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Old December 10th 15, 11:48 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Uncarollo2:
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always
been.

The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread
winding its way through our political and cultural life,
nurtured by the false notion that democracy means
that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

- Isaac Asimov


Chris.B:
The Danes have the same thing:

It's called Janteloven or Jante's Law.

From: http://blogs.denmark.dk/sharmi/2010/...danish-secret/

There are ten different rules in the law as defined by Sandemose, but they
are all variations on a single theme and are usually referred to as a
homogeneous unit: Don't think you're anyone special or that you're better
than us.

The ten rules a

Don't think that you are special.

Don't think that you are of the same standing as us.

Don't think that you are smarter than us.

Don't fancy yourself as being better than us.

Don't think that you know more than us.

Don't think that you are more important than us.

Don't think that you are good at anything.

Don't laugh at us.

Don't think that any one of us cares about you.

Don't think that you can teach us anything.


Well, those rules are likely to seem quite obvious to rational people.
But they won't fly in much of the USA or in other countries where
people have a false notion of "exceptionalism." Please see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism.

From where I stand, the two that many Americans fail to get more than
any others a

* Don't fancy yourself as being better than us.
* Don't think that you are more important than us.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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  #42  
Old December 11th 15, 07:24 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, 11 December 2015 00:48:40 UTC+1, Davoud wrote:

Well, those rules are likely to seem quite obvious to rational people.
But they won't fly in much of the USA or in other countries where
people have a false notion of "exceptionalism." Please see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism.


The Danes also share the American passion for flag waving. But, the Danes have a much better flag. ;o) Simple, elegant, as bloody as their history and straight to the point. Absolutely no frippery! Though both may still be made in the same sweatshops. [The flags! Not the people. But you never know.]

How do flag-burning protesters get their hands on "their sworn enemy's" flags without being slaughtered by their own? Is there an officially authorized online dealer in US and Danish flags in the Middle East? Are these flags approved for burning without releasing nasty toxins? Wouldn't it be awful if the US or Denmark were reported to the UN for poisoning the locals after a nice bout of flag burning? Whatever next? ;o))
  #43  
Old December 11th 15, 04:53 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Davoud:
Well, those rules are likely to seem quite obvious to rational people.
But they won't fly in much of the USA or in other countries where
people have a false notion of "exceptionalism." Please see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism.


Chris.B:
The Danes also share the American passion for flag waving. But, the Danes
have a much better flag. ;o) Simple, elegant, as bloody as their history and
straight to the point. Absolutely no frippery! Though both may still be made
in the same sweatshops. [The flags! Not the people. But you never know.]


Tribalism, jingoism, whatever you call it, it is mankind's greatest
curse. If it's in our genes, as many believe‹a useless relic of the era
when our primate ancestors had to fight off neighboring clans or other
species for survival‹then it is probably incurable. Ditto the scourge
or religious belief. We may be hard-wired for religion from the origins
of thinking primates when the only explanation for natural phenomena
was magic.

How do flag-burning protesters get their hands on "their sworn enemy's" flags
without being slaughtered by their own? Is there an officially authorized
online dealer in US and Danish flags in the Middle East? Are these flags
approved for burning without releasing nasty toxins? Wouldn't it be awful if
the US or Denmark were reported to the UN for poisoning the locals after a
nice bout of flag burning? Whatever next? ;o))


Is it legal to burn the Danish flag? Burning the U.S. flag in protest
is protected speech under the First Amendment to the Constitution in
the U.S.A. Of course, the First Amendment has many enemies among
knuckle-draggers, and they would like to either repeal it or gut it
with other amendments.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
  #44  
Old December 11th 15, 07:42 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 10:53:58 AM UTC-6, Davoud wrote:
Davoud:
Well, those rules are likely to seem quite obvious to rational people..
But they won't fly in much of the USA or in other countries where
people have a false notion of "exceptionalism." Please see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism.


Chris.B:
The Danes also share the American passion for flag waving. But, the Danes
have a much better flag. ;o) Simple, elegant, as bloody as their history and
straight to the point. Absolutely no frippery! Though both may still be made
in the same sweatshops. [The flags! Not the people. But you never know.]


Tribalism, jingoism, whatever you call it, it is mankind's greatest
curse. If it's in our genes, as many believečź» useless relic of the era
when our primate ancestors had to fight off neighboring clans or other
species for survival逆hen it is probably incurable. Ditto the scourge
or religious belief. We may be hard-wired for religion from the origins
of thinking primates when the only explanation for natural phenomena
was magic.

How do flag-burning protesters get their hands on "their sworn enemy's" flags
without being slaughtered by their own? Is there an officially authorized
online dealer in US and Danish flags in the Middle East? Are these flags
approved for burning without releasing nasty toxins? Wouldn't it be awful if
the US or Denmark were reported to the UN for poisoning the locals after a
nice bout of flag burning? Whatever next? ;o))


Is it legal to burn the Danish flag? Burning the U.S. flag in protest
is protected speech under the First Amendment to the Constitution in
the U.S.A. Of course, the First Amendment has many enemies among
knuckle-draggers, and they would like to either repeal it or gut it
with other amendments.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm


Trump appeals to knuckle draggers. See Horsey's latest cartoon:

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topof...209-story.html

They're calling Trump a Fascist, which in Snell's upside down world means he is a socialist. Sumpin' doesn't jive .. mmmm... what could it be I wonder ....
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Old December 11th 15, 10:37 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 2:42:36 PM UTC-5, Uncarollo2 wrote:
On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 10:53:58 AM UTC-6, Davoud wrote:
Davoud:
Well, those rules are likely to seem quite obvious to rational people.
But they won't fly in much of the USA or in other countries where
people have a false notion of "exceptionalism." Please see
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism.


Chris.B:
The Danes also share the American passion for flag waving. But, the Danes
have a much better flag. ;o) Simple, elegant, as bloody as their history and
straight to the point. Absolutely no frippery! Though both may still be made
in the same sweatshops. [The flags! Not the people. But you never know.]


Tribalism, jingoism, whatever you call it, it is mankind's greatest
curse. If it's in our genes, as many believečź» useless relic of the era
when our primate ancestors had to fight off neighboring clans or other
species for survival逆hen it is probably incurable. Ditto the scourge
or religious belief. We may be hard-wired for religion from the origins
of thinking primates when the only explanation for natural phenomena
was magic.

How do flag-burning protesters get their hands on "their sworn enemy's" flags
without being slaughtered by their own? Is there an officially authorized
online dealer in US and Danish flags in the Middle East? Are these flags
approved for burning without releasing nasty toxins? Wouldn't it be awful if
the US or Denmark were reported to the UN for poisoning the locals after a
nice bout of flag burning? Whatever next? ;o))


Is it legal to burn the Danish flag? Burning the U.S. flag in protest
is protected speech under the First Amendment to the Constitution in
the U.S.A. Of course, the First Amendment has many enemies among
knuckle-draggers, and they would like to either repeal it or gut it
with other amendments.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm


Trump appeals to knuckle draggers. See Horsey's latest cartoon:

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topof...209-story.html

They're calling Trump a Fascist, which in Snell's upside down world means he is a socialist. Sumpin' doesn't jive .. mmmm... what could it be I wonder ....


Trump is not a fascist. You're a fascist.


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Old December 11th 15, 10:45 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 11:53:58 AM UTC-5, Davoud wrote:

Of course, the First Amendment has many enemies among
knuckle-draggers, and they would like to either repeal it or gut it
with other amendments.


Hillary Clinton, knuckle-dragger:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillarys...ism-1430868138


  #47  
Old December 11th 15, 10:50 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:45:06 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 11:53:58 AM UTC-5, Davoud wrote:

Of course, the First Amendment has many enemies among
knuckle-draggers, and they would like to either repeal it or gut it
with other amendments.


Hillary Clinton, knuckle-dragger:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillarys...ism-1430868138

The First Amendment clearly doesn't equate political donations to free
speech, so there is plenty of room for reasonable interpretation there
(and for that interpretation to change over time). Just because
somebody has a different view on something like campaign financing
that doesn't make them a knuckle-dragger.

But of course, you live in a world of black and white, where everyone
whose ideas deviate from yours in even the slightest is subject to
denigration ("fascist" being your insult du jour).
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Old December 11th 15, 11:14 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 5:50:09 PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 14:45:06 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 11:53:58 AM UTC-5, Davoud wrote:

Of course, the First Amendment has many enemies among
knuckle-draggers, and they would like to either repeal it or gut it
with other amendments.


Hillary Clinton, knuckle-dragger:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillarys...ism-1430868138


The First Amendment clearly doesn't equate political donations to free
speech, so there is plenty of room for reasonable interpretation there
(and for that interpretation to change over time).


First Amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF THE PRESS; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Educate yourself, peterson:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._FEC

Just because
somebody has a different view on something like campaign financing
that doesn't make them a knuckle-dragger.


In this case the description is apt.



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Old December 12th 15, 12:59 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 6:54:10 PM UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:14:32 -0800 (PST), wsnell01 wrote:

The First Amendment clearly doesn't equate political donations to free
speech, so there is plenty of room for reasonable interpretation there
(and for that interpretation to change over time).


First Amendment:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; OR ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, OR OF THE PRESS; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


I'm glad to see you agree with me.


I DON'T agree with you. Political donations are citizens' expression of support for a candidate, or his party, or his platform. IOW, free speech, free press.

 




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