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  #21  
Old January 4th 06, 09:17 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Default I Hate M57/Edmund 4" f/15

Howard Lester wrote:
"Phil Wheeler" wrote


Wow! That is one long tube. I wonder if the Japanese were making
scopes for US distribution back in 1968. No memory, one way or the other.



I have no idea, either, but I do believe and (somewhat) recall Edmund
offering those 4" refractors in the late 50's/early 60's.


I think they were. I looked in the reviews of old ("classic") scopes at
Cloudy Nights and there was a Tasco imported from Japan in the 60s.
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Old January 5th 06, 12:27 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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"Phil Wheeler" wrote in message
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MikeA wrote:
"Phil Wheeler" wrote in message
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MikeA wrote:

"Mean Mr Mustard" wrote in message
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I hate that tiny little ring of smoke ... There I said it!



Go away you lame brain ****. You don't deserve a telescope!

https://www.buytelescopes.com/galler...2&sg=8&page=15

Good ISP for you, Mike: Yahoo. The photo of "ring of smoke" you linked
to was not the one being discussed: Pretty Lame :-)



Does it matter?


Of course. When you call someone else a "lame brain", best not be
standing on quicksand yourself.


You are even lamer picking out such a thing and exaggerating and siding with
such an asshole.


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Old January 5th 06, 01:01 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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MikeA wrote:
"Phil Wheeler" wrote in message
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MikeA wrote:

"Phil Wheeler" wrote in message
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MikeA wrote:


"Mean Mr Mustard" wrote in message
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I hate that tiny little ring of smoke ... There I said it!



Go away you lame brain ****. You don't deserve a telescope!

https://www.buytelescopes.com/galler...2&sg=8&page=15

Good ISP for you, Mike: Yahoo. The photo of "ring of smoke" you linked
to was not the one being discussed: Pretty Lame :-)


Does it matter?


Of course. When you call someone else a "lame brain", best not be
standing on quicksand yourself.



You are even lamer picking out such a thing and exaggerating and siding with
such an asshole.




Not with him, but against your profane self :-)
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Old January 5th 06, 03:13 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Do you know if that was something they produced in Barrington? Was it a
rebranded Jaegers or Japanese scope?
======================================Hi, This is a question that I
honestly cannot answer correctly for you, in regards to where these
scopes, or their Optics were made?

I do remember (god what a memory I have!) that I used to read the S+T
mags from this time period (1968-1972) when I attended High School in
Wisconsin, and they did have the Edmund ads in S+T with both the 3", and
4" scopes listed.

I believe the 3" was $247, and the 4" was $348 at the time (With
non-driven EQ Head-Tripod)

I looked at the pic you posted, and yes, the tube bears similarities to
the one pictured, but if I can correctly recall, the Edmund I
used-borrored had a entirely Black Slip-On Metal DewShield.

Our School had bought both the 3", and 4" models together, and both came
from Edmund shipped-stored in a wooden crate-box so to speak, with
wooden cradles to support the OTA's inside the crate.

Both Scopes came with a very meager assortment of about 6, or 7
eyepieces total, and while they were only Ramsdens, and Kellners, they
worked quite well with the 4" F-15 Scope.

I was certainly smitten by the bug, and some years later decided to buy
a new Super C-8 Plus from Roger Tuthill (Now deceased, and the company
defunct)

Honestly, the C-8 never offered quite the stark contrast on objects like
this (M-57) as the 4" Achromat did. After 8 years of owning the C-8, I
knew it was time to move on, and go back to the high contrast, razor
sharp views that a fine refractor could offer.

Hence, I bought an Apomax 5.2" F-12 Apo Refractor in early '97, and a AP
Traveler in 2001.

The Apomax does remind me aesthetically of that old classic Edmund 4",
but easily surpasses the Edmund's abilities/performance, and build
quality of any other 4"-5" Achro ever made.

Don't get me wrong about SCT's though, I like them, and 2-1/2 years ago,
bought a Grey Tube Fastar C-14 OTA. The C-14 will pull in those faint
fuzzies a bit better than the two refractors will! Mark



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Old January 5th 06, 04:41 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Mark D wrote:
Do you know if that was something they produced in Barrington? Was it a
rebranded Jaegers or Japanese scope?
======================================Hi, This is a question that I
honestly cannot answer correctly for you, in regards to where these
scopes, or their Optics were made?

I do remember (god what a memory I have!) that I used to read the S+T
mags from this time period (1968-1972) when I attended High School in
Wisconsin, and they did have the Edmund ads in S+T with both the 3", and
4" scopes listed.

I believe the 3" was $247, and the 4" was $348 at the time (With
non-driven EQ Head-Tripod)


I remember some nearly useless details like this too. So far most
haven't even earned a usenet posting. Good on ya for that. Ever wonder
what useful function those neurons could be doing rather than storing
data on S&T adds from the Summer of Love?
:-)

Shawn

P.S. Sound like nice scopes, much better than my early 90s Astroscan.
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Old January 7th 06, 02:08 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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On 2006-01-03 20:29:27 -0500, "Mean Mr Mustard" said:

I hate that tiny little ring of smoke ... There I said it!



I think it's facinating myself. Why do you hate it? Being facetious?

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Old January 7th 06, 08:51 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur
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Why do you hate it? Being facetious?

Ya think?

Two posts in one day...

The funniest OP post in some time and the responses are as if from
Neanderthals.

Oh well, I suppose wit has passed SAA by.

It didn't used to be that way.

There used to be some clever and very amusing folks haunting these
halls.

Thanks for the chuckle, Mr. Mean, I'm sorry that you are not better
understood.

rat
~( );

 




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