worst space movie?

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Doug... wrote:

Yeah, but the sequence on the "Russian Space Station" was hysterical.

"THIS..." bangs hard on a pipe with a spanner "IS HOW YOU MAKE THINGS
WORK..." bangs harder "ON RUSSIAN SPACE STATION!!!" bangs hard enough to
split the pipe...



And probably fairly close to reality if Mir was any indication. Remember
how they bent the exterior airlock hatch, and held it in place with
C-clamps from then on?

Yep -- scares me to think about it, even now. That just seems like
carelessness to a thoughtless degree, in that environment.

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"Reed Snellenberger"

screwed-up film processing ....they ended up calling it ... "Cinemagic"

Ouch.

Yeah, it was really nasty. Definitely one of the worst.

Of course, there *is* always "Plan Nine from Outer Space"... one could
make an argument that it is not only the worst science fiction film ever
made, it is the worst film ever made, period.

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"Gordon Davie"
Imaginary dialogue, too. They actually *changed* Charlie Duke's response to
the "Tranquillity Base" call to something like "We're all going blue in the
face here!" For God's sake, why?

For the same reason they titled Culp's TV movie "Houston we've got a problem."

If you use the same dialogue as the real event, you are shooting a documentary,
which makes it tougher to include scenes with astronaut's wives smoking crack,
etc etc.or whatever dramatic elements they want to use to increase the
entertainment value.

And yet, Tom Hanks' "From the Earth to the Moon" used an awful lot of the
real dialogue. Down to using the acronyms properly and not "dumbing
down" the exchanges to explain what the acronyms meant. You got it from
context if you didn't know it already. And I found that whole miniseries
to be extraordinarily entertaining. Apparently, enough other people did
that it gets re-run on the various HBO channels on a fairly regular
basis.

A good example of a *very* effective scene from the miniseries that is
taken almost verbatim from the cockpit recordings was Earthrise scene
from the Apollo 8 episode, "1968." They showed it happening on an orbit
some time into the lunar orbital phase of the mission, and the dialogue,
including Anders' wry comment to Lovell (who was worried they weren't
going to get a good picture of it), "It'll come up again, I think..." was
taken verbatim from the onboard recordings. And that was a truly
effective scene, *very* entertaining.

I always thought that it took a lot of courage for Hanks and his co-
producers to use as much of the actual dialogue as they did. I
understood the edits they *did* make, but to leave out the technical
minutae, or dumb it down by including wordy and needless explanations of
the actual dialogue, would have reduced the value of the miniseries for
me.

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:52:50 -0500, Pat Flannery
wrote:

OM wrote:

...Hey, I *liked* this movie! The theme song was right up there with
the one for the original "Blob" movie!

It was a Italian/Japanese coproducton IIRC- they got the Italian women
to wear those spacesuits with the heart-shapped window over their
cleavage (this would lead to a really interesting tanning effect;
particularly if the window wasn't UV proof) and then there was that
song- "Green Slime! Growing, growing....Green Slime!"

....The song was a classic! Too bad it apparently never was released
along with the soundtrack for that film. Still, it was a bit too good
to be bad when you get down to it. Japanese styling with an Italian
cinematographic look. Probably why, according to the IMDB, this film
had a lot of odd titles:

After the Destruction of Space Station Gamma: Big Military Operation
(1968)
Battle Beyond the Stars (1968)
Battle of Space Station Gamma, The (1968)
Death and the Green Slime (1968)
Fango verde, Il (1968) (Italy)
Gamma #3 Big Military Space Operation (1968)
Gamma sango uchu daisakusen (1968) (Japan)

....Wonder if Roger Corman knew about the 2nd one :-)


OM

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 21:45:16 GMT, Brian Thorn
wrote:

Its actually the other way around. "Deep Impact" was originally
intended to be a medium-budget film simply about the people on Earth
dealing with their impending doom. (Hence the title, and yes, that
sounds extraordinarily depressing.) It was only after "Armageddon" was
announced that Paramount/Dreamworks added on the space adventure (and
brought in Robert Duvall... the best thing in the movie) and all the
other special effects. They probably did intend to show a big impact
in New York or wherever. But when the space adventure was added, they
could no longer afford Washington getting wiped out, the ICBM strike,
etc.

....This one's actually news to me. Can you cite source on this one, as
I'd like to get a bit more detail.

OM

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 20:31:12 +0100, Jonathan Silverlight
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I wonder if she was influenced by the hash "Meteor" made of this scene.
In fact, "Meteor" is a good candidate for worst space film, or indeed a
place in the top 10 worst films.

....Oh yeah. One of the few SF films where you can actually see the
*seams* on the missiles where the two halves were glued together -
didn't the SFX team ever hear of putty & sanding?. And then there's
the WTC getting blasted apart - toothpicks dumped in a gasoline bomb,
of all things!

....Only good thing about the film was Brian Keith, who most people
don't realize was a *very* fluent Russian speaker. He also got cast in
that Rock Hudson miniseries "World War III" as the Soviet Premier, and
reportedly was considered for the role of Moseivitch in "2010". Oddly,
Dana Elcar got the role even though he was nowhere near as good with
his Russian, only his accent :-P

Did they shoot the scenes, or shoot and cut as James Cameron seems to
do? Perhaps "Deep Impact: The Director's Cut" will premiere on July 4,
2005, if that mission is still on target.

....Nope. Scenes were never shot. Scripted, but never shot.

OM

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:19:49 -0500, "Hairball"
wrote:

My nominee for worst space film would be uh "Salvage One" with Andy Griffith.
The flick was aimed at some hillbilly demographic with its "Look mah they left
some copper wire on that there moon thing." A foul film on multiple levels.

....Quite a few people would disagree with you around here, as there's
this theory it was the inspiration for the X-Prize :-P


OM

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:59:49 GMT, Doug... wrote:

Of course, there *is* always "Plan Nine from Outer Space"... one could
make an argument that it is not only the worst science fiction film ever
made, it is the worst film ever made, period.

....You have to watch "Ed Wood" to appreciate "Plan 9" properly. Johnny
Depp aside, it explains much about the movie, and explains why Bela
Lugosi only really appears in the first few minutes of the film.

OM

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 01:28:03 -0500, "Hairball"
wrote:

You can tell by looking at Farah Fawcett that she has small breasts.....compare
with Raquel Welch who is actually attractive.

....Make that *still* actually attractive.

OM

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On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 00:19:49 -0500, "Hairball"
wrote:

Its actually the other way around. "Deep Impact" was originally
intended to be a medium-budget film simply about the people on Earth
dealing with their impending doom.

Deep Impact was a suck film that scored big sales on Armageddon's coat-tails.

"Deep Impact" was announced a year before and hit theaters two months
before "Armageddon".

The middle half of the film is a bunch of cars in a traffic jam. (The traffic
jam scene is long.....sorta like......filler?) The one special effect in Deep
Impact is a large wave of water. For 6 bucks you get a 15 second animation. At
least Armageddon had a good 30 seconds of the meteors in the opening scene.

I suspect it has been a long time since you've seen "Deep Impact".

If Deep Impact was medium budget......then it was on the low side of medium.
Sales were like $175 million.......they hit the jackpot.

It was *originally* medium budget. It grew after "Armageddon" was
announced.

My nominee for worst space film would be uh "Salvage One" with Andy Griffith.
The flick was aimed at some hillbilly demographic with its "Look mah they left
some copper wire on that there moon thing." A foul film on multiple levels.

I enjoyed it. Silly, yes, but far from dreck like "Starflight".

Brian