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OM spewed out:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:50:09 -0700, Mike Dicenso
wrote:


Because of that you missed on the whole Dominion War series of story arcs.
You fool.


...Ironically, the best episode - IMHO - of that whole Dominion War
was the one where Rom becomes Grand Nagus :-)


OM


*SPLORF* I DID see that one. Gotta love that Moogie.

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

You also get a couple of nice 3-D shots of the 3' model superimposed
next to itself, something that a *lot* of people wonder why they can't
remember that scene in the actual show :-)

Actually that was the 3' model photographed alongside an 18"
commercially available AMT model. You can tell this because the ship in
the background (the 3' model is in the foreground in glorious detail) has
no paint job, decal markings, and most importantly there are no
hemispheres on the nacelle cowlings.
-Mike

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:07:22 -0500, Doug...
wrote:

LOL, same here... though I have seen the Enterprise opening with the
original orchestral theme* composed for the show, and it works really
well. I, for one, wish they would go back to it.

....Was this from the affiliates screener? I'd heard about this one,
but nobody had it for download on a.b.startrek. Somehow this one got
past the pirates, dammit!


OM

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:25:24 GMT, Bruce Palmer
wrote:

OM spewed out:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:50:09 -0700, Mike Dicenso
wrote:

Because of that you missed on the whole Dominion War series of story arcs.
You fool.

...Ironically, the best episode - IMHO - of that whole Dominion War
was the one where Rom becomes Grand Nagus :-)

*SPLORF* I DID see that one. Gotta love that Moogie.

....The whole ending screams for a Peter David novel, in which
someone's trying to kill Rom, Moogie gets Quark to try and figure out
who's behind it, and while Quark bumbles through it all Rom gets
kidnapped. Since Rom left the inheritance of the Nagus to Quark, he
realizes that if he becomes Nagus, he'll be *next. At the end of the
book he decides he's got no idea how to save Rom, nor wants to be
Nagus anymore, and decides to go through the wormhole in search of the
one person who can solve everything.

Which leads us to book two, where we find out whether accessing the
Great Link leads to a lot of weird porn popups...


OM

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poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

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On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:14:47 -0700, Mike Dicenso
wrote:



On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

You also get a couple of nice 3-D shots of the 3' model superimposed
next to itself, something that a *lot* of people wonder why they can't
remember that scene in the actual show :-)

Actually that was the 3' model photographed alongside an 18"
commercially available AMT model. You can tell this because the ship in
the background (the 3' model is in the foreground in glorious detail) has
no paint job, decal markings, and most importantly there are no
hemispheres on the nacelle cowlings.

....I need to see that image again. It's been about 35 years :-(


OM

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his country. He won it by making the other | Sergeant-At-Arms
poor dumb ******* die for his country." | Human O-Ring Society

- General George S. Patton, Jr

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om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy... _facility.org says...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:07:22 -0500, Doug...
wrote:

LOL, same here... though I have seen the Enterprise opening with the
original orchestral theme* composed for the show, and it works really
well. I, for one, wish they would go back to it.

...Was this from the affiliates screener? I'd heard about this one,
but nobody had it for download on a.b.startrek. Somehow this one got
past the pirates, dammit!

I found it via one of those peer-to-peer networks. It works quite well -
- you have the new theme throughout all the historical images, and as
soon as the Phoenix (from ST:First Contact) appears, the music swells
into the familiar Alexander Courage flourish. Damn near brings tears to
the eyes.

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On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:14:47 -0700, Mike Dicenso
wrote:



On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, OM wrote:

You also get a couple of nice 3-D shots of the 3' model superimposed
next to itself, something that a *lot* of people wonder why they can't
remember that scene in the actual show :-)

Actually that was the 3' model photographed alongside an 18"
commercially available AMT model. You can tell this because the ship in
the background (the 3' model is in the foreground in glorious detail) has
no paint job, decal markings, and most importantly there are no
hemispheres on the nacelle cowlings.

...I need to see that image again. It's been about 35 years :-(

I still have mine buried somewhere in storage along with the GAF version
of SPACE:1999's "Wargames".
-Mike

"Bruce Palmer" wrote in message
.net...

That's not right. They've tied Vulcan mind melding into homosexuality?
Not
right at all. Brannon and Braga (and Piller to some extent) have screwed
Star
Trek big time and Paramount doesn't care as long as they can sell it to
advertisers, er, uh, I mean "networks". Rodenberry is dizzy by now.

Remember when ST was inspiring? I do. I designed my own starships and gave
them original names and NCC numbers. I dreamed about going to faraway places
and doing cool stuff. My 14-year-old brother is at that same stage right
now... He's got some cool Star Trek video games to give him ideas (lucky
kid), but I can't say that modern ST ignites the imagination the same way
TNG did for me.

From my POV it's been basically the same dozen or so cliches recycled over
and over again for a long time. The cliches were occasional bumps in the
road during TNG and DS9, but Voyager to me was just one big cliche episode
after another... The cast, the plots, the character relationships,
everything was boring and PC and touchy-feely. I totally quit watching ST
after the first year or so of Voyager. Enterprise has made a partial
recovery, *finally* some refreshing stuff going on (glad to see some
hell-for-leather & guts again) but it's still got some whine-and-cheese
problems.

I think Brannon & Braga getting up and telling the fans off about anything
warrants a group beating. Contempt for the audience is a serious problem in
the modern media... It is never a good thing.

I hope I'm not rambling too much, I have admittedly been drinking. Just my
..02 on the Star Trek thing... I wonder if anybody's done a survey on how
Star Trek inspired people to work in the space program. You hear this often
when the subject comes up, but I wonder if numbers bear it out.

"Terrence Daniels" wrote

From my POV it's been basically the same dozen or so cliches recycled over
and over again for a long time. The cliches were occasional bumps in the
road during TNG and DS9, but Voyager to me was just one big cliche episode
after another... The cast, the plots, the character relationships,
everything was boring and PC and touchy-feely. I totally quit watching ST
after the first year or so of Voyager. Enterprise has made a partial
recovery, *finally* some refreshing stuff going on (glad to see some
hell-for-leather & guts again) but it's still got some whine-and-cheese
problems.

If the writers could at least keep a good "backstory" going behind the main
plot line in an episode they'd probably do better. My wife and I noticed
that this seemed to get better about halfway through last year. I don't
think the writing is yet on the level of "Law & Order" (IMHO), but the
developing story line about the Delphic Expanse provides a decent escape;
it's got potential.

Jon