Kerry Interested in your views on Space and NASA

(Derek Lyons) wrote in message ...
(CL Vancil) wrote:

At the very least Kerry is interested 'now'
in what you or I have to say about NASA and it's budget. Were in 2000
Bush could have given a rats ass for your opinion on NASA.

Quite likely Kerry feels the same today. Don't confuse a poll written
by a staffer, on the advice of other staffers, with the position of a
politician. He won't even *have* a position until the poll is
complete.


Your confusing Kerry with Bush. One has a mind the the latter has
people making it appear that he has one.

The Republican's think pointing out Kerry is on "all side" of an issue
is unflattering and shows him to flip flop on issues. Boil it down
to..."don't think be of one mind"! They are trying to place him in
some sort of box. Any one they can as long as it is unflattering .
And they can't very well use the sandbox Georgie plays in. It is all
wet from him pee there.

You basing this on what? Working for Kerry? Some members of congress
do some of their own leg work. You have no evidence of anykind to
support what you write.

--Chris Vancil

Scott Lowther wrote:

Charles Buckley wrote:

Scott Lowther wrote:


Joe Strout wrote:


In article ,
Scott Lowther wrote:



CL Vancil wrote:



I don't know. Does it? At the very least Kerry is interested 'now'
in what you or I have to say about NASA and it's budget.

Kerry has already said that he will scrap any manned missions to the
Moon and Mars. Or are you suggestign he might flip-flop?

I haven't seen him say any such thing. Do you have a reference?


http://www.spacepolitics.com/archives/000083.html

"But Kerry said the U.S. government should not be talking about
returning to the moon or going to Mars missions proposed by President
Bush.
Rather, he said, leaving his prepared speech, "we need to go to the moon
right here on Earth" by creating high-paying jobs of the future and
making sure that "young Americans in uniform are never held hostage" to
Middle East oil.
The Toledo Blade offers the full quote at the end of its article about
Kerry's speech:

"What we need to do as we enter this dawn of the 21st century, is not
talk about going to the Moon or even to Mars. We need to go to the Moon
right here on Earth by creating the jobs, building the high value-added
jobs of the future, making clear that no young American in uniform ever
ought to be held hostage to America’s dependence on oil in the Middle
East," he said."



Reading quite abit into that, aren't you?


Let me think: "What we need to do as we enter this dawn of the 21st
century, is not talk about going to the Moon or even to Mars."

Hmm.


It's a list of priorities that match Bush's actual funding which
allocates zero dollars.



"We need to foster the next generation of discovery and ingenuity with
increased funding for important programs and agencies such as the
National Science Foundation and NASA. "


Well, gee. Looks like a flip-flip.



Looks like someone trying to read way to much into a statement
that the top priorities are jobs, the economy, and rational military
committments.

Charles Buckley wrote:

Looks like someone trying to read way to much into a statement
that the top priorities are jobs, the economy, and rational military
committments.

Well, his plans call for the elimination of jobs, the destruction of the
economy and the collapse of the military. I guess scrapping the space
program just makes sence to Kerry too.
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Scott Lowther wrote:

Charles Buckley wrote:


Looks like someone trying to read way to much into a statement
that the top priorities are jobs, the economy, and rational military
committments.


Well, his plans call for the elimination of jobs, the destruction of the
economy and the collapse of the military. I guess scrapping the space
program just makes sence to Kerry too.


Wow.. you just described the last 4 years...

On 11 Mar 2004 13:00:57 -0800, (CL Vancil)
wrote:

Go here and scroll the topics till you find "Space budget and NASA"


Unfortunately, when you go to the issues page (
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/ ), "space budget and NASA" is not
there. So while we can contact his campaign about it, his web site
doesn't appear to contain anything he has to say on the subject.


.... So who is pro space?


If Kerry is, he's not sayin'.




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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:39:08 GMT, Scott Lowther
wrote:

Kerry has already said that he will scrap any manned missions to the
Moon and Mars ....

I've been saying that all along; thank you for confirming it!






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In article ,
Scott Lowther wrote:

Charles Buckley wrote:

Looks like someone trying to read way to much into a statement
that the top priorities are jobs, the economy, and rational military
committments.

Well, his plans call for the elimination of jobs, the destruction of the
economy and the collapse of the military. I guess scrapping the space
program just makes sence to Kerry too.

What nonnsense. Scott, I've always respected your posts before, but now
you've started foaming at the mouth. You tried to make a point, had it
refuted, and instead of taking it like a grown-up, you've resorted to
making even *more* ridiculous claims that can't be backed up.

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Charles Buckley wrote:

Scott Lowther wrote:

Charles Buckley wrote:


Looks like someone trying to read way to much into a statement
that the top priorities are jobs, the economy, and rational military
committments.


Well, his plans call for the elimination of jobs, the destruction of the
economy and the collapse of the military. I guess scrapping the space
program just makes sence to Kerry too.

Wow.. you just described the last 4 years...

Actually, I described the 8 years prior. Clintonomics led to the massive
recession that Bush inheirited, and the devastation of military and
intelleigence capability that led to 9-11... and that's exactly the sort
of crap Kerry want to go back to. No, thank you.


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Michael Gallagher wrote:

On 11 Mar 2004 13:00:57 -0800, (CL Vancil)
wrote:


Go here and scroll the topics till you find "Space budget and NASA"



Unfortunately, when you go to the issues page (
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/ ), "space budget and NASA" is not
there. So while we can contact his campaign about it, his web site
doesn't appear to contain anything he has to say on the subject.



There is a search function on that webpage. Bottom left.
Try it.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/urban/index.html

"Revitalize the High Technology Sector to Pave the Way for Industries of
the Future. Kerry will erase the digital divide and will fight to
connect every American family to the Internet, encourage a renewed
educational focus on science and math, bring the best practices of
operational efficiency from the private sector to the public sector, and
restore the government's commitment to scientific achievement through
increases in research funding for the Department of Energy, NASA, and
the National Science Foundation. Kerry will also strongly support
programs targeted at the next generation of innovation, such as
nanotechnology and biotechnology research."

"Scott Lowther" wrote in message
...

Actually, I described the 8 years prior. Clintonomics led to the massive
recession that Bush inheirited, and the devastation of military and
intelleigence capability that led to 9-11... and that's exactly the sort
of crap Kerry want to go back to. No, thank you.


Yes, you're right. Clinton only created 22 million jobs in 8 years.

Bush has created what, negative 2.6 million now I think. Ayup. You're
right, Bush is doing such a better job.

Unless Bush pulls a miracle out of his but, he's going to be the first
president since Hoover to lose jobs under his tenure.