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On May 19, 6:54 pm, Rich wrote:
BradGuth wrote: Yes I do happen to have at least one good method of moving that big old salty moon of ours. Unfortunately, it has to do with the regular laws of physics that your hocus-pocus conditional physics simply isn't going to appreciate one damn bit. Damn me. Can you clue me in perchance? For a time, I'd thought you were one of the all-knowing good guys. Do you folks even believe in the regular laws of physics? If not, than anything I or anyone else has to offer is not going to fly. Relocating our moon to Earth's L2 isn't hocus-pocus or otherwise requiring of smoke and mirrors, although a few mirrors might play an important part in the game plan of our establishing the moon's tethered 2X or 3X L2 passive tug. Of course, that's a great deal of applied force that you naysay folks wouldn't know anything about. - Brad Guth |
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BradGuth wrote:
On May 19, 6:54 pm, Rich wrote: BradGuth wrote: Yes I do happen to have at least one good method of moving that big old salty moon of ours. Unfortunately, it has to do with the regular laws of physics that your hocus-pocus conditional physics simply isn't going to appreciate one damn bit. Damn me. Can you clue me in perchance? For a time, I'd thought you were one of the all-knowing good guys. Me? A good guy? I don't work there. But thanx for the vote of confidence. Do you folks even believe in the regular laws of physics? For the irregular laws of physics use ex-lax, no ****. If not, than anything I or anyone else has to offer is not going to fly. I don't think that whether they fly or not is dependent on myself in any way. Relocating our moon to Earth's L2 isn't hocus-pocus or otherwise requiring of smoke and mirrors, although a few mirrors might play an important part in the game plan of our establishing the moon's tethered 2X or 3X L2 passive tug. A tethered passive tug? Eir ya pulling my leg laddie? Of course, that's a great deal of applied force that you naysay folks wouldn't know anything about. Nay I say. I still don't know anything about it. Maybe it's for the best. Cheers, Rich - Brad Guth |
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On May 20, 10:27 am, Rich wrote:
BradGuth wrote: On May 19, 6:54 pm, Rich wrote: BradGuth wrote: Yes I do happen to have at least one good method of moving that big old salty moon of ours. Unfortunately, it has to do with the regular laws of physics that your hocus-pocus conditional physics simply isn't going to appreciate one damn bit. Damn me. Can you clue me in perchance? For a time, I'd thought you were one of the all-knowing good guys. Me? A good guy? I don't work there. But thanx for the vote of confidence. Do you folks even believe in the regular laws of physics? For the irregular laws of physics use ex-lax, no ****. If not, than anything I or anyone else has to offer is not going to fly. I don't think that whether they fly or not is dependent on myself in any way. Relocating our moon to Earth's L2 isn't hocus-pocus or otherwise requiring of smoke and mirrors, although a few mirrors might play an important part in the game plan of our establishing the moon's tethered 2X or 3X L2 passive tug. A tethered passive tug? Eir ya pulling my leg laddie? Of course, that's a great deal of applied force that you naysay folks wouldn't know anything about. Nay I say. I still don't know anything about it. Maybe it's for the best. Cheers, Rich - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Are all such Usenet rusemasters (aka naysayers) such wussyass dumbfounded fools, and otherwise infomercial spewing sorts of intellectual bigots like yourself? If you silly brown-nosed clowns (aka MI/NSA spooks and moles) keep pretending that you don't understand the basic physics of a tug, then what's the point? Are you actually saying that you folks have no honest idea what a 2X worth of our moon's L2 is worth? Do you even care enough as to pretend that to know of where the moon's L2 is? Where's are those supercomputer derived 3D simulations, that which proves out far more than we're supposed to know about? Is your brown-nosed borg collective in charge of your private parts? - Brad Guth |
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In article .com,
BradGuth wrote: Are all such Usenet rusemasters (aka naysayers) such wussyass dumbfounded fools, and otherwise infomercial spewing sorts of intellectual bigots like yourself? If you silly brown-nosed clowns (aka MI/NSA spooks and moles) keep pretending that you don't understand the basic physics of a tug, then what's the point? Are you actually saying that you folks have no honest idea what a 2X worth of our moon's L2 is worth? Do you even care enough as to pretend that to know of where the moon's L2 is? Where's are those supercomputer derived 3D simulations, that which proves out far more than we're supposed to know about? Celestia Astrograv -- COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command). Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy singularity. |
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In sci.physics, Rich
wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 17:49:17 -0700 : BradGuth wrote: Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway) Errr, is not L1 unstable? And L1 is about 4x the current lunar distance. Given that an eclipse at the current distance sweeps a narrow path across the earth it would seem that the moon at that distance would provide very little shade, if any. I like the Fututurama approach better, and it's much more doable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgE_m...elated&search= [...] Heh...but where do we get the ice from? :-) (Or is that answered later on?) Rich - Brad Guth -- #191, Windows. When it absolutely, positively, has to crash. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On May 20, 12:40 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote: In sci.physics, Rich wrote on Thu, 17 May 2007 17:49:17 -0700 : BradGuth wrote: Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway) Errr, is not L1 unstable? Earth's L1 is NOT unstable, and as such it's not going away any time soon. And L1 is about 4x the current lunar distance. Given that an eclipse at the current distance sweeps a narrow path across the earth it would seem that the moon at that distance would provide very little shade, if any. I like the Fututurama approach better, and it's much more doable. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgE_m...elated&search= [...] Heh...but where do we get the ice from? :-) (Or is that answered later on?) Not to worry, as we could get loads of red ice from little old Sedna, though most likely it'll be salty ice, plus loaded with lots of nifty cosmic DNA at that. - Brad Guth |
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In article .com,
BradGuth wrote: BradGuth wrote: Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway) Errr, is not L1 unstable? Earth's L1 is NOT unstable, and as such it's not going away any time soon. http://www.physics.montana.edu/facul.../lagrange.html To quote "Of the five Lagrange points, three are unstable and two are stable. The *unstable* *Lagrange* *points* - labelled *L1*, *L2* and *L3* - lie along the line connecting the two large masses. The stable Lagrange points - labelled L4 and L5 - form the apex of two equilateral triangles that have the large masses at their vertices. " -- COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command). Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy singularity. |
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![]() "The Ghost In The Machine" wrote in message ... : In sci.physics, Rich : : wrote : on Thu, 17 May 2007 17:49:17 -0700 : : : BradGuth wrote: : Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway) : : Errr, is not L1 unstable? : : And L1 is about 4x the current lunar distance. Given that an eclipse : at the current distance sweeps a narrow path across the earth it : would seem that the moon at that distance would provide very little : shade, if any. : : I like the Fututurama approach better, and it's much more doable. : : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgE_m...elated&search= : : [...] : : Heh...but where do we get the ice from? :-) (Or is that answered later : on?) The fridge. Don't you know anything? THE FRIDGE! ONCE AND FOR ALL! L1 is not stable. http://faculty.ifmo.ru/butikov/Proje...llection1.html |
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On May 20, 1:48 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck
wrote: In article .com, BradGuth wrote: BradGuth wrote: Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway) Errr, is not L1 unstable? Earth's L1 is NOT unstable, and as such it's not going away any time soon. http://www.physics.montana.edu/facul.../lagrange.html To quote "Of the five Lagrange points, three are unstable and two are stable. The *unstable* *Lagrange* *points* - labelled *L1*, *L2* and *L3* - lie along the line connecting the two large masses. The stable Lagrange points - labelled L4 and L5 - form the apex of two equilateral triangles that have the large masses at their vertices. " Then why are all the other Earth L1 science platforms still doing perfectly fine and dandy? You folks never did bother to specify as how much station-keeping energy per tonne it takes per year, for sustaining that halo orbit of Earth's L1. BTW; the moon and of its easily established tethered elements of various interactive CM(counter mass) offers teraWatts of such energy, or of equal force to spare. How would you silly naysay folks care to utilize it? - Brad Guth |
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In article .com,
BradGuth wrote: Then why are all the other Earth L1 science platforms still doing perfectly fine and dandy? Unstable = needs to be self-balancing You folks never did bother to specify as how much station-keeping energy per tonne it takes per year, for sustaining that halo orbit of Earth's L1. Then look it up. BTW; the moon and of its easily established tethered elements of various interactive CM(counter mass) offers teraWatts of such energy, or of equal force to spare. How would you silly naysay folks care to utilize it? Shut up Brad. -- COOSN-174-07-82116: Official Science Team mascot and alt.astronomy's favourite poster (from a survey taken of the saucerhead high command). Sacred keeper of the Hollow Sphere, and the space within the Coffee Boy singularity. |
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