SETI Ignores the Evidence

More simplistic and peurile mind games. Why don't you trot down to your
local mental institution and plead with them to have your nervous system
checked for chemical imbalance. You may be suffering from a brain
disorder which could bloom into a full scale attack of paranoid
schizophrenia one day, if you aren't careful to have checked now.

BP wrote:

I call you a jerk cause that it what you are...

Really MS you can do better than that. That is strictly 12 year old logic.
Wait that is insulting 12 year olds.

BP

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
ers.com...

No, I call people like you sociopaths because that is what you are.

BP wrote:


Not only that Wally, he calls everyone else a sociopath. I kind of find

it

amusing.

Bohdan P

"Wally Anglesea" wrote in

message

...


"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
.net.cable.rogers.com...


Do your own research.


BP: Note Mad Scientist. When called to present evidence to back up his
assertions, he backpeddals, or gives you kook sites.
That's why he's a kook.





BP wrote:



Alright, maddie...I'll bite... Who the F is NARCAP.. I've been in
aviation
for most of my life and never heard of NARCAP. Plus bring me a pilot

that


has seen a UFO, and you'll win the prize. How about this...moron. If

a


post falls in an empty ng...is it heard? I worked in intelligence in

the


AF
and can;'t figure out half of the garbage you are spewing. Is life

that


hard?

Twinning was a MAJOR General in 1947.

Not to mention the rest of this offers no proof per se... rather
conjecture.
Rather old reading.

BP




In a 1952 classified report for the Air Technical Intelligence

Center

(ATIC) at Wright Patterson Air
Force Base, Hynek recommended that the UFO question be given "the
status
of a scientific problem,"
freeing the scientists from the restraints of secrecy which confuse

the


public. "The number of truly
puzzling incidents is now impressive," he reported. "The first

effort

should be to determine with great
accuracy what the phenomena to be explained really are and to

establish


their reality beyond all
question."16"

"The testimony of Dr. James E. McDonald, senior physicist of the
Institute of Atmospheric Physics and
Professor of Meteorology at the University of Arizona, was the most
extensive. A respected authority
and leader in the field of atmospheric physics, McDonald had

authored

highly technical papers for
professional journals. He spent two years examining formerly

classified


official file material and radar
tracking data on UFOs; interviewing several hundred witnesses; and
conducting in-depth case
investigations, details of which were provided to the Committee."

"McDonald told the Committee that no other problem within their
jurisdiction compared to this one.
"The scientific community, not only in this country but throughout

the


world, has been casually
ignoring as nonsense a matter of extraordinary scientific

importance."


McDonald indicated that he
leaned towards the extraterrestrial hypothesis as an explanation,

due

to
"a process of elimination of
other alternative hypotheses, not by arguments based on what I

could

call 'irrefutable proof.'" 24"

"Dr. Bernard Haisch, Director of the California Institute for

Physics

and Astrophysics and author of
over a hundred published papers, agrees. "I propose that true
skepticism
is called for today: neither the
gullible acceptance of true belief nor the closed-minded rejection

of

the scoffer masquerading as the
skeptic." Haisch was the editor of the JSE for twelve years. "Any
scientist who has not read a few
serious books and articles presenting actual UFO evidence should

out

of


intellectual honesty refrain

from making scientific pronouncements," he says. "To look at the



evidence and go away unconvinced
is one thing. To not look at the evidence and be convinced against

it

nonetheless is another. That is not
science. Do your homework!"84"

--

I really like this last quote where Dr. Bernard Haisch says, "to

look

at
the evidence and be convinced against it - is not science". Really

says


alot about how many 'scientists'only masquerade when in truth they

are


nothing but pseudoscientists.








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Usenet is filled with abusive and obsessive-compulsive-sociopathic
personality disorder sufferers which makes it all the more easily
ignored, dismissed and ridiculed.

I call you a jerk cause that it what you are...

Really MS you can do better than that. That is strictly 12 year old logic.
Wait that is insulting 12 year olds.

BP

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
ers.com...
No, I call people like you sociopaths because that is what you are.

BP wrote:

Not only that Wally, he calls everyone else a sociopath. I kind of find
it
amusing.

Bohdan P

"Wally Anglesea" wrote in
message
...

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
et.cable.rogers.com...

Do your own research.


BP: Note Mad Scientist. When called to present evidence to back up his
assertions, he backpeddals, or gives you kook sites.
That's why he's a kook.




BP wrote:


Alright, maddie...I'll bite... Who the F is NARCAP.. I've been in
aviation
for most of my life and never heard of NARCAP. Plus bring me a pilot

that

has seen a UFO, and you'll win the prize. How about this...moron. If

a

post falls in an empty ng...is it heard? I worked in intelligence in

the

AF
and can;'t figure out half of the garbage you are spewing. Is life

that

hard?

Twinning was a MAJOR General in 1947.

Not to mention the rest of this offers no proof per se... rather
conjecture.
Rather old reading.

BP



In a 1952 classified report for the Air Technical Intelligence
Center
(ATIC) at Wright Patterson Air
Force Base, Hynek recommended that the UFO question be given "the
status
of a scientific problem,"
freeing the scientists from the restraints of secrecy which confuse

the

public. "The number of truly
puzzling incidents is now impressive," he reported. "The first
effort
should be to determine with great
accuracy what the phenomena to be explained really are and to

establish

their reality beyond all
question."16"

"The testimony of Dr. James E. McDonald, senior physicist of the
Institute of Atmospheric Physics and
Professor of Meteorology at the University of Arizona, was the most
extensive. A respected authority
and leader in the field of atmospheric physics, McDonald had
authored
highly technical papers for
professional journals. He spent two years examining formerly

classified

official file material and radar
tracking data on UFOs; interviewing several hundred witnesses; and
conducting in-depth case
investigations, details of which were provided to the Committee."

"McDonald told the Committee that no other problem within their
jurisdiction compared to this one.
"The scientific community, not only in this country but throughout

the

world, has been casually
ignoring as nonsense a matter of extraordinary scientific

importance."

McDonald indicated that he
leaned towards the extraterrestrial hypothesis as an explanation,
due
to
"a process of elimination of
other alternative hypotheses, not by arguments based on what I
could
call 'irrefutable proof.'" 24"

"Dr. Bernard Haisch, Director of the California Institute for
Physics
and Astrophysics and author of
over a hundred published papers, agrees. "I propose that true
skepticism
is called for today: neither the
gullible acceptance of true belief nor the closed-minded rejection
of
the scoffer masquerading as the
skeptic." Haisch was the editor of the JSE for twelve years. "Any
scientist who has not read a few
serious books and articles presenting actual UFO evidence should
out

of

intellectual honesty refrain

from making scientific pronouncements," he says. "To look at the


evidence and go away unconvinced
is one thing. To not look at the evidence and be convinced against
it
nonetheless is another. That is not
science. Do your homework!"84"

--

I really like this last quote where Dr. Bernard Haisch says, "to
look
at
the evidence and be convinced against it - is not science". Really

says

alot about how many 'scientists'only masquerade when in truth they

are

nothing but pseudoscientists.

You are an idiot BP. This is not an insult to you by the way, just a
simple statement of fact.

BP wrote:

I have been trying to do a statistical model of his posts versus facts and
it's funny what I keep finding. Because he folds after the first round of
challenges the model goes to zero very quickly. In fact, I seem to be
coming up with a number close to infinity.

MS, can't you hang on past one round of critiques. That would present more
of a challenge and would allow me to tweak some numbers in your direction.
No integrity.

BP



--
Usenet is filled with abusive and obsessive-compulsive-sociopathic
personality disorder sufferers which makes it all the more easily
ignored, dismissed and ridiculed.

I have been trying to do a statistical model of his posts versus facts and
it's funny what I keep finding. Because he folds after the first round of
challenges the model goes to zero very quickly. In fact, I seem to be
coming up with a number close to infinity.

MS, can't you hang on past one round of critiques. That would present more
of a challenge and would allow me to tweak some numbers in your direction.
No integrity.

BP

You are an idiot, get used to it.

BP wrote:

I am still waiting for you to provide one single authentic UFO picture
or video, otherwise anything you say about the subject of Ufology is
nothing but quackery and pseudoscience. The same applies to
badastronomy.com and all the astronomy magazines in existence and all
the pronouncements by astronomers on the subject - unless they can show
a real bona fide UFO picture/video or case for the record - they are
nothing but wannabe Ufologists.


Pay attention fellow Astronomers, Physicists, and Astrophysicists. Here is
the goal shot.

MS, that is precisely the logic that the holocaust deniers use. "Give me
one piece of evidence that this did/did not occur." Evidence is one in
many. You cannot simply prove something with one piece of evidence. In the
case of the holocaust deniers, they narrow it down to one piece of "Physical
Evidence." How do you feel to be in league with them.

Read Michael Shermer's book "Why People Believe Weird Things." Hell, I'll
buy it for you and have it sent post to your house.

BP



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I am still waiting for you to provide one single authentic UFO picture
or video, otherwise anything you say about the subject of Ufology is
nothing but quackery and pseudoscience. The same applies to
badastronomy.com and all the astronomy magazines in existence and all
the pronouncements by astronomers on the subject - unless they can show
a real bona fide UFO picture/video or case for the record - they are
nothing but wannabe Ufologists.

Pay attention fellow Astronomers, Physicists, and Astrophysicists. Here is
the goal shot.

MS, that is precisely the logic that the holocaust deniers use. "Give me
one piece of evidence that this did/did not occur." Evidence is one in
many. You cannot simply prove something with one piece of evidence. In the
case of the holocaust deniers, they narrow it down to one piece of "Physical
Evidence." How do you feel to be in league with them.

Read Michael Shermer's book "Why People Believe Weird Things." Hell, I'll
buy it for you and have it sent post to your house.

BP

What do you think Wally? He wants us to turn the fight to each other. We
could have some competetive fun figuring out the flaws in his logic. Divide
and conquer is what he is thinking. What a jerk. Aww screw it.

If the astros are united...we will never be divided!
Up yours MS!
If the astros are united...we will never be divided!
Up yours MS!
If the astros are united...we will never be divided!
If the astros are united...we will never be divided!

We can become Astronomy Hooigans.
BP


"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. cable.rogers.com...
BP jumps on the anti-social psychopathological bandwagon. Of all his
posts, I think he contributed even less to scientific discussion of
astronomy than Wally. Maybe he is competing for for the number one
Usenet sociopath spot with him.

BP wrote:

He must have these insults in his cut and paste menu.
BP

"Jay Windley" wrote in message
...

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
. net.cable.rogers.com...
|
| Whatever you say coward hiding behind your fake name

...says the person who posts from a fake address using a pseudonym.

| Sociopaths like you give new meaning to the terms 'mass
| extinction event'.

Hey, no fair! That's the insult you used for me. I demand that you

insult

only me in that fashion.

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|
The universe is not required to conform | Jay Windley
to the expectations of the ignorant. | webmaster @ clavius.org





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Usenet is filled with abusive and obsessive-compulsive-sociopathic
personality disorder sufferers which makes it all the more easily
ignored, dismissed and ridiculed.

Maybe he is cover up a manhood problem. What's the matter MS can't get your
telescope to point at zenith??? Still drooping below the horizon?

BP

"Paul Lawler" wrote in message
. 170.81...
"BP" wrote in
:

Not only that Wally, he calls everyone else a sociopath. I kind of
find it amusing.

Yes, M.S. has degrees in both psychology and parapsychology and has tested
all of us extensively with his little "psyche" experiments and has been
able to prove conclusively that everyone posting on alt.astronomy (except
himself) is a certified sociopath. He claims that he is here to dialoge
with the "real men" (perhaps he is also a misogynist?) who discuss "real
ideas" but so far he has been unable to come up with a single person who
fits his description of one he deems worthy of an epithet other than
"sociopath."

God, you are right. I am an idiot.

Wally, Paul help...What the heck am I gonna do? Does this ruin my dream of
the PhD at Cal Tech. Man, I had no idea I was ...sniff, sniff stupid. Why
me? Why? That dashes my hopes of being a professor. What would the kids
think of me if they new I was stupid?

BP

"Mad Scientist" wrote in message
t.cable.rogers.com...
You are an idiot BP. This is not an insult to you by the way, just a
simple statement of fact.

BP wrote:

I have been trying to do a statistical model of his posts versus facts
and
it's funny what I keep finding. Because he folds after the first round
of
challenges the model goes to zero very quickly. In fact, I seem to be
coming up with a number close to infinity.

MS, can't you hang on past one round of critiques. That would present
more
of a challenge and would allow me to tweak some numbers in your
direction.
No integrity.

BP



--
Usenet is filled with abusive and obsessive-compulsive-sociopathic
personality disorder sufferers which makes it all the more easily
ignored, dismissed and ridiculed.

STICK TO THE ARGUMENT YOU SIMPLISTIC SOD!

BP
You are an idiot, get used to it.

BP wrote:

I am still waiting for you to provide one single authentic UFO picture
or video, otherwise anything you say about the subject of Ufology is
nothing but quackery and pseudoscience. The same applies to
badastronomy.com and all the astronomy magazines in existence and all
the pronouncements by astronomers on the subject - unless they can show
a real bona fide UFO picture/video or case for the record - they are
nothing but wannabe Ufologists.


Pay attention fellow Astronomers, Physicists, and Astrophysicists. Here
is
the goal shot.

MS, that is precisely the logic that the holocaust deniers use. "Give
me
one piece of evidence that this did/did not occur." Evidence is one in
many. You cannot simply prove something with one piece of evidence. In
the
case of the holocaust deniers, they narrow it down to one piece of
"Physical
Evidence." How do you feel to be in league with them.

Read Michael Shermer's book "Why People Believe Weird Things." Hell,
I'll
buy it for you and have it sent post to your house.

BP



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