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Old May 20th 07, 05:11 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Earth will manage to get hotter

On May 19, 6:54 pm, Rich wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
Yes I do happen to have at least one good method of moving that big
old salty moon of ours. Unfortunately, it has to do with the regular
laws of physics that your hocus-pocus conditional physics simply isn't
going to appreciate one damn bit.


Damn me.

Can you clue me in perchance?


For a time, I'd thought you were one of the all-knowing good guys.

Do you folks even believe in the regular laws of physics?

If not, than anything I or anyone else has to offer is not going to
fly.

Relocating our moon to Earth's L2 isn't hocus-pocus or otherwise
requiring of smoke and mirrors, although a few mirrors might play an
important part in the game plan of our establishing the moon's
tethered 2X or 3X L2 passive tug.

Of course, that's a great deal of applied force that you naysay folks
wouldn't know anything about.
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  #42  
Old May 20th 07, 06:27 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
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BradGuth wrote:
On May 19, 6:54 pm, Rich wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
Yes I do happen to have at least one good method of moving that big
old salty moon of ours. Unfortunately, it has to do with the regular
laws of physics that your hocus-pocus conditional physics simply isn't
going to appreciate one damn bit.

Damn me.

Can you clue me in perchance?


For a time, I'd thought you were one of the all-knowing good guys.


Me? A good guy? I don't work there. But thanx for the vote of confidence.

Do you folks even believe in the regular laws of physics?


For the irregular laws of physics use ex-lax, no ****.

If not, than anything I or anyone else has to offer is not going to
fly.


I don't think that whether they fly or not is dependent on myself in
any way.

Relocating our moon to Earth's L2 isn't hocus-pocus or otherwise
requiring of smoke and mirrors, although a few mirrors might play an
important part in the game plan of our establishing the moon's
tethered 2X or 3X L2 passive tug.


A tethered passive tug? Eir ya pulling my leg laddie?

Of course, that's a great deal of applied force that you naysay folks
wouldn't know anything about.


Nay I say. I still don't know anything about it. Maybe it's for the best.

Cheers,

Rich

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  #43  
Old May 20th 07, 08:16 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
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On May 20, 10:27 am, Rich wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
On May 19, 6:54 pm, Rich wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
Yes I do happen to have at least one good method of moving that big
old salty moon of ours. Unfortunately, it has to do with the regular
laws of physics that your hocus-pocus conditional physics simply isn't
going to appreciate one damn bit.
Damn me.


Can you clue me in perchance?


For a time, I'd thought you were one of the all-knowing good guys.


Me? A good guy? I don't work there. But thanx for the vote of confidence.

Do you folks even believe in the regular laws of physics?


For the irregular laws of physics use ex-lax, no ****.

If not, than anything I or anyone else has to offer is not going to
fly.


I don't think that whether they fly or not is dependent on myself in
any way.

Relocating our moon to Earth's L2 isn't hocus-pocus or otherwise
requiring of smoke and mirrors, although a few mirrors might play an
important part in the game plan of our establishing the moon's
tethered 2X or 3X L2 passive tug.


A tethered passive tug? Eir ya pulling my leg laddie?

Of course, that's a great deal of applied force that you naysay folks
wouldn't know anything about.


Nay I say. I still don't know anything about it. Maybe it's for the best.

Cheers,

Rich



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Are all such Usenet rusemasters (aka naysayers) such wussyass
dumbfounded fools, and otherwise infomercial spewing sorts of
intellectual bigots like yourself?

If you silly brown-nosed clowns (aka MI/NSA spooks and moles) keep
pretending that you don't understand the basic physics of a tug, then
what's the point?

Are you actually saying that you folks have no honest idea what a 2X
worth of our moon's L2 is worth?

Do you even care enough as to pretend that to know of where the moon's
L2 is?

Where's are those supercomputer derived 3D simulations, that which
proves out far more than we're supposed to know about?

Is your brown-nosed borg collective in charge of your private parts?
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  #44  
Old May 20th 07, 08:34 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
Phineas T Puddleduck[_2_]
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Default Earth will manage to get hotter

In article .com,
BradGuth wrote:

Are all such Usenet rusemasters (aka naysayers) such wussyass
dumbfounded fools, and otherwise infomercial spewing sorts of
intellectual bigots like yourself?

If you silly brown-nosed clowns (aka MI/NSA spooks and moles) keep
pretending that you don't understand the basic physics of a tug, then
what's the point?

Are you actually saying that you folks have no honest idea what a 2X
worth of our moon's L2 is worth?

Do you even care enough as to pretend that to know of where the moon's
L2 is?

Where's are those supercomputer derived 3D simulations, that which
proves out far more than we're supposed to know about?



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  #45  
Old May 20th 07, 08:40 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
The Ghost In The Machine
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Default Earth will manage to get hotter

In sci.physics, Rich

wrote
on Thu, 17 May 2007 17:49:17 -0700
:
BradGuth wrote:
Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway)


Errr, is not L1 unstable?

And L1 is about 4x the current lunar distance. Given that an eclipse
at the current distance sweeps a narrow path across the earth it
would seem that the moon at that distance would provide very little
shade, if any.

I like the Fututurama approach better, and it's much more doable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgE_m...elated&search=

[...]


Heh...but where do we get the ice from? :-) (Or is that answered later
on?)


Rich

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  #46  
Old May 20th 07, 09:41 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Earth will manage to get hotter

On May 20, 12:40 pm, The Ghost In The Machine
wrote:
In sci.physics, Rich

wrote
on Thu, 17 May 2007 17:49:17 -0700
:

BradGuth wrote:
Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway)


Errr, is not L1 unstable?


Earth's L1 is NOT unstable, and as such it's not going away any time
soon.


And L1 is about 4x the current lunar distance. Given that an eclipse
at the current distance sweeps a narrow path across the earth it
would seem that the moon at that distance would provide very little
shade, if any.


I like the Fututurama approach better, and it's much more doable.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgE_m...elated&search=


[...]


Heh...but where do we get the ice from? :-) (Or is that answered later
on?)


Not to worry, as we could get loads of red ice from little old Sedna,
though most likely it'll be salty ice, plus loaded with lots of nifty
cosmic DNA at that.
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  #47  
Old May 20th 07, 09:48 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
Phineas T Puddleduck[_2_]
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Default Earth will manage to get hotter

In article .com,
BradGuth wrote:

BradGuth wrote:
Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway)


Errr, is not L1 unstable?


Earth's L1 is NOT unstable, and as such it's not going away any time
soon.



http://www.physics.montana.edu/facul.../lagrange.html

To quote

"Of the five Lagrange points, three are unstable and two are stable. The
*unstable* *Lagrange* *points* - labelled *L1*, *L2* and *L3* - lie along the
line connecting the two large masses. The stable Lagrange points - labelled L4
and L5 - form the apex of two equilateral triangles that have the large masses
at their vertices. "

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  #48  
Old May 20th 07, 09:52 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
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"The Ghost In The Machine" wrote in message
...
: In sci.physics, Rich
:
: wrote
: on Thu, 17 May 2007 17:49:17 -0700
: :
: BradGuth wrote:
: Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway)
:
: Errr, is not L1 unstable?
:
: And L1 is about 4x the current lunar distance. Given that an eclipse
: at the current distance sweeps a narrow path across the earth it
: would seem that the moon at that distance would provide very little
: shade, if any.
:
: I like the Fututurama approach better, and it's much more doable.
:
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgE_m...elated&search=
:
: [...]
:
: Heh...but where do we get the ice from? :-) (Or is that answered later
: on?)

The fridge. Don't you know anything?
THE FRIDGE! ONCE AND FOR ALL!

L1 is not stable.
http://faculty.ifmo.ru/butikov/Proje...llection1.html







  #49  
Old May 20th 07, 10:06 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
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Default Earth will manage to get hotter

On May 20, 1:48 pm, Phineas T Puddleduck
wrote:
In article .com,

BradGuth wrote:
BradGuth wrote:
Moon --- Earth L1 (easier said and done, but we should do it anyway)


Errr, is not L1 unstable?


Earth's L1 is NOT unstable, and as such it's not going away any time
soon.


http://www.physics.montana.edu/facul.../lagrange.html

To quote

"Of the five Lagrange points, three are unstable and two are stable. The
*unstable* *Lagrange* *points* - labelled *L1*, *L2* and *L3* - lie along the
line connecting the two large masses. The stable Lagrange points - labelled L4
and L5 - form the apex of two equilateral triangles that have the large masses
at their vertices. "


Then why are all the other Earth L1 science platforms still doing
perfectly fine and dandy?

You folks never did bother to specify as how much station-keeping
energy per tonne it takes per year, for sustaining that halo orbit of
Earth's L1.

BTW; the moon and of its easily established tethered elements of
various interactive CM(counter mass) offers teraWatts of such energy,
or of equal force to spare. How would you silly naysay folks care to
utilize it?
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  #50  
Old May 20th 07, 10:10 PM posted to soc.culture.usa,sci.physics,sci.space.policy,sci.astro,alt.astronomy
Phineas T Puddleduck[_2_]
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In article .com,
BradGuth wrote:

Then why are all the other Earth L1 science platforms still doing
perfectly fine and dandy?


Unstable = needs to be self-balancing

You folks never did bother to specify as how much station-keeping
energy per tonne it takes per year, for sustaining that halo orbit of
Earth's L1.



Then look it up.


BTW; the moon and of its easily established tethered elements of
various interactive CM(counter mass) offers teraWatts of such energy,
or of equal force to spare. How would you silly naysay folks care to
utilize it?



Shut up Brad.



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