Buzz's Bridge

Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
A 60' horseshoe on the Hualapai Reservation isn't going to have
any impact on the place.



Just wait till the first earthquake; from that altitude and given its
ambient air drag, I'll bet it still could transfer a hell of a lot of
ergs on impact with the river.

Pat

Pat Flannery wrote:

:
:Just wait till the first earthquake; from that altitude and given its
:ambient air drag, I'll bet it still could transfer a hell of a lot of
:ergs on impact with the river.

It'd have to be a hell of an earthquake. The thing is designed to
withstand a magnitude 8.0 quake with an epicenter within 50 miles.

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On Mar 29, 10:34 pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote:
"Eric Chomko" wrote in message

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On Mar 26, 11:49 pm, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"

So in other words, not really what we were talking about.

Have you ever been to the Grand Canyon? I have 7 times. I have over 30
days inside the canyon alone and over 125 miles of hiking. I am going
back for an eight time this fall.

Yes, several times.

And between that, and simply looking at a map, one can realize the scale of
the place. A 60' horseshoe on the Hualapai Reservation isn't going to have
any impact on the place.

Probably no worse than other overlooks at GCNP.


The point is that things that occuured within the Grand Canyon before
it became a national park are considered relics of the canyon and that
includes any Indian pottery shards, arrowheads, etc., mining or
minor's equipment and even the old phone line to Phantom Ranch at the
botton even though it was there well after GC became a NP.

In other words, exactly what I said, human activity has been altering the
Grand Canyon for over 100 years.

Some can't be helped as we do want people to see it but in as close to
its natural state as possible.

So what's your point arguing with me when you support my contention.


I never claimed "do nothing" but I do support the notion of limited
use by permit, no wheels on the trails, hike out your own trash and no
gondolas, elevators, or any other man-made structrures that would mar
the landscape. If the indians want a skywalk , then let them have it.


So yes, GC is not exactly like it was 100 years ago, but the point is
to try and preserve it the best that we can.

And for better or for worse, the Hualapai have decided to change their
portion of it.

That is their right.

Given how much is protected by the GCNP, Lake Mead National Rec Area and
Glen Canyon Nationa Rec Area, I'm not too concerned about a 60' bridge
sticking out into it.

(oh and the National Forests around it too.)

And if you really want to preserve it, cut off road access to the South Rim
and do everything by electric tram, and keep people out of it.

Preserve it for our use.

You do realize the impact the hikers have on the existing trail systems,
right?

Only the lazy ones. Most backpackers with experience know how to
preserve mother nature.

Eric



Eric

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On Mar 21, 2:22 am, Pat Flannery wrote:
Snippage..
For starters, that transparent floor is mighty, mighty, thick.
Four inches of high strength glass according to the news tonight.
Snippage...
Pat


I wonder what that glass will look like in 5-10 years, all scratched
up from sand and grit attached to people's shoes.

Gene

Gene DiGennaro wrote:

I wonder what that glass will look like in 5-10 years, all scratched
up from sand and grit attached to people's shoes.


I think someone mentioned that you put on slippers when you go out in
the Skywalk.
If it were me, I'd lay thin sheets of transparent plastic over the glass
that could be easily and cheaply replaced if they got scratched.


Pat

Pat Flannery wrote:

I think someone mentioned that you put on slippers when you go out in
the Skywalk.
If it were me, I'd lay thin sheets of transparent plastic over the
glass that could be easily and cheaply replaced if they got scratched.

I should have seen where this is going...of course...Souvenir Skywalk
Indian Moccasins.
Made in China of course. :-D

Pat

Pat

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:45:39 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote:

I should have seen where this is going...of course...Souvenir Skywalk
Indian Moccasins. Made in China of course. :-D

....And all the beads they made by hand are nowadays made in Japan.

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OM wrote:
...And all the beads they made by hand are nowadays made in Japan.


Wait till you see this... they ran the first TV commercial for it
tonight: http://www.lakotaherbs.com/conditions/musclepain.html
"White Man pain in Indian back."
I particularly like the use of peppers as part of the remedy; we don't
have a native pepper within 500 miles of Lakota Territory. :-D
And what the **** is this about?: http://www.lakotaherbs.com/about.html
Lakota never heard of Cree, and if did, want to grind the little red
faces of Cree under proud Lakota moccasin, as
The-Sons-Of-The-Lying-Garter-Snake deserve. May mighty Tatonka make
buffalo pie on faces of Cree dead many times.

Pat

On Mar 31, 4:39 pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Gene DiGennaro wrote:

I wonder what that glass will look like in 5-10 years, all scratched
up from sand and grit attached to people's shoes.

I think someone mentioned that you put on slippers when you go out in
the Skywalk.
If it were me, I'd lay thin sheets of transparent plastic over the glass
that could be easily and cheaply replaced if they got scratched.

Pat

Worrying about scratched glass on the sky bridge is like worrying
about scratched glass on a space tourism flight (one being a little
more expensive than the other though), so you might just want to visit
the website listed below, and book your plans to visit the Grand
Canyon one nature most wondrous places on earth, as the Hualapai are
reaching out to share the beautiful land they have with everybody who
wants to enjoy it.
tom

http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com/indexe.html

http://www.destinationgrandcanyon.com/history.html
"The Great Spirit created Man and Woman in his own image. In doing so,
both were created as equals. Both depending on each other in order to
survive. Great respect was shown for each other, in doing so,
happiness and contentment was achieved them as it should be now.

The connecting of the Hair makes them one person; for happiness or
contentment cannot be achieved without each other.

The Canyons are represented by the purples in the middle ground, where
the people were created. These canyons are Sacred, and should be so
treated at all times.

The Reservation is pictured to represent the land that is ours, treat
it well.

The Sun is the symbol of life, without it nothing is possible - plants
don't grow - there will be no life - nothing. The Sun also represents
the dawn of the Hualapai people. Through hard work, determination and
education, everything is possible and we are assured bigger and
brighter days ahead.

The Tracks in the middle represent the coyote and other animals which
were here before us.

The Green around the symbol are pine trees, representing our name
Hualapai - PEOPLE OF THE TALL PINES"