quantum school of thought"

Met any Gravitons recently?
Or are you merely aggrivated?
Or agrieved? Here, wipe your tears
On my sleeve. Or would you care
For a packet of Black Lifesavers,
Infinite circle, a hole in the center?
Clearly, that hole, the missing link.
Wouldn't you think?
All this spilled ink,
Spilling more, only now a phosphorescent
Screen reveals to my truth. Not first read,
No, certainly not. It's the second one
That counts. Call that a twice-told tale,
Or just an unravelld, descrambled, pentimentio
Silly word game. Or perhaps my heart's rubric ~
An old trick played well,
Less often told, rarely held by both players,
As the goal requires. My mind tires
Not. A closer walk with thee, yes,
That's what I want, why I live.
So, my requirements met, now, give
Me, hear? Got that?


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Old October 10th 04, 08:50 PM
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" ha scritto nel messaggio
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Luigi Gravity created the BB,and has evolved everything in the
universe then,now,and tomorrow. That includes life. Bert


If BB is created from quantum fluctuation there isn't any kind of gravity at
this level.
The only way to say that gravity created the BB is thinking of black holes
like nursery of infinite universes...
But in this way we can't avoid the question of the first BB creating the
first universe, mother (via black holes) of infinite ones.

Luigi Caselli


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Old October 10th 04, 09:06 PM
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The only way to say that gravity created the BB is thinking of black holes
like nursery of infinite universes...
But in this way we can't avoid the question of the first BB creating the
first universe, mother (via black holes) of infinite ones.

Interesting!
A nursery & Mum.
A garden, too.
And a baby.

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