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Old January 17th 04, 11:06 PM
Russell Wallace
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:33:08 -0500, Michael McCulloch
wrote:

The Hubble has served it's purpose and has had a good life.


It's far from the end of its useful life yet.

The future of telescopes is ground-based interferometry and adaptive
optics. Such observations have already exceeded the capability of the
Hubble in some instances and are much less expensive to deploy and
maintain.


As other people have noted, ground based observatories can't fully
substitute for Hubble.

How many state-of-the-art ground observatories can be built for the
cost of one Hubble servicing mission?


Well, if they cancelled all manned spaceflight for cost reasons, that
would at least have a consistent logic to it. What makes this perverse
lunacy is that they're still spending the money anyway, on busywork
trips to that useless orbital camping trailer. It doesn't even make
sense from a political standpoint; if they can't do routine
maintenance work in low orbit, there's not much chance of people
believing the talk about NASA sending people to Mars.

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Old January 18th 04, 01:15 AM
starman
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Russell Wallace wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:33:08 -0500, Michael McCulloch
wrote:

The Hubble has served it's purpose and has had a good life.


It's far from the end of its useful life yet.

The future of telescopes is ground-based interferometry and adaptive
optics. Such observations have already exceeded the capability of the
Hubble in some instances and are much less expensive to deploy and
maintain.


As other people have noted, ground based observatories can't fully
substitute for Hubble.

How many state-of-the-art ground observatories can be built for the
cost of one Hubble servicing mission?


Well, if they cancelled all manned spaceflight for cost reasons, that
would at least have a consistent logic to it. What makes this perverse
lunacy is that they're still spending the money anyway, on busywork
trips to that useless orbital camping trailer. It doesn't even make
sense from a political standpoint; if they can't do routine
maintenance work in low orbit, there's not much chance of people
believing the talk about NASA sending people to Mars.


I favor boosting it to a higher/stable orbit and leaving it there in
cold storage until it can be recovered more economically. Something as
important to the history of science should be available for our
ancestors to see and appreciate.


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Old January 18th 04, 01:15 AM
starman
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Russell Wallace wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:33:08 -0500, Michael McCulloch
wrote:

The Hubble has served it's purpose and has had a good life.


It's far from the end of its useful life yet.

The future of telescopes is ground-based interferometry and adaptive
optics. Such observations have already exceeded the capability of the
Hubble in some instances and are much less expensive to deploy and
maintain.


As other people have noted, ground based observatories can't fully
substitute for Hubble.

How many state-of-the-art ground observatories can be built for the
cost of one Hubble servicing mission?


Well, if they cancelled all manned spaceflight for cost reasons, that
would at least have a consistent logic to it. What makes this perverse
lunacy is that they're still spending the money anyway, on busywork
trips to that useless orbital camping trailer. It doesn't even make
sense from a political standpoint; if they can't do routine
maintenance work in low orbit, there's not much chance of people
believing the talk about NASA sending people to Mars.


I favor boosting it to a higher/stable orbit and leaving it there in
cold storage until it can be recovered more economically. Something as
important to the history of science should be available for our
ancestors to see and appreciate.


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Old January 18th 04, 01:15 AM
starman
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Russell Wallace wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:33:08 -0500, Michael McCulloch
wrote:

The Hubble has served it's purpose and has had a good life.


It's far from the end of its useful life yet.

The future of telescopes is ground-based interferometry and adaptive
optics. Such observations have already exceeded the capability of the
Hubble in some instances and are much less expensive to deploy and
maintain.


As other people have noted, ground based observatories can't fully
substitute for Hubble.

How many state-of-the-art ground observatories can be built for the
cost of one Hubble servicing mission?


Well, if they cancelled all manned spaceflight for cost reasons, that
would at least have a consistent logic to it. What makes this perverse
lunacy is that they're still spending the money anyway, on busywork
trips to that useless orbital camping trailer. It doesn't even make
sense from a political standpoint; if they can't do routine
maintenance work in low orbit, there's not much chance of people
believing the talk about NASA sending people to Mars.


I favor boosting it to a higher/stable orbit and leaving it there in
cold storage until it can be recovered more economically. Something as
important to the history of science should be available for our
ancestors to see and appreciate.


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Old January 18th 04, 01:15 AM
starman
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Russell Wallace wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 00:33:08 -0500, Michael McCulloch
wrote:

The Hubble has served it's purpose and has had a good life.


It's far from the end of its useful life yet.

The future of telescopes is ground-based interferometry and adaptive
optics. Such observations have already exceeded the capability of the
Hubble in some instances and are much less expensive to deploy and
maintain.


As other people have noted, ground based observatories can't fully
substitute for Hubble.

How many state-of-the-art ground observatories can be built for the
cost of one Hubble servicing mission?


Well, if they cancelled all manned spaceflight for cost reasons, that
would at least have a consistent logic to it. What makes this perverse
lunacy is that they're still spending the money anyway, on busywork
trips to that useless orbital camping trailer. It doesn't even make
sense from a political standpoint; if they can't do routine
maintenance work in low orbit, there's not much chance of people
believing the talk about NASA sending people to Mars.


I favor boosting it to a higher/stable orbit and leaving it there in
cold storage until it can be recovered more economically. Something as
important to the history of science should be available for our
ancestors to see and appreciate.


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Old January 18th 04, 01:37 AM
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yeah, I always take crazy people with power seriously...
Orion

"Tony Turner" wrote in message
...

"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...
The old adage is that if something sounds to good to be true it
probably is...


snip


I'm asking you to join me,the American members of sci.astro.amateur,
to write to the President


,snip

All the letters in the world, all the indignant, or emotional, or reasoned
newsgroup postings can't hide the fact that Bush's proposals are bull****.
Two eyes and an abacus can tell us that.
Does ANYone take that man seriously?




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Old January 18th 04, 01:37 AM
Orion
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Default To Good To Be True....Let's save the Hubble

yeah, I always take crazy people with power seriously...
Orion

"Tony Turner" wrote in message
...

"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...
The old adage is that if something sounds to good to be true it
probably is...


snip


I'm asking you to join me,the American members of sci.astro.amateur,
to write to the President


,snip

All the letters in the world, all the indignant, or emotional, or reasoned
newsgroup postings can't hide the fact that Bush's proposals are bull****.
Two eyes and an abacus can tell us that.
Does ANYone take that man seriously?




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Old January 18th 04, 01:37 AM
Orion
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Default To Good To Be True....Let's save the Hubble

yeah, I always take crazy people with power seriously...
Orion

"Tony Turner" wrote in message
...

"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...
The old adage is that if something sounds to good to be true it
probably is...


snip


I'm asking you to join me,the American members of sci.astro.amateur,
to write to the President


,snip

All the letters in the world, all the indignant, or emotional, or reasoned
newsgroup postings can't hide the fact that Bush's proposals are bull****.
Two eyes and an abacus can tell us that.
Does ANYone take that man seriously?




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Old January 18th 04, 01:37 AM
Orion
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Default To Good To Be True....Let's save the Hubble

yeah, I always take crazy people with power seriously...
Orion

"Tony Turner" wrote in message
...

"P. Edward Murray" wrote in message
om...
The old adage is that if something sounds to good to be true it
probably is...


snip


I'm asking you to join me,the American members of sci.astro.amateur,
to write to the President


,snip

All the letters in the world, all the indignant, or emotional, or reasoned
newsgroup postings can't hide the fact that Bush's proposals are bull****.
Two eyes and an abacus can tell us that.
Does ANYone take that man seriously?




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Old January 18th 04, 08:18 AM
Richard F.L.R. Snashall
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starman wrote:

Russell Wallace wrote:







I favor boosting it to a higher/stable orbit and leaving it there in
cold storage until it can be recovered more economically. Something as
important to the history of science should be available for our
ancestors to see and appreciate.



I doubt our ancestors could appreciate it much, in their condition!




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