Venus EXPRESS is alive, as is the planet and Guth Venus

Complex Meteorology at Venus (Venus Express)

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...de22fbd03fdc31
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Venus_Ex...5OV74TE_0.html
"The thermal radiation coming from the oven-hot surface of Venus is
represented by the intensity of the colours: the brighter the colour
(towards white), the more radiation comes from the surface, so the less
cloudy the region in the line of sight between the view and the
spacecraft is."

At least ESAs Venus EXPRESS (VIRTIS) team has been correctly stipulating
as to the primary source of the local atmospheric thermal energy, being
that of the geothermally active surface itself and NOT the supposed
atmospheric greenhouse as we've been told over and over by our team of
NASA wizards. The rather obvious thermal differentials depicted by
these latest IR imaging results do in fact clearly depict as to a wide
range of thermal properties, that which makes for the nighttime season
of Venus into something extremely interesting and potentially viable for
future expeditions, at least by way of rigid airship.

The atmospheric temperature of the nighttime season is obviously much
cooler than by day, though obviously the geothermally active surface
radiated thermal energy isn't going to be all that much less than by
day.

Unfortunately, the ESA/VIRTIS team of supposed Venus wizards are still
deathly afraid of our MIB, as to share anything that could be in any way
specific as to their ongoing survey, that even without their nifty PFS
instrument is more than good enough to have established various
atmospheric thermal layers or zones to within +/- 10 K. I guess ESA
isn't quite as independent of our ruse/sting of the century as we'd
thought, or at least hoped for.
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Venus Facts, Planetology and Venusian Life that's existing/coexisting in
spite of all that's NASA:

Too bad that we're still not quite smart enough to establish the
efficient LSE-CM/ISS or even so much as the VL2 platform. God forbid we
should actually advance our personal knowledge and widen our
intellectual scope while exploring and taking from whatever's nearest to
Earth.

Global warming that's clearly been contributed to by way of our
extremely massive moon, as having only been with us since the last ice
age, plus our ongoing albedo dimming efforts via the pillaging and
raping of mother Earth along with our nifty soot, CO2, NOx and a rather
toxic brew of other substances is only going to get worse, not that it
isn't sufficiently bad enough as is. However, as our life essential
magnetosphere once again sinks into the nearest toilet, the SAA comes to
represent covering most of Earth, and subsequently our frail DNA takes
yet another unfortunate dive for the worse, whereas chances are looking
somewhat better off than ever for the prospects of our frail DNA
formulated bodies and souls being accommodated within the nicely
protective environment of Venus.

The warm and fuzzy Venusian facts:
The plant Venus is very much alive and kicking it's own rather newish
planetology butt, and as such it'll easily accommodate frying most any
other naked posterior that comes to visit it's geothermally hot soil and
rock. However, if you weren't entirely dumbfounded and actually went in
person to Venus with at least half a village idiot's brain, and
therefore didn't plan upon intentionally trying to step in or much less
walk upon all of that supposed melted lead we keep hearing about,
whereas chances are that with some degree of dumb luck and a touch of
applied technology you'd be perfectly fine and dandy, that is up until
you ran yourself out of ice cold beer or having a malfunctioning
CO2--CO/O2 system because, within that sort of toasty pressure you'd
need that cold beer and roughly 0.5% O2 with perhaps the remainder in H2
in order to manage your survival within that extra hot and dry surface
environment.

In other words, going to Venus in the buff is not a viable option unless
you're planning upon staying within your energy efficient rigid airship,
as you take advantage of the crystal clear, relatively calm and
extremely buoyant and nicely retrograde atmosphere throughout the entire
expedition.

But silly me for thinking the least bit outside that all-knowing
mainstream status quo box, where supposedly only the likes of
sufficiently wet and life infested planets as Earth are acceptable to
being the one and only intelligent life that matters, as in no matters
how intelligent and/or evolutionary advance such other life might be, we
human species are apparently all that counts, even if that ET life were
to be Jewish isn't any assurance that we're not going to take those
unfortunate actions that got so much of our species in trouble before.

The new and improved information about Venus isn't exactly easy to come
by. Venus is somewhat like our taboo/nondisclosure moon, in that the
truth about much of anything is currently sequestered as though it's a
deep dark hocus-pocus secret.

Even ESA's Venus EXPRESS/(VIRTIS) mission is still having to operate in
stealth science mode of protecting our all-knowing lord NASA plus on
behalf of GOOGLE's NOVA and even covering for TIME, National Geographic
and Smithsonian plus a bloody host of so many other infomercial media
spewing butts, while also having to cover all of those hoity toity
British infomercial spewing posteriors with all of their supposedly
straight and narrow butt-crack worth of their very own MI of mainstream
status quo or bust at all possible cost, which is a little unfortunate
because of the wealth of such nifty science that's new and improved as
currently being derived specifically via ESA's VIRTIS mission is exactly
what it is. Supposedly team VIRTIS is still having to make due without
their nifty PFS instrument as being somewhat their science corner stone,
whereas PFS is what technically represents a good 75% worth of their
science effort that's either down for the count or having been
officially sequestered until they can figure out what to do with the
likes of little old me.

Too bad the warm and fuzzy likes of John Ackerman are so terribly
mindset and/or simply not mighty enough individuals as to put up yet
another good fight, nor are others of such open mindsets willing to step
up to this extremely hot-plate of whatever the newish geothermal
planetology of what this geothermally active Venusian environment
beholds.
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Brad Guth


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Venus Facts, Planetology and Venusian or ET Life that's
existing/coexisting in spite of all that's NASA: However, too bad that
we're still not quite smart enough to establish the efficient LSE-CM/ISS
or even so much as the VL2 science platform. God forbid we should
actually advance our personal knowledge and widen our intellectual scope
while exploring and taking from whatever's nearest to Earth.

Global warming that's clearly been contributed to by way of our
extremely mascon worthy moon (as having only been with us since the last
ice age), plus our ongoing albedo dimming efforts via the pillaging and
raping of mother Earth along with our nifty soot, CO2, NOx and a rather
toxic brew of other substances is only going to get worse, not that it
isn't sufficiently bad enough as is. However, as our life essential
magnetosphere once again sinks into the nearest toilet, the SAA comes to
represent covering most of Earth, and subsequently our frail DNA takes
yet another unfortunate dive for the worse, whereas chances are looking
somewhat better off than ever for the prospects of our frail DNA
formulated bodies and souls being accommodated within the nicely
protective environment of Venus.

The warm and fuzzy Venusian facts:
The planet Venus is very much alive and kicking it's very own rather
newish planetology butt, and as such it'll easily accommodate frying
most any other naked posterior that comes to visit it's geothermally hot
soil and rock. However, if you weren't entirely dumbfounded and
actually went in person to Venus with at least half a village idiot's
brain, and therefore didn't plan upon intentionally trying to step in or
much less walk upon all of that supposed melted lead we keep hearing
about, whereas chances are that with some degree of dumb luck and a
touch of applied technology you'd be perfectly fine and dandy, that is
up until you ran yourself out of ice cold beer or having a
malfunctioning CO2--CO/O2 system because, within that sort of toasty
pressure you'd need that cold beer and roughly 0.5% O2 with perhaps the
remainder in H2 in order to manage your survival within that extra hot
and dry surface environment.

In other words, going to Venus in the buff is not a viable option unless
you're planning upon staying within your energy efficient rigid airship,
as you take advantage of the crystal clear, relatively calm and
extremely buoyant and nicely retrograde atmosphere throughout the entire
expedition.

But silly me for thinking the least bit outside that all-knowing
mainstream status quo box, where supposedly only the likes of
sufficiently wet and life infested planets as Earth are acceptable to
being the one and only intelligent life that matters, as in no matters
how intelligent and/or evolutionary advance such other life might be, we
human species are apparently all that counts, even if that ET life were
to be Jewish isn't any assurance that we're not going to take those
unfortunate actions that got so much of our species in trouble before.

The new and improved information about Venus isn't exactly easy to come
by. Venus is somewhat like our taboo/nondisclosure moon, in that the
truth about much of anything is currently sequestered as though it's a
deep dark hocus-pocus secret.

Even ESA's Venus EXPRESS/(VIRTIS) mission is still having to operate in
stealth science mode of protecting our all-knowing lord NASA plus on
behalf of GOOGLE's NOVA and even covering for TIME, National Geographic
and Smithsonian plus a bloody host of so many other infomercial media
spewing butts, while also having to cover all of those hoity toity
British infomercial spewing posteriors with all of their supposedly
straight and narrow butt-crack worth of their very own MI of mainstream
status quo or bust at all possible cost, which is a little unfortunate
because of the wealth of such nifty science that's new and improved as
currently being derived specifically via ESA's VIRTIS mission is exactly
what it is. Supposedly team VIRTIS is still having to make due without
their nifty PFS instrument as being somewhat their science corner stone,
whereas PFS is what technically represents a good 75% worth of their
science effort that's either down for the count or having been
officially sequestered until they can figure out what to do with the
likes of little old me.

Too bad the warm and fuzzy likes of John Ackerman are so terribly
mindset and/or simply not mighty enough individuals as to put up yet
another good fight, nor are others of such open mindsets willing to step
up to this extremely hot-plate of whatever the newish geothermal
planetology of what this geothermally active Venusian environment
beholds.
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Apparently Venus is still more alive than this anti-think-tank of a
topic/author banishment Usenet from hell.

As I've often said before, that many of you folks are more naysay
mindset and thereby anti-think-tank worthy than our resident LLPOF
warlord(GW Bush). Being without remorse is also par for this Usenet
course that's oddly having more than it's fair share of devout
born-again atheist that are rather oddly pro-Jewish and otherwise about
as faith-based as you can possibly get into being pro-Bush at the same
time, and thus more status quo than most anywhere else on Earth.

Firstly, our salty moon and of it's more than somewhat lethal surface
environment was perhaps once upon a time doable if such other life had
originally been residing as sequestered within the 262 km thick layer of
salty ice, or having since migrated sufficiently deep within hollow
rilles or perhaps within geode pockets where there's still some degree
of a brine or other mineral/chemical substance containing h2o. Life as
we know it (spores, microbes and larger) doesn't actually require direct
sunlight, and sufficiently intelligent life can simply devise whatever
artificial light that a given situation demands (proper evolution and/or
intelligent design gives life bioluminance capability and if need be
better eyes that are 100 fold more sensitive, plus others as having far
greater spectrum capability than us humans).

I'll also contribute that the humanly subjective science of
observationology and those regular laws of physics go hand and hand with
most other deductive analogies that are usually accepted on behalf
whatever's promoting the mainstream status quo, whereas such there's all
sorts of viable possibilities that are currently available on behalf of
those rationally deductive interpretations of what's to be seen on
behalf of that rather nearby other planet having accommodated such
Venusian and/or ET life, as to having been existing/coexisting upon
Venus in spite of their extremely buoyant and toasty environment that
offers so freaking much spare/renewable energy to all but the most
heathen species of village idiots.

Venus is without question humanly hot because of the relatively newish
planetology of it's geothermally active environment, but it's not
actually the least bit insurmountably too hot or even too nasty as for
intelligent and/or of sufficiently evolved/adapted life to touch, nor as
having survived within that toasty environment for quite some time.
Perhaps that very same constructive analogy may even include us wussy
humans if we'd care to apply a little common sense worth of technology,
as based once again upon those pesky regular laws of physics.

As far as we know, the raw Venusian atmosphere isn't directly compatible
with our existing biological and/or physiological requirements of having
to accomplish whatever future expeditions of Venus while in the buff.
However, with some degree of co2--co/o2 via applied technology is about
all that it should take in order to improve upon those breathable
requirements on our behalf.

With energy, most everything under the sun becomes doable, and Venus
simply has way more than it's fair share of fully renewable/spare energy
than either of us can shake a bloody fist full of flaming sticks at, and
therefore little if any such energy for whatever processing and/or
accomplishing of whatever task need be imported from Earth. Isn't that
good news, or what?

At least for the task of accomplishing Venus, as such we don't have to
pack along those extra tonnes of nuclear reactors. In fact, with a
composite rigid airship, there's no actual good reason(s) as to set a
human hot foot on that deck.
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In spite of all the ongoing topic/author banishment, it seems as though
Venus offers a somewhat rare planet as having rather easily accommodated
other intelligent life, whereas Earth with it's somewhat recently
obtained moon (since the last ice age) and as such having subsequently
accommodated our seasons and having contributed extensively to our vast
and salty oceans, is simply chuck full of summarily dumbfounded folks
that are well past the point of no return, made possible because of all
our insurmountable bigotry, arrogance and faith-based greed that'll
knowingly put one of it's own kind on a stick or having sent off the
troops in order to exterminate whomever.

Further proof that I'm right; Take to mentioning anything as to our
losing .05%/year of our magnetosphere, and of what that topic alone
represents to life as we know it, and lo and behold, all the supposed
intellectual lights in this anti-think-tank of a mostly naysay Usenet go
out. Is that what a denial of denial is all about, or what?

The ongoing NASA/Apollo orchestrated lie is simply a little icing on the
cake of disinformation that has to continually utilize those conditional
laws of physics, and of having to applying as much infomercial-science
as they can manage to hype and get away with.

However, even ESA's latest efforts of sharing the new and improved truth
about Venus or of anything related to our moon or even that of our
moon's L1 isn't going to be an easy task when they and our NASA had
previously established so much other infomercial-science that was
entirely skewed and/or bogus about Venus and our moon.

Perhaps ESA's Venus EXPRESS is not nearly as alive as it should be,
especially since they're not about to be sharing squat worth of whatever
their PFS instrument is having to say. It could be called ESA's version
of sequestered or taboo/nondisclosure science, and I do believe it's
that simple.
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Here's a little more of what's currently taboo/nondisclosure
(topic/author banishment worthy) on behalf of Venus. Too bad ESA's
Venus EXPRESS team of supposed wizards are currently sequestered until
those NASA/Apollo cows manage to come home.

Exploring Venus with a Composite Rigid Airship

Where necessary having a meter thick insulative skin that's made
extensively of the 4.84 GPa basalt fibers (Elastic modulus GPa of 89)
and otherwise of basalt micro-balloons, plus a fair percentage of having
those not so micro balloons that might as well contain H2 or simply
incorporate a good vacuum, is what should obtain the structurally
insulative R-1024/m that'll also benefit from the local 65 kg/m3 worth
of buoyancy, which should cut the net tonnage or cubic density of that
outer hull plus offsetting much of the airship's internal framing and
various infrastructure aspects of decks and structured compartments by
as great as 50%, though perhaps at first a 25% offset of the total
structural consideration that's due to the cubic volumetric buoyancy
factor is more than likely going to be the case.

Of course the primary buoyancy that afforded by it's volumetric shell
needn't be nearly as insulative, just made robust and otherwise tough
enough in order to take the submarine like pressure of perhaps 2000 psi
(138 bar), or perhaps not even 10% of that much if using a displacement
gas such as H2 that can be created while on the fly.

Tossing in the 90.5% gravity as offering yet another attractive factor
is what should rather nicely facilitate this form of Venusian
exploration as a technological done deal, that which airframe size or
total volume of this rigid airship (AKA fat waverider/shuttle) is nearly
a none issue except for having to fend off all of the usual mainstream
flak that's to be expected from those naysay mindsets that wouldn't so
much as accept the truth even if it meant salvaging their own status quo
butts.

I believe the necessary R&D on behalf of accomplishing this Venusian
rigid airship/(fat waverider/shuttle or whatever robotic probe) isn't
even all that insurmountable, as for being terrestrial constructed and
fully proof-tested right here on Earth, especially if at first we're
talking about a purely robotic application which wouldn't demand 1% of
the mass if pertaining to merely sustaining each of the various
scientific instrumentation demands.

As far as accomplishing this task robotically, we're not talking about
all that large nor aerodynamically configured worth of any such craft
(could be just a rigid sphere of an airship), nor would the onboard
energy demands be all that daunting. The nicely retrograde weather
that's relatively calm below them nifty acidic clouds is actually a
rather terrific efficiency consideration that'll nearly always work on
behalf of enhancing much of the expedition's navigating considerations,
thereby very little propulsion energy is going to be required.

Of CCD's and other ICs on diamond, or simply employing miniature vacuum
tube applications are going to more than function as being entirely
within their thermal spec, meaning that little if any auxiliary cooling
need be applied.

So, one should be thinking on behalf of robotically flown rigid airships
being anything from a few cubic meters to as large as you'd dare to
achieve, and of those humanly operated rigid airships of anything from
as little as 1,000 m3 to 1,000,000 m3 should be seriously considered.

Unlike having to accomplish our moon, there's nothing about this rigid
airship technology that's technically outside the expertise and scope of
existing science and proven technology that'll efficiently and safely
operate within the Venusian atmosphere, as well as entirely within the
regular laws of physics.

Extreme high temperature diamond IC's insteasd of merely silicon carbide
(SiC) for high temperature semiconductor applications, whereas SiC works
perfectly fine even when it's glowing hot, and if the process of doping
diamond isn't too pesky is where this element of diamond (C) should take
over whenever the SiC application isn't quite sufficient. A less
densely populated high temperature rated IC would obviously demand
perhaps as great a 10 fold increase in area, therefore a CCD on SiC or C
of 50 micron pixels (possibly as tightly populated at 25 micron/pixels)
should be doable within existing technology.
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/RT2000/5000/5510okojie.html

Conventional IC gate densities that might achieve 100000 gates/mm2
should become merely 10000 gates/mm2, although I believe 15000 gates/mm2
is entirely doable and at that being way overkill for the Venusian
applications that's nearly always operating within something less than
the worse case of 811 K.

Within a conventional 0.35 micron process, a gate density of 18000 gates
per square millimeter can be achieved, whereas dividing that gate
population by a factor of 10 is obviously worthy of laying down 1800
gates/mm2 that'll more than survive the thermal trauma with a few
roasting degrees to spare.

What this means is that folks that would rather drop dead than to
utilize vacuum tube circuitry that's more than suited to surviving 900 K
should be right at home on the toasty range of cruising within the
nighttime season of that geothermally roasting Venusian deck, using
their SiC or C alternatives in thermally tolerant ICs that are simply
less populated devices than the norm. However, since internal
probe/airship space and whatever mass isn't hardly a factor, so what's
the difference.

In spite of what all we've been informed of over and over, Venus is more
than technically doable as is. Though having been geothermally toasty
and very much alive and kicking that rather newish planetology butt,
it's simply not too hot nor too nasty to go visit, at least from the
relative safety of a good composite rigid airship.
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Brad Guth wrote:

Here's a little more of what's currently taboo/nondisclosure
(topic/author banishment worthy) on behalf of Venus. Too bad ESA's
Venus EXPRESS team of supposed wizards are currently sequestered until
those NASA/Apollo cows manage to come home.

Poor Brad, he's so ignored.

Exploring Venus with a Composite Rigid Airship

Hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah

You must be desperate if you are draggingh Venusian Zeppelin out of
mothballs, Brad.

[screed flushed]

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attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen

Even though ESA's Venus EXPRESS mission is still PFS and otherwise suck
deeply within their own cesspool of need-to-know infomercial science,
whereas it seems Earth's surface of such extensive vertical formations
hasn't been quite as plate tectonic and erosion formulated as you'd
think.

In addition to what Velikovsky and a few others may have had
sufficiently right about Venus and our moon, as of each having arrived
somewhat more recently than we've been informed, there's a little more
here and there about good old mother Earth and of our having obtained
that moon to behold, as considerably more interesting than what our
extensively Jewish moderated media and of their MI/NSA Usenet from hell
has been willing to share.

Obviously these 'Old Testament' bible thumping, fossil fuel sucking and
nasty soot producing folks still haven't so much as a shred of
hard-scientific evidence to share, that's got our absolutely horrific
orbiting mascon of such a physically dark and salty moon as belonging to
Earth as of much prior to 10,000 BC. Have you folks ever so much as
bothered to check out any other planet/moon mass ratios? (obviously
that's another one of my silly trick questions because, of course you
haven't)

In Usenet naysay land: The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/sc...ma ilgate.org

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...ca827d4e2c8fee
From:
It's simple to get on the outs with mainstream astronomy.
Anything that does not agree to 100 decimal places
with the plate tectonic theory of Gaia/Pangea.
gets you out of astronomy and into super-robots.

By way of "super robots" you mean by way of the MIB sorts of incest
cloned borg minions of this extremely brown-nosed naysay Usenet, as
having demonstrated time and again that they'll do whatever it takes in
order to put the breaks, termination and/or apply their kibosh form of
topic banishment upon any such notions of true geology, or for that
matter trashing down upon any number of other truths that have not been
allowed to coexist, all because such honest swags obviously weren't
preapproved by these Jewish infomercial spewing lords, nor do our best
of outsider intentions otherwise fit into their cult like mainstream
status quo mindset of what has to suit thy Old Testament, or else.

Question their social/political ulterior motives or hidden Old Testament
intentions and they all claim being as atheistic as they come, yet
they're consistently yaysay upon damn near everything that's either
Jewish or GW Bush worthy, and otherwise naysay on most anything Muslim,
Christian or JFK like. In fact, the lower 99.9% of humanity and that of
our badly failing global environment seems not the least bit worth
mainstream squat in the eyes of those in charge of whatever gets
moderated to death and/or selectively promoted and hyped by this Usenet.

Cutting any new and improved trail is apparently another
taboo/nondisclosure fiasco that's worth an all-out WW-III effort of
tossing as much flak as possible within this anti-think-tank of a Usenet
from hell, that which otherwise suits their Jewish Old Testament exactly
as is, just like they tend to support everything that's GW Bush and by
enlarge they don't believe humanity has anything whatsoever to do with
global warming (of which you folks should appreciate, that because of
our being so extensively global warmed to death by our moon is the
reason why I don't entirely disagree with some of their arguments).

: Ancient Crash, Epic Wave
: By Sandra Blakeslee
: Published: November 14, 2006
: source: New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/sc...pagewanted=all
Ted Bryant, a geomorphologist at the University of Wollongong in
New South Wales, Australia, was the first person to recognize the
palm prints of mega-tsunamis. Large tsunamis of 30 feet or more
are caused by volcanoes, earthquakes and submarine landslides, he
said, and their deposits have different features.

I'd have to say that Ted Bryant being a "geomorphologist" seems a rather
interesting expertise that we could all use in order to further
appreciate what large impacts accomplished on behalf of creating some of
the most interesting parts of our geophysical environment. Such as the
Hudson Bay impact crater as having caused the extent of Himalayan
mountain range, or via the arctic ocean basin impactor that managed to
push up the antarctic land mass, and so forth.

Clearly without such impact modifications to Earth's physically wet and
previously having been an extensively icy and/or somewhat frosty
monoseason environment with only a solar tide, as such this would have
meant even less available dry land and much less vertical terrain than
we have as of today.

The last time I'd checked, the surface of Earth was still a whole lot
more of water than dry land, and especially as having originally been
more uniformly roundish before having been impacted and thereby having
obtained all of that extra salty ice from our arriving moon. As such,
there should be some rather impressive looking oceanic basin imprints of
such past encounters, of perhaps having caused a good sized ocean basin
imprint by a given icy proto-moon of roughly 4000 km, such as having
impacted Earth on one given side along with having caused a few
drastically pushed up mountains on the opposite/antipode side, plus
causing lots of seriously weird stuff in between.

After all, it obviously took something of a fairly horrific glancing
bump in the night in order to reshape the surface and subsequently
change our somewhat frosty monoseason environment, into one having such
extreme summer/winter seasons along with obtaining those extra nifty
mascon contributed tides, plus having received more salty ice than we
could possibly have known what to do with.

There shouldn't be any question that Earth had been seriously impacted
more than once. Of course, this shoots a few more holes than SpongeBob
SquarePants has into that Old Testament thumping worth of any singular
'Big Bang' theory.

Perhaps the next such near miss or God forbid lethal impact is where
we'll have more than 4 days notice from our crack NASA wizards.
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Brad Guth wrote:
Even though ESA's Venus EXPRESS mission is still PFS and otherwise suck
deeply within their own cesspool of need-to-know infomercial science,
whereas it seems Earth's surface of such extensive vertical formations
hasn't been quite as plate tectonic and erosion formulated as you'd
think.

In addition to what Velikovsky and a few others may have had
sufficiently right about Venus and our moon, as of each having arrived
somewhat more recently than we've been informed, there's a little more
here and there about good old mother Earth and of our having obtained
that moon to behold, as considerably more interesting than what our
extensively Jewish moderated media and of their MI/NSA Usenet from hell
has been willing to share.

Obviously these 'Old Testament' bible thumping, fossil fuel sucking and
nasty soot producing folks still haven't so much as a shred of
hard-scientific evidence to share, that's got our absolutely horrific
orbiting mascon of such a physically dark and salty moon as belonging to
Earth as of much prior to 10,000 BC. Have you folks ever so much as
bothered to check out any other planet/moon mass ratios? (obviously
that's another one of my silly trick questions because, of course you
haven't)

In Usenet naysay land: The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

http://mygate.mailgate.org/mynews/sc...ma ilgate.org

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.s...ca827d4e2c8fee
From:
It's simple to get on the outs with mainstream astronomy.
Anything that does not agree to 100 decimal places
with the plate tectonic theory of Gaia/Pangea.
gets you out of astronomy and into super-robots.

By way of "super robots" you mean by way of the MIB sorts of incest
cloned borg minions of this extremely brown-nosed naysay Usenet, as
having demonstrated time and again that they'll do whatever it takes in
order to put the breaks, termination and/or apply their kibosh form of
topic banishment upon any such notions of true geology,

Usenet has nothing to do with it. Since Usenet
is nothing but permaent OJT for
IBM System 360 hire-ons,

:Super Robots are the kind that mine orbiting asteroids,
rather than sunken asteroids.


or for that
matter trashing down upon any number of other truths that have not been
allowed to coexist, all because such honest swags obviously weren't
preapproved by these Jewish infomercial spewing lords, nor do our best
of outsider intentions otherwise fit into their cult like mainstream
status quo mindset of what has to suit thy Old Testament, or else.

Question their social/political ulterior motives or hidden Old Testament
intentions and they all claim being as atheistic as they come, yet
they're consistently yaysay upon damn near everything that's either
Jewish or GW Bush worthy, and otherwise naysay on most anything Muslim,
Christian or JFK like. In fact, the lower 99.9% of humanity and that of
our badly failing global environment seems not the least bit worth
mainstream squat in the eyes of those in charge of whatever gets
moderated to death and/or selectively promoted and hyped by this Usenet.

Cutting any new and improved trail is apparently another
taboo/nondisclosure fiasco that's worth an all-out WW-III effort of
tossing as much flak as possible within this anti-think-tank of a Usenet
from hell, that which otherwise suits their Jewish Old Testament exactly
as is, just like they tend to support everything that's GW Bush and by
enlarge they don't believe humanity has anything whatsoever to do with
global warming (of which you folks should appreciate, that because of
our being so extensively global warmed to death by our moon is the
reason why I don't entirely disagree with some of their arguments).

: Ancient Crash, Epic Wave
: By Sandra Blakeslee
: Published: November 14, 2006
: source: New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/14/sc...pagewanted=all
Ted Bryant, a geomorphologist at the University of Wollongong in
New South Wales, Australia, was the first person to recognize the
palm prints of mega-tsunamis. Large tsunamis of 30 feet or more
are caused by volcanoes, earthquakes and submarine landslides, he
said, and their deposits have different features.

I'd have to say that Ted Bryant being a "geomorphologist" seems a rather
interesting expertise that we could all use in order to further
appreciate what large impacts accomplished on behalf of creating some of
the most interesting parts of our geophysical environment. Such as the
Hudson Bay impact crater as having caused the extent of Himalayan
mountain range, or via the arctic ocean basin impactor that managed to
push up the antarctic land mass, and so forth.

Clearly without such impact modifications to Earth's physically wet and
previously having been an extensively icy and/or somewhat frosty
monoseason environment with only a solar tide, as such this would have
meant even less available dry land and much less vertical terrain than
we have as of today.

The last time I'd checked, the surface of Earth was still a whole lot
more of water than dry land, and especially as having originally been
more uniformly roundish before having been impacted and thereby having
obtained all of that extra salty ice from our arriving moon. As such,
there should be some rather impressive looking oceanic basin imprints of
such past encounters, of perhaps having caused a good sized ocean basin
imprint by a given icy proto-moon of roughly 4000 km, such as having
impacted Earth on one given side along with having caused a few
drastically pushed up mountains on the opposite/antipode side, plus
causing lots of seriously weird stuff in between.

After all, it obviously took something of a fairly horrific glancing
bump in the night in order to reshape the surface and subsequently
change our somewhat frosty monoseason environment, into one having such
extreme summer/winter seasons along with obtaining those extra nifty
mascon contributed tides, plus having received more salty ice than we
could possibly have known what to do with.

There shouldn't be any question that Earth had been seriously impacted
more than once. Of course, this shoots a few more holes than SpongeBob
SquarePants has into that Old Testament thumping worth of any singular
'Big Bang' theory.

Perhaps the next such near miss or God forbid lethal impact is where
we'll have more than 4 days notice from our crack NASA wizards.
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Brad Guth


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"zzbunker" wrote in message
oups.com

Usenet has nothing to do with it. Since Usenet is nothing
but permaent OJT for IBM System 360 hire-ons,

:Super Robots are the kind that mine orbiting asteroids,
rather than sunken asteroids.

And please do tell, this weird little contribution has what if anything
to do with accomplishing Venus or on behalf of global warming or
whatever LLPOF alternative bag of off-topic smoke and mirrors you've got
in your silly mindset?
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Brad Guth


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