Antarctica Ice Gaining Mass

From World Climate Report
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming-
debate-upside-down-antarctic-update/

----Is Antarctica warming and melting away? If you consult the latest
report of the United Nations=3F Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC), you would find statements on the subject in the summary
including =3FAntarctic sea ice extent continues to show inter-annual
variability and localized changes but no statistically significant
average trends, consistent with the lack of warming reflected in
atmospheric temperatures averaged across the region=3F and =3FCurrent global
model studies project that the Antarctic ice sheet will remain too cold
for widespread surface melting and is expected to gain in mass due to
increased snowfall.=3F Amazing =3F one would never suspect such conclusions
given a cover story in National Geographic titled =3FTHE BIG THAW.=3F ----

Amazing considering considering climatehotmap.org/antarctica.html
continues to state that Antarctica is melting away "Warming 5 times
global average" and that the "Larsen A ice shelf disintegrated"!! What a
joke. If they can't even figure out what is happening under their noses
how can they predict what will happen tomorroww?

Found using research at Global Warming Hoax
http://www.GlobalWarmingHoax.com

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From World Climate Report
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming-
debate-upside-down-antarctic-update/

----Is Antarctica warming and melting away? If you consult the latest
report of the United Nations=3F Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC), you would find statements on the subject in the summary
including =3FAntarctic sea ice extent continues to show inter-annual
variability and localized changes but no statistically significant
average trends, consistent with the lack of warming reflected in
atmospheric temperatures averaged across the region=3F and =3FCurrent
global
model studies project that the Antarctic ice sheet will remain too cold
for widespread surface melting and is expected to gain in mass due to
increased snowfall.=3F Amazing =3F one would never suspect such
conclusions
given a cover story in National Geographic titled =3FTHE BIG THAW.=3F ----

You omitted the following. Why?

"Significant climate changes observed in the Antarctic include the increase
in surface air temperature (SAT). SAT over the Antarctic as a whole has
increased by 0.5°C in the last 50 yr, which appears to be part of a global
SAT warming trend in recent years." Further, we learn that "Except for some
areas of the Atlantic and Indian sectors where SAT has decreased, a
significant increase in SAT has occurred in most of the Southern Ocean
according to the reanalysis data. Since 1979 the increase in SAT is 0.027°C
yr-1 over the ice-covered areas of the Southern Ocean. In conjunction with
an increase in SAT is an increase in the NCEP-NCAR reanalysis surface
downward longwave radiation (SDLR) and precipitation." According to the data
analyzed by Zhang, Antarctica has warmed, precipitation has increased, and
the downward longwave (infrared) energy has increased ."


Amazing considering considering climatehotmap.org/antarctica.html
continues to state that Antarctica is melting away "Warming 5 times
global average" and that the "Larsen A ice shelf disintegrated"!! What a
joke. If they can't even figure out what is happening under their noses
how can they predict what will happen tomorroww?

Since that appears to be what's happening, it's hard to get what your
problem is.


Found using research at Global Warming Hoax
http://www.GlobalWarmingHoax.com

OOPS - there's your problem. roflmao

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From World Climate Report
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming-
debate-upside-down-antarctic-update/

----Is Antarctica warming and melting away? If you consult the latest
report of the United Nations=3F Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC), you would find statements on the subject in the summary
including =3FAntarctic sea ice extent continues to show inter-annual
variability and localized changes but no statistically significant
average trends, consistent with the lack of warming reflected in
atmospheric temperatures averaged across the region=3F and =3FCurrent
global
model studies project that the Antarctic ice sheet will remain too cold
for widespread surface melting and is expected to gain in mass due to
increased snowfall.=3F Amazing =3F one would never suspect such
conclusions
given a cover story in National Geographic titled =3FTHE BIG THAW.=3F ----

You omitted the following. Why?

"Significant climate changes observed in the Antarctic include the increase
in surface air temperature (SAT). SAT over the Antarctic as a whole has
increased by 0.5°C in the last 50 yr, which appears to be part of a global
SAT warming trend in recent years." Further, we learn that "Except for some
areas of the Atlantic and Indian sectors where SAT has decreased, a
significant increase in SAT has occurred in most of the Southern Ocean
according to the reanalysis data. Since 1979 the increase in SAT is 0.027°C
yr-1 over the ice-covered areas of the Southern Ocean. In conjunction with
an increase in SAT is an increase in the NCEP-NCAR reanalysis surface
downward longwave radiation (SDLR) and precipitation." According to the data
analyzed by Zhang, Antarctica has warmed, precipitation has increased, and
the downward longwave (infrared) energy has increased ."


Amazing considering considering climatehotmap.org/antarctica.html
continues to state that Antarctica is melting away "Warming 5 times
global average" and that the "Larsen A ice shelf disintegrated"!! What a
joke. If they can't even figure out what is happening under their noses
how can they predict what will happen tomorroww?

Since that appears to be what's happening, it's hard to get what your
problem is.


Found using research at Global Warming Hoax
http://www.GlobalWarmingHoax.com

"0.5°C in the last 50 yr" is well within standard deviation. In
Greenland, for example, it was lush with plant and insects just 500,000
years ago:

"Living in the trees and on the forest floor was a wide variety of
insect life including beetles, flies, spiders, butterflies and moths."

"They found the temperature varied widely, by as much as 15 C (27 F)
over the 800,000 years"

See http://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php?extend.18

So no I don't think there is any problem at all.

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:34:35 -0500, wrote:

You omitted the following. Why?

"Significant climate changes observed in the Antarctic include the increase
in surface air temperature (SAT). SAT over the Antarctic as a whole has
increased by 0.5°C in the last 50 yr, which appears to be part of a global
SAT warming trend in recent years." Further, we learn that "Except for some
areas of the Atlantic and Indian sectors where SAT has decreased, a
significant increase in SAT has occurred in most of the Southern Ocean
according to the reanalysis data. Since 1979 the increase in SAT is 0.027°C
yr-1 over the ice-covered areas of the Southern Ocean. In conjunction with
an increase in SAT is an increase in the NCEP-NCAR reanalysis surface
downward longwave radiation (SDLR) and precipitation." According to the data
analyzed by Zhang, Antarctica has warmed, precipitation has increased, and
the downward longwave (infrared) energy has increased ."

..........
So no I don't think there is any problem at all.

I think the "scientist" that can say with confidence that he
could measure 0.5 degrees C difference over 50 years should be given a
medal, or committed.

On Jul 19, 9:06 pm, Whata Fool wrote:
I think the "scientist" that can say with confidence that he
could measure 0.5 degrees C difference over 50 years should be given a
medal, or committed.-

We can't take the chance.
We must hand over the economy to the socialist for the sake of
humanity...fuzzy animals and the penguins.
Ideally socialists based in the EU as part of a new world
government....national sovereignty is a backward,racist, fascistic
idea.

There should be a new world tax. Money I earn should be taken and
distributed to African tribeman so that they may enjoy a Western
standard of living and we may enjoy an African standard of living.
This will help right historical social injustices and increase our
cultural sensitivities.

"GatherNoMoss" wrote
We can't take the chance.
We must hand over the economy to the socialist for the sake of
humanity...fuzzy animals and the penguins.

We already control the global economy you Ignorant ****.

New Scientist Environment Blog Wednesday, April 25, 2007

A new Arctic island is born into our warming world

As a poster-child for climate change, it's probably as good as it gets. A
previously unknown island has emerged from beneath melted ice off the east
coast
of Greenland.

We knew the land was there, but until Arctic explorer Dennis Schmitt, from
California, spotted a thawed strait on an expedition in summer 2005, no-one
had
realised that the island was not connected to the mainland. Schmitt has
named
the new island Uunartoq Qeqertoq, which means "the warming island".

The New York Times first brought Schmitt's story to a wider audience in
January,
and The Independent, a UK newspaper, reported the discovery on Tuesday. You
can
watch a short documentary film about Schmitt and the island here.

I spoke to Schmitt yesterday, and he had more stories to tell me than I
could
fit in this blog post. Schmitt speaks the Inuit language and has spent much
of
his life in the icy north, whether on the back of a dogsled or sailing an
icebreaker boat.

In the 1990s he found a rocky islet in the far north above Greenland,
emerging
from the sea "like a great rock whale". He tried to persuade the Danish
government to recognise the find as the most northerly piece of land on
earth -
officially this point is an island called Kaffeklubben - but unfortunately
failed, because the islet turned out to be a transitory mound of glacial
moraine.

He is clearly passionate about his most recent discovery and the effects of
global warming. "It's a stunningly beautiful island with tooth-like peaks,"
he
says. "This island is probably the world's most spectacular example of
climate
change."

Not everyone agrees with this latter assessment of course. Some say we
should be
more worried about inhabited islands disappearing due to sea-level rise than
remote reaches of the Arctic. Rita Gardner, director of the UK's Royal
Geographical Society points out that Pacific islands such as Kiribati and
the
Marshall islands could disappear altogether by 2100 due to climate change.
"We
could lose more islands than we discover," she says.

Still, that shouldn't diminish Schmitt's find. I can't help but admire his
attitude to old-school exploration. He is now planning more expeditions
further
north of the region where he spotted Warming Island, and expects more land
to
emerge as the icecap retreats. In a world when we can see every acre of the
earth's surface from a satellite, Schmitt's kind is a dying breed.

On Jul 18, 8:34 pm, wrote:
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From World Climate Report
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming-
debate-upside-down-antarctic-update/

----Is Antarctica warming and melting away? If you consult the latest
report of the United Nations=3F Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC), you would find statements on the subject in the summary
including =3FAntarctic sea ice extent continues to show inter-annual
variability and localized changes but no statistically significant
average trends, consistent with the lack of warming reflected in
atmospheric temperatures averaged across the region=3F and =3FCurrent
global
model studies project that the Antarctic ice sheet will remain too cold
for widespread surface melting and is expected to gain in mass due to
increased snowfall.=3F Amazing =3F one would never suspect such
conclusions
given a cover story in National Geographic titled =3FTHE BIG THAW.=3F ----

You omitted the following. Why?

"Significant climate changes observed in the Antarctic include the increase
in surface air temperature (SAT). SAT over the Antarctic as a whole has
increased by 0.5°C in the last 50 yr, which appears to be part of a global
SAT warming trend in recent years." Further, we learn that "Except for some
areas of the Atlantic and Indian sectors where SAT has decreased, a
significant increase in SAT has occurred in most of the Southern Ocean
according to the reanalysis data. Since 1979 the increase in SAT is 0.027°C
yr-1 over the ice-covered areas of the Southern Ocean. In conjunction with
an increase in SAT is an increase in the NCEP-NCAR reanalysis surface
downward longwave radiation (SDLR) and precipitation." According to the data
analyzed by Zhang, Antarctica has warmed, precipitation has increased, and
the downward longwave (infrared) energy has increased ."

Amazing considering considering climatehotmap.org/antarctica.html
continues to state that Antarctica is melting away "Warming 5 times
global average" and that the "Larsen A ice shelf disintegrated"!! What a
joke. If they can't even figure out what is happening under their noses
how can they predict what will happen tomorroww?

Since that appears to be what's happening, it's hard to get what your
problem is.

Found using research at Global Warming Hoax
http://www.GlobalWarmingHoax.com

"0.5°C in the last 50 yr" is well within standard deviation. In
Greenland, for example, it was lush with plant and insects just 500,000
years ago:

"Living in the trees and on the forest floor was a wide variety of
insect life including beetles, flies, spiders, butterflies and moths."

"They found the temperature varied widely, by as much as 15 C (27 F)
over the 800,000 years"

Seehttp://www.globalwarminghoax.com/news.php?extend.18

So no I don't think there is any problem at all.- Hide quoted text -

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Before the very last ice age this planet will ever see, Earth had
hardly any seasonal tilt, and thus offered pretty much a monoseason to
deal with, as we passed nearby certain other stars as having
previously thawed us out from time to time.
- Brad Guth

Before the very last ice age this planet will ever see, Earth had
hardly any seasonal tilt, and thus offered pretty much a monoseason to
deal with, as we passed nearby certain other stars as having
previously thawed us out from time to time.


So are you saying we are in a binary star system? Or perhaps even a
trinary? Which I understand is more the norm than the exception for
our type of Sun.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...g/topics?hl=en

On Jul 19, 5:15 pm, wrote:
Before the very last ice age this planet will ever see, Earth had
hardly any seasonal tilt, and thus offered pretty much a monoseason to
deal with, as we passed nearby certain other stars as having
previously thawed us out from time to time.

So are you saying we are in a binary star system? Or perhaps even a
trinary? Which I understand is more the norm than the exception for
our type of Sun.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...g/topics?hl=en

If you'd care to include our sun as any part of the Sirius star
system, then it's a trinary consideration.

Actually, I was thinking along the somewhat fuzzy line, of where the
likes of Venus and our moon were actually derived from that nearby
Sirius star/solar system, such as after their having survived being
pushed out by way of Sirius B having gone through its red giant phase.

How's that?
- Brad Guth

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From World Climate Report
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in...lobal-warming-
debate-upside-down-antarctic-update/

----Is Antarctica warming and melting away? If you consult the latest
report of the United Nations=3F Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
(IPCC), you would find statements on the subject in the summary
including =3FAntarctic sea ice extent continues to show inter-annual
variability and localized changes but no statistically significant
average trends, consistent with the lack of warming reflected in
atmospheric temperatures averaged across the region=3F and =3FCurrent
global
model studies project that the Antarctic ice sheet will remain too cold
for widespread surface melting and is expected to gain in mass due to
increased snowfall.=3F Amazing =3F one would never suspect such
conclusions
given a cover story in National Geographic titled =3FTHE BIG THAW.=3F ----

You omitted the following. Why?

"Significant climate changes observed in the Antarctic include the increase
in surface air temperature (SAT). SAT over the Antarctic as a whole has
increased by 0.5°C in the last 50 yr, which appears to be part of a global
SAT warming trend in recent years." Further, we learn that "Except for some
areas of the Atlantic and Indian sectors where SAT has decreased, a
significant increase in SAT has occurred in most of the Southern Ocean
according to the reanalysis data. Since 1979 the increase in SAT is 0.027°C
yr-1 over the ice-covered areas of the Southern Ocean. In conjunction with
an increase in SAT is an increase in the NCEP-NCAR reanalysis surface
downward longwave radiation (SDLR) and precipitation." According to the data
analyzed by Zhang, Antarctica has warmed, precipitation has increased, and
the downward longwave (infrared) energy has increased ."

Amazing considering considering climatehotmap.org/antarctica.html
continues to state that Antarctica is melting away "Warming 5 times
global average" and that the "Larsen A ice shelf disintegrated"!! What a
joke. If they can't even figure out what is happening under their noses
how can they predict what will happen tomorroww?

Since that appears to be what's happening, it's hard to get what your
problem is.

Found using research at Global Warming Hoax
http://www.GlobalWarmingHoax.com

"0.5°C in the last 50 yr" is well within standard deviation.

The latest round of pro-pollution rubbish is gluing some math terms
together and magically making the warming disappear. You just
swallowed their rubbish.

In Greenland, for example, it was lush with plant and insects just 500,000
years ago:

"Living in the trees and on the forest floor was a wide variety of
insect life including beetles, flies, spiders, butterflies and moths."

"They found the temperature varied widely, by as much as 15 C (27 F)
over the 800,000 years"

Now that's funny! Completely irrelevant, distorted, and useless ...
but as much boost as a disney cartoon!

Treat yourself to some actual rundown on the issues. Your brain will
appreciate the exercise.

So no I don't think there is any problem at all.

Based on your single-source drive-by, colour me surprised.

.... temperature varied by as much as 15C over 800,000 years ... nancy,
u are the rock n roll of weather forecasts!