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Are you Yubiwan's “Shirley Temple�, Sember ?

Your IP addess is 70.126.222.5, same as Paine_Ellsworth's.
WikiPedia's “User talk:70.126.222.5� redirects to:
“ User talk:173.169.210.96
Just so there isn't any confusion, this is an IP address that
I sometimes (rarely) use to edit when I am
too lazy to log in with my User ID.

A quick check of the contributions will show that
I never use this IP for anything but lazy editing. g
— Paine (Ellsworth's Climax) 20:46, 22 January 2010 (UTC) �

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?....5&redirect=no
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:173.169.210.96

Some of Ronald Lehlbach's aliases:
Yubiwan, Star·Swirler, Panius, Paine Ellsworth, Mr. POISON FALLS.

Yubiwan lives in the Tampa Bay, Florida area; one of his web·sites:

http://home.att.net/~Ron.Lehl-Bach/P...H/millions.htm

Ronald Lehlbach (813) 930-0341 Tampa, FL 33602
2506 West Hamilton Avenue Tampa, FL 33614

By the way, “ Breed like Rabbits, Die like Rabbits. �;
you can't fight hunger, child·prostitution, war, HIV, homelessness, etc.
unless you ·CONTROL· birth·rates ( via, admittedly, draconian laws ).

Sad, but true; if we want a civilized society,
taxes and regulations are the price we must pay.

Heavy·Handed child·support laws have blessed the U.S. AND me.

Paine Ellsworth's contributions to WikiPedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Paine_Ellsworth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...aine_Ellsworth
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/coun...ki=wikipe dia

So you believe we are this human, Jeff?
Cool!
This human has not used his IP for a very long time to post to Usenet!
We will switch to another IP if and when this human starts posting again!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

On Jan 27, 11:01*pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in ...



it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!


That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!


Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would drop to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!


Would that be all bad? Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? You see, you can always find a silver lining!


So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!


Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

"Double-A" wrote in message
...
On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
...



it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!


That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!


However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount) is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still alive!


Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!


Would that be all bad? Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? You see, you can always find a silver lining!


Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely close
to human overpopulation.


So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!


Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A


That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

On Jan 31, 10:42*am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

...



On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
...

it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. *A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount) is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still alive!



Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? *Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? *You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely close
to human overpopulation.



So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

Once again, you Sean Rothscholds toy with us, as though it's just a
matter of time that's essentially meaningless for immortal seans, but
otherwise remains incomprehensibly long and impossibly survivable by
us mere humans that get to suffer and waste away, especially pathetic
when there's so much other good to see and accomplish (in terrestrial
terms, it's called leadership and sharing for the greater good).

Obviously seans don't honestly care about how many lies upon lies are
keeping us from advancing in a relatively normal evolutionary or
intelligent design kind of way. Apparently seans are very pro-satanic
and ritualistic kind of folks that see nothing wrong with allowing
such perverted debauchery to flourish, just like the ZNRs did with
their puppet warlord, Hitler.

~ BG

On Jan 31, 10:42*am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

...





On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
...

it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. *A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount) is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still alive!



Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? *Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? *You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely close
to human overpopulation.



So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander


The seans are so concerned about suicides that might occur upon their
officially revealing their presence, but seem totally unconcerned
about all the sickness and dying that is going on because we lack
their medical technology which could be given to us anytime at their
whim.

Double-A

On Jan 31, 5:52*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Jan 31, 10:42*am, "Kiyo" wrote:



"Double-A" wrote in message

....

On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
...

it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. *A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount) is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still alive!

Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? *Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? *You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely close
to human overpopulation.

So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

The seans are so concerned about suicides that might occur upon their
officially revealing their presence, but seem totally unconcerned
about all the sickness and dying that is going on because we lack
their medical technology which could be given to us anytime at their
whim.

Double-A

Seans are expert whims to start with, as well as transference
wizards. Apparently they have enjoyed toying with us from the very
get-go, and they clearly jolly at needless seismic trauma and all
sorts of natural and artificial induced carnage. Perhaps it's their
form of combined entertainment and population management that can
always get blamed on God (same policy as ZNRs maintain).

~ BG

"Double-A" wrote in message
...
On Jan 31, 10:42 am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

...





On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
...

it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when
nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount)
is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based
upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed
it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still
alive!



Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would
drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of
Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of
the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely
close
to human overpopulation.



So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not
the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by
Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander


The seans are so concerned about suicides that might occur upon their
officially revealing their presence, but seem totally unconcerned
about all the sickness and dying that is going on because we lack
their medical technology which could be given to us anytime at their
whim.

Double-A

It's always a balance, Double-A.
There are always trade-offs, you know that.

It's easy to blame someone else for your lot, but what are you leaving out?
Perhaps it's the fact that, unless Earthbound humans figure out for
themselves a way to control their population, a fast-paced improvement in
our medical science would be almost immediately disastrous.

Ahh yes, but then there's the fact that seans could teach us ways to control
our population.
But just like many things people receive "on a silver platter", they won't
stick, they won't be effective.
There are some things we must do for ourselves.

The very fact that our medical technology has improved dramatically during
the 19th and 20th centuries has only added to the perplexing population
challenge, don't you agree?

And you seem to be forgetting one more thing: I am human -- rescued by the
seans during the second world war -- and I look the same as I did in 1944.
The seans can show us methods to increase our life span that would stagger
you in their simplicity!
Now what would happen if they gave us those little gems of information b e
f o r e we meet our population control challenge?

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

On Jan 31, 8:33*pm, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

...



On Jan 31, 10:42 am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

....

On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
...

it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when
nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. *A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount)
is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based
upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed
it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still
alive!

Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would
drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? *Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? *You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of
Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of
the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely
close
to human overpopulation.

So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not
the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by
Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

The seans are so concerned about suicides that might occur upon their
officially revealing their presence, but seem totally unconcerned
about all the sickness and dying that is going on because we lack
their medical technology which could be given to us anytime at their
whim.

Double-A

It's always a balance, Double-A.
There are always trade-offs, you know that.

It's easy to blame someone else for your lot, but what are you leaving out?
Perhaps it's the fact that, unless Earthbound humans figure out for
themselves a way to control their population, a fast-paced improvement in
our medical science would be almost immediately disastrous.
Not in the least bit, because human births could become logically and
rationally managed via intelligent design, as well as terrestrial
resources salvaged and simply way better utilized, plus we still have
that moon(Selene) just sitting there and causing us nothing but
trouble, so we might as well pillage and plunder our moon for all
she's worth, and otherwise manage a little shade for Earth by
relocating its orbit, as interactively parked within Earth L1.


Ahh yes, but then there's the fact that seans could teach us ways to control
our population.
But just like many things people receive "on a silver platter", they won't
stick, they won't be effective.
There are some things we must do for ourselves.
That's not proper leadership by any measure, or much less by example.


The very fact that our medical technology has improved dramatically during
the 19th and 20th centuries has only added to the perplexing population
challenge, don't you agree?
One nasty and well placed (9+) earthquake, a volcanic eruption (like
greater Yellowstone blowing its lithosphere) or if need be WW3 would
wipe a good portion of the human genetic slate clean. Most likely a
combination of these plus a nasty asteroid encounter would terminate
90% of us (mostly the rich and powerful would survive), and it would
be quite easy for seans to orchestrate any or all of this.


And you seem to be forgetting one more thing: *I am human -- rescued by the
seans during the second world war -- and I look the same as I did in 1944..
The seans can show us methods to increase our life span that would stagger
you in their simplicity!
Now what would happen if they gave us those little gems of information *b e
f o r e *we meet our population control challenge?

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

Some humans should be made as immortal as possible, while others
should wither and die prematurely, and yet others could become
expendables like seans that trek off into interstellar or possibly
intergalactic space without a suitable 3D map or picture like clue as
to what they could run into.

btw; there are constructive ways to deal with a much larger
population, starting with sharing of the best old and new expertise
and its technology, and otherwise going vertical (up as well as
down). Obviously seans as nearly immortals intend to hold out until
there's only a handful of remaining humans.

~ BG

On Jan 31, 6:29*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Jan 31, 5:52*pm, Double-A wrote:





On Jan 31, 10:42*am, "Kiyo" wrote:

"Double-A" wrote in message

....

On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
...

it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. *A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount) is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still alive!

Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? *Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? *You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely close
to human overpopulation.

So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

The seans are so concerned about suicides that might occur upon their
officially revealing their presence, but seem totally unconcerned
about all the sickness and dying that is going on because we lack
their medical technology which could be given to us anytime at their
whim.

Double-A

Seans are expert whims to start with, as well as transference
wizards. *Apparently they have enjoyed toying with us from the very
get-go, and they clearly jolly at needless seismic trauma and all
sorts of natural and artificial induced carnage. *Perhaps it's their
form of combined entertainment and population management that can
always get blamed on God (same policy as ZNRs maintain).

*~ BG


Yes, perhaps we are all part of a big show, a Roman Coliseum type show
where many succumb to staged disasters and acts of violence for the
entertainment of the audience. We are the victims, and the seans are
the spectators!

Double-A

On Jan 31, 8:33*pm, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

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On Jan 31, 10:42 am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message

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On Jan 27, 11:01 pm, "Sember" wrote:
"Artimus Q Dufflebag" wrote in
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it's rather sad that conservatives think that bible stories and
parables
are a good way to debate
facts.

Actually, Duff, that's a liberalist ploy!
Conservatives think that the best way to deal with facts is to conceal
them!
And for good reason!

We, for example, would not dream of engaging official contact when
nearly
40% would jump off buildings rather than deal with the effects of the
certainty of us!

That assessment sounds totally unrealistic. *A good portion of the
population already believe that aliens are here!

However unrealistic it may sound, it is based upon the seans previous
experiences with other human-populated worlds.
Your point about the "good portion" (which could mean almost ANY amount)
is
unrealistic.
But not for the reason you might think.
It is unrealistic because it is one thing to believe in something based
upon
circumstantial evidence, and another thing to believe in something that's
been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to exist!

After official contact, some people will say, "Yeah, I always believed
it,
but I never actually BELIEVED it!"
When I was rescued, I thought I was dreaming at first.
For the first few weeks, I honestly thought that I had died and was in
heaven!
It took many weeks for me to adjust to the reality that I was still
alive!

Yes, the current estimate is that the global human population would
drop
to
about 4,150,000,000 within three weeks if official contact were to be
engaged today!

Would that be all bad? *Isn't global overpopulation becoming a
problem? *You see, you can always find a silver lining!

Some people see it that way, yes, but not the seans.
The population of Earthbound humans is getting large for the size of
Earth
and the amount of her resources.
However the human population is tiny compared to the human population of
the
galaxy, let alone the total sean population, let alone the many other
sentient species.
Earth is not yet "overpopulated", and the galaxy isn't even remotely
close
to human overpopulation.

So this potential suicide rate must improve considerably before we can
seriously entertain thoughts of officially unconcealing our presence!

--
**** S e m b e r
Freedom is for EVERYONE!
Promote liberty for ALL!

Perhaps adding a tranquilizer to the Earth's water supplies on the day
of the big announcement would help.

Double-A

That is only a "bandaid", Double-A.
What happens when the tranq wears off?
The seans will not like anything that treats merely the symptom and not
the
cause of the fear.

On a separate note, I have been asked by my trainer, Sember, and by
Yubiwan,
to post details about what is known about the missing crews.
I shall do so in a different post.

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander

The seans are so concerned about suicides that might occur upon their
officially revealing their presence, but seem totally unconcerned
about all the sickness and dying that is going on because we lack
their medical technology which could be given to us anytime at their
whim.

Double-A

It's always a balance, Double-A.
There are always trade-offs, you know that.

It's easy to blame someone else for your lot, but what are you leaving out?
Perhaps it's the fact that, unless Earthbound humans figure out for
themselves a way to control their population, a fast-paced improvement in
our medical science would be almost immediately disastrous.

Ahh yes, but then there's the fact that seans could teach us ways to control
our population.


Bingo!


But just like many things people receive "on a silver platter", they won't
stick, they won't be effective.
There are some things we must do for ourselves.


Each of us receives our whole culture on a silver platter when we are
born.


The very fact that our medical technology has improved dramatically during
the 19th and 20th centuries has only added to the perplexing population
challenge, don't you agree?


As things stand, yes, along with improved food technology keeping most
of us overfed. But seans have the answers to these dilemmas.


And you seem to be forgetting one more thing: *I am human -- rescued by the
seans during the second world war -- and I look the same as I did in 1944..


Really? Same hair style even?


The seans can show us methods to increase our life span that would stagger
you in their simplicity!
Now what would happen if they gave us those little gems of information *b e
f o r e *we meet our population control challenge?

--
***** Kiyo
System Commander


It could be a package deal, delivered on a "silver platter"! Humans
can adapt to change quickly. Remember the fall of communism?

Double-A