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Old August 27th 04, 03:18 PM
Sander Vesik
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In sci.space.policy John Savard wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:14:30 -0700, "Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' )"
wrote, in part:

In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers
have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar system, a
world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star much like the
Sun.


It should have been a carbon star, with anomalous neutrino emissions.

Then, after the planet is destroyed in a titanic explosion, one of its
former inhabitants might land here, and, after the passage of time,
obtain employment with a major metropolitan newspaper... an inhabitant
almost indistinguishable from Earth people, except that our Sun's
neutrino emissions augment the impressive strength gained from being
adapted to such high gravity with other abilities.


yeah, you never know when theres truth in comics ;-)


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Old August 26th 04, 11:22 PM
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:14:30 -0700, Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' ) wrote:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...th_040825.html

#begin quote
In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers
have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar system, a
world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star much like the
Sun.

It could be a rocky planet with a thin atmosphere, a sort of "super
Earth," the researchers said today.

But this is no typical Earth. It completes its tight orbit in less than
10 days, compared to the 365 required for our year. Its daytime face
would be scorched.


Another worthless ball of rock.



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Old August 27th 04, 03:22 PM
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The newly discovered 14-Earth-mass world sounds more like the
remaining core of a "hot Jupiter" planet than a real terrestrial
world. It's about the right mass, and if it's main atmosphere has
been blown off (likely in that orbit), it makes sense that it is an
old gas giant on a death spiral. If, if, planets can death-spiral into
their stars - there's some debate in the exoplanet community on that.

Josh


Chuck Bridgeland wrote in message ...
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:14:30 -0700, Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' ) wrote:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...th_040825.html

#begin quote
In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers
have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar system, a
world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star much like the
Sun.

It could be a rocky planet with a thin atmosphere, a sort of "super
Earth," the researchers said today.

But this is no typical Earth. It completes its tight orbit in less than
10 days, compared to the 365 required for our year. Its daytime face
would be scorched.


Another worthless ball of rock.

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Old August 27th 04, 10:07 PM
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Josh Gigantino wrote:

The newly discovered 14-Earth-mass world sounds more like the
remaining core of a "hot Jupiter" planet than a real terrestrial
world. It's about the right mass, and if it's main atmosphere has
been blown off (likely in that orbit), it makes sense that it is an
old gas giant on a death spiral. If, if, planets can death-spiral into
their stars - there's some debate in the exoplanet community on that.

Perhaps it is tidally locked like the Moon.


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brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
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Old August 28th 04, 05:00 PM
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Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' ) wrote:
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...th_040825.html

#begin quote
In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers
have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar system, a
world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star much like the
Sun.

It could be a rocky planet with a thin atmosphere, a sort of "super
Earth," the researchers said today.


Maybe. It could also be a gas-giant remnant.


But this is no typical Earth. It completes its tight orbit in less than
10 days, compared to the 365 required for our year. Its daytime face
would be scorched.

The planet's surface conditions aren't known, said Portuguese researcher
Nuno Santos, who led the discovery. "However, we can expect it to be
quite hot, given the proximity to the star."

Hot as in around 1,160 degrees Fahrenheit (900 Kelvin), Santos told
SPACE.com.

Still, the discovery is a significant advance in technology: No planet
so small has ever been detected around a normal star.


Sure.


And the finding
reveals a solar system more similar to our own than anything found so
far.

Terrestrial in nature


Not. "Similar to our own" is not 14 Earth masses, a
900 K surface temperature, and unknown surface
conditions. Unless a 20 meter high cell-phone tower
could be counted as "similar" to a human being in
that it is 14 times taller and otherwise not similar
at all.
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Old August 31st 04, 12:19 AM
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"Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' )" wrote in
message :

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...th_040825.html

#begin quote
In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers
have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar system, a
world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star much like the
Sun.

It could be a rocky planet with a thin atmosphere, a sort of "super
Earth," the researchers said today.

But this is no typical Earth. It completes its tight orbit in less than
10 days, compared to the 365 required for our year. Its daytime face
would be scorched.

The planet's surface conditions aren't known, said Portuguese researcher
Nuno Santos, who led the discovery. "However, we can expect it to be
quite hot, given the proximity to the star."

Hot as in around 1,160 degrees Fahrenheit (900 Kelvin), Santos told
SPACE.com.


Sounds more like a super-Mercury or super-Venus.
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Old August 31st 04, 12:30 AM
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Mr. 4X from said %1
"Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' )" wrote in
message :

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...th_040825.html

#begin quote
In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers
have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar
system, a world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star
much like the Sun.

It could be a rocky planet with a thin atmosphere, a sort of "super
Earth," the researchers said today.

But this is no typical Earth. It completes its tight orbit in less
than 10 days, compared to the 365 required for our year. Its daytime
face would be scorched.

The planet's surface conditions aren't known, said Portuguese
researcher Nuno Santos, who led the discovery. "However, we can
expect it to be quite hot, given the proximity to the star."

Hot as in around 1,160 degrees Fahrenheit (900 Kelvin), Santos told
SPACE.com.


Sounds more like a super-Mercury or super-Venus.


or Albuquerque...
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Old August 31st 04, 12:19 AM
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"Bill Bonde ( ``Soli Deo Gloria'' )" wrote in
message :

http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...th_040825.html

#begin quote
In a discovery that has left one expert stunned, European astronomers
have found one of the smallest planets known outside our solar system, a
world about 14 times the mass of our own around a star much like the
Sun.

It could be a rocky planet with a thin atmosphere, a sort of "super
Earth," the researchers said today.

But this is no typical Earth. It completes its tight orbit in less than
10 days, compared to the 365 required for our year. Its daytime face
would be scorched.

The planet's surface conditions aren't known, said Portuguese researcher
Nuno Santos, who led the discovery. "However, we can expect it to be
quite hot, given the proximity to the star."

Hot as in around 1,160 degrees Fahrenheit (900 Kelvin), Santos told
SPACE.com.


That's more like a super-Mercury or super-Venus.
 




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