Opportunity, the second Mars Explorer Rover is on the surface andtransmitting!

Do you think you may be a little too hard on NASA? After all, the space
shuttle is not quite like the shuttle from NY to Boston. All of the space
shuttle flights are experimental and failures are expected.

Al


"Robert J. Kolker" wrote in message
news:_lIQb.117114$nt4.482280@attbi_s51...


John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

Do you think you may be a little too hard on NASA? After all, the space
shuttle is not quite like the shuttle from NY to Boston. All of the space
shuttle flights are experimental and failures are expected.

Al


"Robert J. Kolker" wrote in message
news:_lIQb.117114$nt4.482280@attbi_s51...


John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

Sam Wormley wrote in message ...
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:

John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

òó
`

Bob!!! Don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

You do know that Spirit and Opportunity are unmanned spacecraft? With your
rant about dangers to crews I wasn't quite sure you knew that.

I wonder if they said that about Christopher Columbus. He lied you know.
Never did bring back spices from India. What a waste of dollars that could
be better spent in Spain. (or was it Portugal?)

Sam Wormley wrote in message ...
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:

John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

òó
`

Bob!!! Don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

You do know that Spirit and Opportunity are unmanned spacecraft? With your
rant about dangers to crews I wasn't quite sure you knew that.

I wonder if they said that about Christopher Columbus. He lied you know.
Never did bring back spices from India. What a waste of dollars that could
be better spent in Spain. (or was it Portugal?)

Sam Wormley wrote in message ...
"Robert J. Kolker" wrote:

John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

NASA is an over the hill, corrupt decrepit organization whose management
constantly works in CYA mode. Their arrogance and stupidity has already
lead to the distriction of two vehicles with the death of the crews.
NASA does not rock. NASA sucks lemons.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.

Bob Kolker

òó
`

Bob!!! Don't hold back. Tell us how you REALLY feel.

You do know that Spirit and Opportunity are unmanned spacecraft? With your
rant about dangers to crews I wasn't quite sure you knew that.

I wonder if they said that about Christopher Columbus. He lied you know.
Never did bring back spices from India. What a waste of dollars that could
be better spent in Spain. (or was it Portugal?)

In article opr2bfoas5s5tvhu@news-server,
"Lawrence Sayre" wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:14:59 GMT, John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

Still rolling!

Seemed like it was rolling for a very long time.

But the answer seems to be that the lander was stopped on one of
the (not base) petals.

The main antenna was pointed roughly at earth, and there was also
a reflection off the ground also heading toward us.

As Mars rotated, we were, in effect, passing through multi-path
interferance, alternately strong then weak signal, which sounded like
very slow rolling or teetering on an edge.

Looks like Opportunity is down properly.

In article opr2bfoas5s5tvhu@news-server,
"Lawrence Sayre" wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:14:59 GMT, John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

Still rolling!

Seemed like it was rolling for a very long time.

But the answer seems to be that the lander was stopped on one of
the (not base) petals.

The main antenna was pointed roughly at earth, and there was also
a reflection off the ground also heading toward us.

As Mars rotated, we were, in effect, passing through multi-path
interferance, alternately strong then weak signal, which sounded like
very slow rolling or teetering on an edge.

Looks like Opportunity is down properly.

In article opr2bfoas5s5tvhu@news-server,
"Lawrence Sayre" wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 05:14:59 GMT, John D'Amico wrote:

Go baby...
NASA & JPL rocks.

Still rolling!

Seemed like it was rolling for a very long time.

But the answer seems to be that the lander was stopped on one of
the (not base) petals.

The main antenna was pointed roughly at earth, and there was also
a reflection off the ground also heading toward us.

As Mars rotated, we were, in effect, passing through multi-path
interferance, alternately strong then weak signal, which sounded like
very slow rolling or teetering on an edge.

Looks like Opportunity is down properly.

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.


Bob Kolker

As the saying goes, "For everything, there is a season"

You might be right, but its the wrong time, the wrong season.

Save it please.

jon

The management of NASA somehow manages to silence any engineers who have
misgivings about the safety of missions. If this were a just world, the
management of NASA would be indicted for criminal negligence.


Bob Kolker

As the saying goes, "For everything, there is a season"

You might be right, but its the wrong time, the wrong season.

Save it please.

jon