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bob haller wrote:


caller ID can easily display whatever the caller wants, although I have never wanted to do such a thing


Well, no, it can't. And I wish you luck spoofing ANI, which I believe
is a crime.

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CALLER ID can easily be spoffed, as anyone who gets tele marketing calls can attest.

There was and probably is a web site where for a couple bucks you can spoof caller ID. Had a buddy call me, the system said I called myself..

I dont knnow if ANI can be spoofed, and really it doesnt matter.

On Monday, June 30, 2014 10:56:02 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:



bob haller wrote:





caller ID can easily display whatever the caller wants, although I have never wanted to do such a thing





Well, no, it can't. And I wish you luck spoofing ANI, which I believe

is a crime.



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CALLER ID can easily be spoffed, as anyone who gets tele marketing calls can attest.



There was and probably is a web site where for a couple bucks you can spoof caller ID. Had a buddy call me, the system said I called myself..





So you claim, but past experience with you indicates that most of what

you claim to remember or have seen just turns out to be rather

dubious.



Hint: Caller ID spoofing is generally illegal in the United States.





I dont knnow if ANI can be spoofed, and really it doesnt matter.





It does if you're calling me. You'd be dialing into a corporate

switchboard that receives ANI info.



--

"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar

territory."

--G. Behn

most business phone systems come with spoffing ability built in.

its commonly used by bill collectors to try and get the person being called to pick up the phone....

In article ,
says...

bob haller wrote:

CALLER ID can easily be spoffed, as anyone who gets tele marketing calls can attest.

There was and probably is a web site where for a couple bucks you can spoof caller ID. Had a buddy call me, the system said I called myself..


So you claim, but past experience with you indicates that most of what
you claim to remember or have seen just turns out to be rather
dubious.

Hint: Caller ID spoofing is generally illegal in the United States.

Bob is right when he says that telemarketers do this on a regular basis.
This is one of those rare occurrences where the broken clock is showing
the right time.

I get spoofed caller ID numbers several times a week from some shady
companies trying to convince me I can "lower my interest rate on my
credit cards". They've recently started spoofing the caller ID number
to look like it's local. Specifically, only the last two digits are
different than my own, so it looks like one of my neighbors is calling
me. I'm hesitant to block these numbers in case someone local does try
to contact me for a legitimate reason (e.g. "I think I just found your
dog, because I called the phone number on her dog tag.").

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer

On Tuesday, July 1, 2014 8:11:29 AM UTC-4, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,

says...



bob haller wrote:



CALLER ID can easily be spoffed, as anyone who gets tele marketing calls can attest.



There was and probably is a web site where for a couple bucks you can spoof caller ID. Had a buddy call me, the system said I called myself..





So you claim, but past experience with you indicates that most of what

you claim to remember or have seen just turns out to be rather

dubious.



Hint: Caller ID spoofing is generally illegal in the United States.



Bob is right when he says that telemarketers do this on a regular basis.

This is one of those rare occurrences where the broken clock is showing

the right time.



I get spoofed caller ID numbers several times a week from some shady

companies trying to convince me I can "lower my interest rate on my

credit cards". They've recently started spoofing the caller ID number

to look like it's local. Specifically, only the last two digits are

different than my own, so it looks like one of my neighbors is calling

me. I'm hesitant to block these numbers in case someone local does try

to contact me for a legitimate reason (e.g. "I think I just found your

dog, because I called the phone number on her dog tag.").



Jeff

https://www.spoofcard.com/

so much for freds comment that spoofing caller ID is illegal....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing

On Sunday, July 6, 2014 3:01:13 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
William Mook wrote:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing



"Caller ID spoofing is generally illegal in the United States. The

relevant federal statute, the Truth in Caller ID Act of 2009, does

make exceptions for certain law-enforcement purposes. Callers are also

still allowed to preserve their anonymity by choosing to block all

outgoing caller ID information on their phone lines."



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well the websites certinally are not hiding the service. the law must not be followed closely

On Sunday, July 6, 2014 12:07:28 PM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:



On Sunday, July 6, 2014 3:01:13 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:

William Mook wrote:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing



"Caller ID spoofing is generally illegal in the United States. The

relevant federal statute, the Truth in Caller ID Act of 2009, does

make exceptions for certain law-enforcement purposes. Callers are also

still allowed to preserve their anonymity by choosing to block all

outgoing caller ID information on their phone lines."





well the websites certinally are not hiding the service. the law must not be followed closely





Why don't you try breaking the law and see, Bobbert? I suppose that a

website pointing out what will kill human beings means that homicide

law "must not be followed closely", too, if your name happens to be

Bobbert...



--

"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar

territory."

--G. Behn

Well in the caller ID spoof sites do it for you for a small fee.

Fred why dont you put up a site like that and see how long it takes for you to get arrested

A murder anyone for 5 bucks.........

On Monday, July 7, 2014 4:07:28 AM UTC+12, Fred J. McCall wrote:
bob haller wrote:



On Sunday, July 6, 2014 3:01:13 AM UTC-4, Fred J. McCall wrote:

William Mook wrote:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caller_ID_spoofing



"Caller ID spoofing is generally illegal in the United States. The

relevant federal statute, the Truth in Caller ID Act of 2009, does

make exceptions for certain law-enforcement purposes. Callers are also

still allowed to preserve their anonymity by choosing to block all

outgoing caller ID information on their phone lines."





well the websites certinally are not hiding the service. the law must not be followed closely





Why don't you try breaking the law and see, Bobbert? I suppose that a

website pointing out what will kill human beings means that homicide

law "must not be followed closely", too, if your name happens to be

Bobbert...



--

"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar

territory."

--G. Behn


The rate of intentional homicides is 7.6 per 100,000 -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._homicide_rate

So, this is a total 541,120 intentional homicides per year at present.

This is less than half the death rate due to road traffic which is 18.0 per 100,000 -1,281,600 traffic related deaths per year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate

Hey just this moment I got a call from card services. Caller ID NEVER shows their name and the caller ID phone number appears random and not a working number...

they drone on about calling them press ??? to get no futher calls from them.

doing anything appears to increase the number of calls

So Fred, where are the links about proscuetion?

Plus it appears that phone solicitors are exempt. They are just very annoying

In article ,
says...

Hey just this moment I got a call from card services. Caller ID NEVER shows their name and the caller ID phone number appears random and not a working number...

they drone on about calling them press ??? to get no futher calls from them.

doing anything appears to increase the number of calls

So Fred, where are the links about proscuetion?

Plus it appears that phone solicitors are exempt. They are just very annoying

No, they're not exempt, they're not following the law. "card services"
is the spam call I get most often. I don't even bother trying to get
them to put me on their "do not call" list since it's obvious they're
not following the law in the first place.

Jeff
--
"the perennial claim that hypersonic airbreathing propulsion would
magically make space launch cheaper is nonsense -- LOX is much cheaper
than advanced airbreathing engines, and so are the tanks to put it in
and the extra thrust to carry it." - Henry Spencer