so called new approach to design doublet APOs. ;>)

Take a look at the posts by RAT in the Losmandy thread now going on in
s.a.a. And note John Steinberg's advice to RAT in that thread.
I agree with John Steinberg that protesting until the situation is
remedied is a very good idea. And doing it publicly if one cannot get a
remedy privately, gives one leverage, and also serves to alert the rest
of us to the existence of problems.
I agree with your implication that promising more than one is certain
one can deliver is a very risky strategy for a new small business. It
throws a shadow over subsequent products, as we have seen here.
Clear skies,
Bill Meyers


Martin Frey wrote:
Bill Meyers wrote:


Jon is one of the most respected contributors to s.a.a., known for his
sensible and moderate posts on a variety of astronomical subjects over
many years. We are interested in hearing from him. Perhaps you could
express your views without tryng to quell others? You do make some good
points about innovation and we are glad to hear those.
Bill Meyers


But when the same post goes round and round and round - time to call a
halt. If Jon has issues with BO, or any other manufacturer, and keeps
repeating it, it begins to sound like either a witch hunt or wounded
whining, whatever the past record. Whatever the rights and wrongs BO
is the party that dropped a bundle on the earlier scope. If they don't
get the next one right they will be, I suspect, in deep trouble and
most likely vanish from the market place. That seems to me lend some
credibility to Tom's assurances for which BO (and Tom) should be given
a bit of leeway. All Jon has to do is stay away from the new scope a
relatively easy task. All BO have to do is deliver a decent scope -
even more than decent - nowhere near such an easy task and one that
can be made impossible with enough negativity trumpeted from enough
rooftops.

If a more than decent scope at a more than decent price fails because
of negative criticism of an unseen product rather than because of real
performance issues, we all lose, not just BO.

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Martin Frey
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Bill Meyers wrote:

I agree with your implication that promising more than one is certain
one can deliver is a very risky strategy for a new small business. It
throws a shadow over subsequent products, as we have seen here.

But what about the proposition that not promising more than you are
certain is even more risky? It takes time to penetrate a market and
time (equals money) is just what small businesses almost never have.

BO's mistake was not the early announcement but, according to Tom,
insufficient testing of the lenses. TMB's involvement in assessing the
lenses seems to be a strong indicator that that mistake has been
learned from and is not being repeated.

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Martin Frey
http://www.hadastro.org.uk
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"CLT" not@thisaddress wrote in message ...
"Jon Isaacs" wrote in message

At this point it is not clear whether I am the
only one who had enough experience to tell that my optics were poor or
that
mine was one of the worst...

Hi Jon,

Do we get to vote on the probabilities? After seeing all the reports like
"My 6" f/6 achro doesn't have any false color so I must have got one of the
really good ones," I'm voting on you.

;-)

Chuck Taylor
Do you observe the moon?
Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/

Are you interested in optics?
Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ATM_Optics_Software/

Chuck,
I'm convinced that these reported color-free fast achromats were made in
Synta's special division of experimental optics - Stupendousview ;-)
I'm sure the 6" f/6 achro is APO-like ie. APieceOf.. *g*

Mario.

Chuck,
I'm convinced that these reported color-free fast achromats were made in
Synta's special division of experimental optics - Stupendousview ;-)
I'm sure the 6" f/6 achro is APO-like ie. APieceOf.. *g*

Believing is seeing.

;-)

Chuck Taylor
Do you observe the moon?
Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lunar-observing/

Are you interested in optics?
Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ATM_Optics_Software/

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Mario.