Debris Spews Into Space in Collision of Satellites / nyt

On Mar 16, 4:19*am, Robert Eagle wrote:
You're right, of course. *But a few years ago, when I posted details of my
documentary "Space the final junkyard" , I was lambasted by every bore and
blowhard in the space news groups. *It takes a long time for the message to
get through!

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:25:51 +0000, BradGuth wrote
(in article
):

Debris Spews Into Space in Collision of Satellites / nyt
*http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/12/sc...ellite.html?hp
*A wussy little 1.2 tonne Iridium and a few tonnes of something
Russian just made one hell of a mess, that’s only going to get worse
before getting better for ISS and any number of other satellites.

This could cascade, and if it does our future of reliable satellite
placements is at risk, not to mention complex consequences for manned
missions.

*~ BG

Your "Space the final junkyard" is just more of the same old 'I told
you so', whereas now the odds of government, commercial and private
missions running into stuff is only going to get substantially worse,
especially as of 2028 and 2029 when a couple of big rocks are coming
through our fleet of satellites, plus whatever future unexpected sneak
attacks that get below the GSO belt.

As the debris interacts it'll become kind of like having a terrestrial
Oort cloud, whereas only the most advanced efforts are going to get
future missions safely through the gauntlet. Perhaps adding a few
tonnes of armor to each new satellite is no longer an option.

Of course the ultimate fix is going to add to the cost of living,
though mostly impacting the poor and middle class that do not have
those nifty offshore methods of hiding their loot, or SEC approved
Ponzi Madoff methods of getting way more than our fair share.

Perhaps now you can get funding in order to edit and reproduce that
same program on BBC and PBS, not that it'll do any good in changing
the ways we go about overpopulating those orbital realms. ISS has
become such a large target, that I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been
taken out thus far, and I think it was China considering a few
retrograde satellites.

In other words, it's too late and only going to get a whole lot worse
before getting any better.

~ BG

On Mar 16, 4:19*am, Robert Eagle wrote:
You're right, of course. *But a few years ago, when I posted details of my
documentary "Space the final junkyard" , I was lambasted by every bore and
blowhard in the space news groups. *It takes a long time for the message to
get through!

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 03:25:51 +0000, BradGuth wrote
(in article
):

Debris Spews Into Space in Collision of Satellites / nyt
*http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/12/sc...ellite.html?hp
*A wussy little 1.2 tonne Iridium and a few tonnes of something
Russian just made one hell of a mess, that’s only going to get worse
before getting better for ISS and any number of other satellites.

This could cascade, and if it does our future of reliable satellite
placements is at risk, not to mention complex consequences for manned
missions.

*~ BG

That's odd, whereas I'd posted my reply some time ago, and it
seemingly didn't take because you had excluded those original
newsgroups of alt.astronomy, misc.education.science and sci.physics.

"Space the final junkyard" / Space: the final junkyard
http://www.eagletv.co.uk/home/space.htm

Perhaps BBC and PBS can make this production of yours even better.

It's another good example of others not paying any attention to
whatever yourself or anyone else had to say. Now it's going to cost
us, big time, as in billions upon billions of our hard earned loot.

Here's my reply once again:
Your "Space the final junkyard" is just more of the same old 'I told
you so', whereas now the odds of government, commercial and private
missions running into stuff is only going to get substantially worse,
especially as of 2028 and 2029 when a couple of big rocks are coming
through our fleet of satellites, plus whatever future unexpected sneak
attacks that get below the GSO belt.

As the debris interacts it'll become kind of like having a terrestrial
Oort cloud, whereas only the most advanced efforts are going to get
future missions safely through the gauntlet. Perhaps adding a few
tonnes of armor to each new satellite is no longer an option.

Of course the ultimate fix is going to add to the cost of living,
though mostly impacting the poor and middle class that do not have
those nifty offshore methods of hiding their loot, or SEC approved
Ponzi Madoff methods of getting way more than our fair share.

Perhaps now you can get funding in order to edit and reproduce that
same program on BBC and PBS, not that it'll do any good in changing
the ways we go about overpopulating those orbital realms. ISS has
become such a large target, that I'm kind of surprised it hasn't been
taken out thus far, and I think it was China considering a few
retrograde satellites.

In other words, it's too late and only going to get a whole lot worse
before getting any better.

~ BG

On Mar 16, 5:19*am, Robert Eagle wrote:
You're right, of course. *But a few years ago, when I posted details of my
documentary "Space the final junkyard" , I was lambasted by every bore and
blowhard in the space news groups. *It takes a long time for the message to
get through!


The really profound think about junk in orbit is that "What goes
around comes around!"

Double-A

On Mar 16, 4:20*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:19*am, Robert Eagle wrote:

You're right, of course. *But a few years ago, when I posted details of my
documentary "Space the final junkyard" , I was lambasted by every bore and
blowhard in the space news groups. *It takes a long time for the message to
get through!

The really profound think about junk in orbit is that "What goes
around comes around!"

Double-A

And now it's only going to cost us another $10+ trillion in order to
clean up the mess we created.

~ BG

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:56:06 +0000, BradGuth wrote
(in article
):

On Mar 16, 4:20*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:19*am, Robert Eagle wrote:

You're right, of course. *But a few years ago, when I posted details of my
documentary "Space the final junkyard" , I was lambasted by every bore and
blowhard in the space news groups. *It takes a long time for the message to
get through!

The really profound think about junk in orbit is that "What goes
around comes around!"

Double-A

And now it's only going to cost us another $10+ trillion in order to
clean up the mess we created.

~ BG

It's not going to cost anything - because no one is willing to pay for it to
be done!

RE

On Mar 18, 2:34*am, Robert Eagle wrote:
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:56:06 +0000, BradGuth wrote
(in article
):



On Mar 16, 4:20*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:19*am, Robert Eagle wrote:

You're right, of course. *But a few years ago, when I posted details of my
documentary "Space the final junkyard" , I was lambasted by every bore and
blowhard in the space news groups. *It takes a long time for the message to
get through!

The really profound think about junk in orbit is that "What goes
around comes around!"

Double-A

And now it's only going to cost us another $10+ trillion in order to
clean up the mess we created.

*~ BG

It's not going to cost anything - because no one is willing to pay for it to
be done!

RE

That's true. It'll be every man, woman, child and satellite for
itself.

In reality, our NASA and Russia like having that crap flying every
which way, because then only the most advanced nations would dare go
into space.

Come 2028 and 2029 should be the ultimate test, of who can still orbit
without being taken out by some kind of rogue space debris, and simply
let the next 10 generations pay for everything.

~ BG